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    Afghan weddings: bigger, fatter and hard to tame

    Published: 24 May 2015 5:06 PM



    Young Afghan men dancing around a groom during wedding celebrations at a wedding hall in Kabul. With a burst of confetti, dancers clap and twirl around a garland-bedecked groom as Afghanistan's wedding season kicks into high gear, but lawmakers pushing for austerity are bent on taming out-of-control guest lists. - May 24, 2015.


    With a burst of confetti, dancers clap and twirl around a garland-bedecked groom as Afghanistan's wedding season kicks into high gear, but lawmakers pushing for austerity are bent on taming out-of-control guest lists.

    Kabul wedding halls with Las Vegas-style razzle dazzle are busy as Afghans rush to get hitched before next month's Ramadan fasting begins, in a colourful contrast to the Taliban era when musical revelry and dancing were banned.

    Hundreds of people – not counting the ubiquitous wedding crashers – typically attend celebrations in these halls segregated by gender, with a bulging guest list seen both as a social obligation and a totem of affluence.


    "In Afghanistan you invite the whole village, the whole tribe, everyone who ever invited you to their wedding – and they bring their own guests," Akbar Sabawoon said over the din of drumbeats in Qasr-e-Paris (Paris Palace), a neon-spangled hall with a huge replica of the Eiffel Tower in the forecourt.
    "If you invite 1,000 people, be ready to entertain 1,500," the cousin of the bride told AFP as a traditional Attan folk dance erupted behind him.

    But in a hugely contentious move lawmakers recently passed a bill aimed at taming Afghanistan's Wild West wedding culture, limiting the number of guests to 500 and capping the catering bill per head at 400 Afghanis ($7).

    The bill seeks to relieve the huge financial strain weddings pose on grooms, who usually pay for everything from the banquet feast to bride price, a kind of reverse dowry presented to the girl's family in the form of cash, goods or livestock.

    Thousands of dollars are typically splurged on weddings, a small fortune in a country wracked by poverty and war, driving families into massive debts and forcing young men to delay marriage, lawmakers say.

    But the bill, awaiting presidential approval, has sparked protest from wedding hall owners who worry the move could devastate their flourishing business -- a rare bright spot in a nose-diving economy as international aid fast evaporates after 13 years of war.

    "Narrow-minded MPs are picking on this issue to distract attention from real problems such as worsening security," said Hajji Ghulam Siddique, the owner of Uranus, one of the biggest of nearly three dozen wedding halls in Kabul.

    "Even the Taliban want to kill extravagance. What's the difference between us and the Taliban?"

    Lavish weddings, a post-Taliban phenomenon, are not only entertainment but also a source of momentary escapism from a wrenching conflict, adding a splash of colour in the lives of war-weary Afghans.

    Outside Kabul's glitzy wedding halls is a city that appears on the verge of a nervous breakdown, awash with snipers, checkpoints, and post traumatic stress disorder.

    Inside, over-the-top revelry offers a comforting illusion that the war is taking place in another realm.

    "As is the case with most Afghan laws, no one will obey this new legislation," said government employee Shoaib Khaksari as guests at Qasr-e-Paris hunched over platters of roast chicken, Kabuli lamb pilaf, fried eggplant, yogurt and fresh fruit.

    "Marriages need to be lavish as they are a one-time event. In conservative Afghanistan people don't commonly have extra-marital affairs."

    But many Afghans concede some merit in the legislation.

    When Khushal Nabizada, a 34-year-old doctor of internal medicine, got hitched three years ago he was forced to spend US$25,000 (RM89,000) on the wedding party, eroding his hard-earned savings in a single night.

    "I wanted smaller celebrations, fewer ceremonies but the bride's family were unforgiving," he said. "My wife and I now look back and think what an epic waste it was."

    Some budget-conscious Afghans have found a canny way of trim the guest list: mixed weddings – a relatively rare celebration in which guests are not segregated by gender.

    It's a self-imposed red line for many Afghans who voluntarily decline to attend, unwilling to expose their women to a crowd full of strangers.

    Marriage is often the only outlet for sexual frustration pervasive in a conservative nation where dating or any social commingling of the sexes can be misinterpreted as a sign of perversion.

    Nabizada said he routinely fields queries from his young unmarried male Afghan patients torn between their sexual cravings and their desire to be religious puritans.

    "Young, wife-less men grapple with hormonal rage," he said.

    "Marriage is their only salvation – and many cannot afford it."

    Back in Qasr-e-Paris, the seven-member orchestra perched at the edge of the ceiling-high wooden partition separating the men from the women launched into a folk melody announcing the arrival of the bride.

    "Walk slowly my shining moon," the lyrics slurred in Dari as a hush of anticipation descended on the groom's side.

    "Walk slowly like a flower in full bloom."

    The lyrical feast grew louder as the groom arrived, with beads of sweat rolling off his forehead.

    "He must be nervous about the wedding expenses," a guest snorted.

    "He should have waited until the wedding law," another said, provoking a loud ripple of titters.

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    So [MENTION=17802]mixxedpashtana[/MENTION] I guess this means that you won't be able to invite your planned 10,000 wedding guests when you find your pure ideal Paktiwal man....what a shame! *sigh*
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    • #3
      all these fancy weddings are paid for with money earned by selling their dignity. Most of these rich people who spend all this money work for kafirs as servants facilitating their occupation of Afghanistan.

      It's haram money, spent on haram wedding. Besides, they buy their brides, which is basically prostitution.

      Sadly this has become the norm in Afghanistan. This why it is appropriate to say Afghanistan has now a culture of pimps & prostitutes.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        all these fancy weddings are paid for with money earned by selling their dignity. Most of these rich people who spend all this money work for kafirs as servants facilitating their occupation of Afghanistan.

        It's haram money, spent on haram wedding. Besides, they buy their brides, which is basically prostitution.

        Sadly this has become the norm in Afghanistan. This why it is appropriate to say Afghanistan has now a culture of pimps & prostitutes.
        This is far from the truth, how do you know these men sold their dignity for fancy weddings? and work for kaffirs? You live in Europe, living in a kaffir country and breathing the kaffir's air, does that make you any better?

        Fail to see how its haram, i don't see them throwing any bachelor parties like they do in murica.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
          This is far from the truth, how do you know these men sold their dignity for fancy weddings? and work for kaffirs? You live in Europe, living in a kaffir country and breathing the kaffir's air, does that make you any better?

          Fail to see how its haram, i don't see them throwing any bachelor parties like they do in murica.
          It's always convenient to deny reality.

          Sure, the poorest country in Asia has loads and loads of honest millionaires who earn halal money while millions are starving. No money is paid to "buy" desired fair skinned women. No money is wasted on lavish weddings where food is wasted. No singers are paid to sing lewd songs and nobody dances like satanists. It's all lies. This all fabricated.

          And yes, there is such a thing as kafir air which can only be inhaled by kafirs and there is no way to earn halal money in kafir countries.
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
            This is far from the truth, how do you know these men sold their dignity for fancy weddings? and work for kaffirs? You live in Europe, living in a kaffir country and breathing the kaffir's air, does that make you any better?

            Fail to see how its haram, i don't see them throwing any bachelor parties like they do in murica.
            This is a thread about weddings.....



            Then suddenly Khurasani starts talking about Kaffirs and occupation...


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            • #7
              spending like this is very common among the elite of muslim world, go to saudi arabia, Dubai pakistan etc.. you will see it. Whoever becomes rich, they start showing off like this. Westerners also spend, but they spend with in limits. With us the problem is we have to show off all time, how much money we have etc... in reality most so called muslims are not following Islam at all. Look at Prophet Muhammad and his modesty in everything, where is that modesty today in 99% of muslims?

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              • #8
                just look how many women are killed by their husband family and the husband themselves in afghanistan!

                such big wedding it's not only money wasting while people in afg have got nothing to eat

                in old days such big weddings had a meaning in villages to keep society structures nowadays it's just waste

                it doesnt matter how much money oyu spend on the wedding people will always gossip

                and if the groom is in need who will help him? one of the guest from wedding?
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                • #9
                  Total waste, but afghans in europe are no better, I have never seen a small intimate Afghan wedding, its always 500-1000 guests and everything over the top.... -_-

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    Total waste, but afghans in europe are no better, I have never seen a small intimate Afghan wedding, its always 500-1000 guests and everything over the top.... -_-
                    so khostai if you marry one day and refuse to make a big wedding but the bride family demand it, what are you going to do?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                      so khostai if you marry one day and refuse to make a big wedding but the bride family demand it, what are you going to do?
                      The thing is, is that my parents also would like to have a big wedding, becuase it would be emberassing for them if they did a small one with less guestss. In most cases the bride and the groom doesn't have that much a say in this matter.

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                      • #12
                        This is common in Pakistan too, I think it's an Asian thing
                        "I bow to no one, except ALLAH. I dont bow to punjabay, do not bow to kabulay and afghanay, do not bow to faujay and mullay, do not bow to asfandyarwalay and petty khanays...i am traitor to all of them." - Smartay

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                          The thing is, is that my parents also would like to have a big wedding, becuase it would be emberassing for them if they did a small one with less guestss. In most cases the bride and the groom doesn't have that much a say in this matter.
                          such kind of pressure sucks
                          also you have a big pressure that the marriage have to work out
                          but in my opinion that is one of the reasons why the marriage dont work out later
                          but what if you say small wedding but the money will be spend on poor people? it's actually more islamic than such big wedding
                          and if you are allowed to marry non-pashtun or non-muslim, must the wedding be also big?

                          at turkish weddings it's filmed how and how much money do you give to the wedding couple

                          one of my family members on the wedding of her daughter said: money only in envelope. later they count the money and announced the entire sum. almost all costs of the wedding were covered
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ImAjEw View Post
                            such kind of pressure sucks
                            also you have a big pressure that the marriage have to work out
                            but in my opinion that is one of the reasons why the marriage dont work out later
                            but what if you say small wedding but the money will be spend on poor people? it's actually more islamic than such big wedding
                            and if you are allowed to marry non-pashtun or non-muslim, must the wedding be also big?

                            at turkish weddings it's filmed how and how much money do you give to the wedding couple

                            one of my family members on the wedding of her daughter said: money only in envelope. later they count the money and announced the entire sum. almost all costs of the wedding were covered
                            In Europe they also give monye in envelope, well atleast pashtun do give money, farsiban are stingy and will just give flowers or nothing....I have seen in most of the time...

                            But its never enough to cover the cost of the weding, but to be honest Turkish weding are quite boring, the food is not really good, its oke, but not what you would serve at a weding. And also more smaller than that of Afghans.
                            Look for Afghan a weding is a thing to make the bonds between friends and diffrent relatives stronger, so we are kind of obligated to invate all the people, not invating some can hurt their feelings and later on you will also be not invited to their weding....And people will also gossip about it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                              In Europe they also give monye in envelope, well atleast pashtun do give money, farsiban are stingy and will just give flowers or nothing....I have seen in most of the time...

                              But its never enough to cover the cost of the weding, but to be honest Turkish weding are quite boring, the food is not really good, its oke, but not what you would serve at a weding. And also more smaller than that of Afghans.
                              Look for Afghan a weding is a thing to make the bonds between friends and diffrent relatives stronger, so we are kind of obligated to invate all the people, not invating some can hurt their feelings and later on you will also be not invited to their weding....And people will also gossip about it.
                              marry a kafir :P

                              yes i understand you
                              but to make bonds stronger nowadays? are you seriously? be honest they are the first one who will leave you alone. we have now other values and society structures. it s also backward like all the mullah-muslims

                              so zma grana khostaia dont just raise your voice on pf, do in reality too!

                              people will always gossip doesnt matter what you are doing!
                              and gossip is not allowed in islam!
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