50 Pakistani families move to Afghanistan

[Admin Khan]

50 Pakistani families migrate to Paktia


When we said we will always welcome our brothers, we meant it.


Fifty Pakistani families have migrated to the Zazai Aryub district of southeastern Paktia province due to sectarian violence in the Kurram tribal region of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, an official said on Tuesday.
Over the past three days, the Pakistani families crossed from the Parachinar area into the Afghan town, the district chief, Azad Khan, told Pajhwok Afghan NewsThe migrating people managed to bring with them some of their livestock.Zazai Aryub is a mountainous and cold district of Paktia, where the winter snowfall has already begun.Clashes etween Sunni and Shia sects often take place in Parachinar, forcing scores families from their homes and resulting in deaths and injuries.Zazai Aryub is a mountainous and cold district of Paktia, where the winter snowfall has already begun.

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The locals had offered accommodation to some of the families in their own houses but most of them were still living under the open sky, Khan added.
We apologize but if we had a functioning stable government, I promise that we would have done everything we could do protect our Pashtun brothers.



He complained neither the government nor donor agencies had so far helped the families, comprising children, women and elderly people. Men and youth remained in their areas to protect their houses.
What he has requested, the Govt cant even provide to its current 30 million citizens. However, as you can see, many of the locals[out of love]even offered them to to say within their own houses. That shows that the love and connection exists. It even states in the article that the offer was made. Have in mind, this is a really poor area. Pashtuns are all one people. They should never feel like they have to a foreign country. Afghanistan is the land to all Pashtuns.


A resident of the district, Dina Gul Shafiqi said some families had no shelter.
I hope the Afghan government assists them.
Nonetheless, its evident that the Pashtuns of Paktia are trying very hard with their limited resources and weak economy to give our brothers a safe experience. We just want our brothers across the border to know that you are not refugees in Afghanistan. This is your land. We will sleep outside just to make sure you guys are comfortable at night.


My response is the italic font.

[Talal]

The locals had offered accommodation to some of the families in their own houses but most of them were still living under the open sky, Khan added.

He complained neither the government nor donor agencies had so far helped the families, comprising children, women and elderly people. Men and youth remained in their areas to protect their houses.


A resident of the district, Dina Gul Shafiqi said some families had no shelter. The migrating people managed to bring with them some of their livestock.


Zazai Aryub is a mountainous and cold district of Paktia, where the winter snowfall has already begun.


Clashes between Sunni and Shia sects often take place in Parachinar, forcing scores families from their homes and resulting in deaths and injuries.






Quick Question Admin Khan: Im just curious as to why you skipped the part in the middle where it says that no government agencies helped them and except for a few families getting shelter other were out in the open sky ?


It is appreciated nonetheless

[Admin Khan]

Dear Talal,

If you could have pressed the F5 button on your browser or perhaps if you could've waited a few minutes, you would have realized I responded to those bold parts in particular with my italic font. Take another look. I was responding to the article, that is why you did not see it at that given time. Afghanistan is no where near stable as our counterparts but we want our people in Pakistan to know that they will never be considered "Mahajir" in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is equally their land as well.

[Talal]

Which tribe is moving into this area? Is it the Turi or Bangash? Also, you would think that people would be migrating from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Talal, looks like Pakistan is not doing a good job protecting the civilians there. Now I understand the reason Pashtuns in Pakistan want a Pashtunistan.

This story should have been the other way around due to the instability in Afghanistan. Shame on Pakistan!!!

Actually these people pretty much live on the border and while it is an absolute shame that these people had to go to a foreign country, it is unavoidable considering the demographics of the area and how far our resources are stretched..but yes shame indeed on Pakistan, i never intended to take pride in this at all


@ Admin Khan, no harm done i was just wondering..the thread had been up for a while before i saw your comments..and i would have thought that normally you would have made all the changes and remarks before posting the thread..it is appreciated nonetheless, but to me it is a matter of shame that these people had to cross border to pursue livelihood

[Admin Khan]

Talal,
The thread was only up for several minutes, In which the mean time I posted a few more topics. However, back on topic, Its not a matter of shame at all. They are our people and we will always accept them as our people. There is no shame factor involved at all. Like I explicitly stated, Afghanistan will never consider them as refugees. They have just walked a few miles to come to the other side of their land. Peshawar, Sawabai, Swat, Malakand, etc. These are all our people and they are all welcomed. Like I said, Afghans will sleep outside just to see the guest sleep warm and cozy at night. That is the hospitality that we Afghans are famous for.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Would you guys consider this more of an internal migration or external migration?

[Admin Khan]

Would you guys consider this more of an internal migration or external migration?

This is just like moving from Melbourne to Sydney.

Its our people, Its their land.

[afghan]

Would you guys consider this more of an internal migration or external migration?

i personally consider it internal migration, these people migrated to the region which is considered as their motherland. i am sure these people will never be welcomes in pakistan.

[AnGaaR]

Hope the people around will help them
Inshallah Afghans will for sure give them shelter...

[tor_khan]

Actually these people pretty much live on the border and while it is an absolute shame that these people had to go to a foreign country, it is unavoidable considering the demographics of the area and how far our resources are stretched..but yes shame indeed on Pakistan, i never intended to take pride in this at all


@ Admin Khan, no harm done i was just wondering..the thread had been up for a while before i saw your comments..and i would have thought that normally you would have made all the changes and remarks before posting the thread..it is appreciated nonetheless, but to me it is a matter of shame that these people had to cross border to pursue livelihood

You see Talal Jan, this is where we part company in terms of our thinking. You use the word "foreign country". For me there is nothing foreign about it.

I was reading this on Pajhwok News this morning Admin Khana, and wondered if it had been posted before since it was a September news item?

Still it's good to share and it shows that Pashtoons do, and have been moving for many years. We should openly embrace one another and understand that these moves occur because situations become difficult.

The shame here Talal is the turmoil within the Pashtoon belt that makes life difficult for people that they are compelled to leave their homes.

[Son of Mountains]

But....if pakistan opens its border....still 5000 families will wish to shift in pakistan from aka afghanistan. Oh yes there already have shifted thousands....now shame on afghanistan...tit for tat

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

When Pashtuns on both sides of the Durrand show unity and brotherhood and support each other, the eyes of non-Pashtuns living besides them and their Pathan lackeys flare up with the fires of jealousy. They just can't stand it.

All efforts aimed at solidifying our unity, whether they are small programs or the 'relocation' of a few families, are important steps towards a greater common goal.

[afghan]

When Pashtuns on both sides of the Durrand show unity and brotherhood and support each other, the eyes of non-Pashtuns living besides them and their Pathan lackeys flare up with the fires of jealousy. They just can't stand it.

All efforts aimed at solidifying our unity, whether they are small programs or the 'relocation' of a few families, are important steps towards a greater common goal.

very true but there will be some mulla who will voice against the unity by suppot with hadis and ayat.

[Master Khan]

When Pashtuns on both sides of the Durrand show unity and brotherhood and support each other, the eyes of non-Pashtuns living besides them and their Pathan lackeys flare up with the fires of jealousy. They just can't stand it.

All efforts aimed at solidifying our unity, whether they are small programs or the 'relocation' of a few families, are important steps towards a greater common goal.

Yeah Pakistanis and Pathans don't want pashtuns on both side of the durand line to unite, its a liability for them.

[afghan]

I see a lot of positive developments out of this. Hopefully this will happen more often. Now I understand why Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa want a separate state, but they need to cement their hold on the land. Obviously, Admin Khan is right, and Afghanistan is their home, but we need as much land as we can get for a future state.

There ought to be more interaction at the border, so in the future there is a network of support in case things get out of hand.

After doing my research on this for the last three weeks, I firmly feel that it is time that Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa should start working towards a Pashtunistan. You come to this decision when you realize that the government that is supposed to protect you is not. the most important thing for Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa is to have a solid security system, and gain control of the local army units. Meaning, Pashtun youth should intend to join the Army in that region. Once they have filled the ranks, then they can separate from the Pakistani Army. This has to be done, and you need to forget about how it may appear on the outside. There needs to be a security force of Pashtuns serving Pashtuns. So control of the local army headquarters is a must (this is a 10-20 year plan that would ideally start as soon as possible). Again, I emphasize, control of the army in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa can only be done when 95% of the force is made up of Pashtuns. This army would then separate from the main army at whatever costs necessary once a declaration of independence has been made.

This may sound crazy right now, but it is the only way forward.

I know that khyaal will disagree, but there is a strong element within the ISI that is very sympathetic to the Pashtuns, however, for the wrong reasons (due to Taliban ideology-the ISI is pro-Taliban). We need all the support we can get for now, and we can not be picky. On the other hand, the Pakistani Army and government serve only Pakistan's interest which is really the interest of only a few individuals who seek to make their pockets big, and not to fill their peoples stomachs. These so-called interests are not the typical national interests that other nations have, but selfish individualistic interests.

The only way forward for the Pashtuns of Pakhtunkhwa is a separate independent state completely free from Pakistan. Unification with Afghanistan can be done later after agreements have been made between parties of different opinions.

Anyways, just letting everyone know that I am becoming more familiar with Pashto, and in the future will only make my posts in pashto/pakhto.

i dont want to go into a discussion which has already been discussed. in this critical moments we should not bring the unrelated issues. afghanistan is a home of all afghans. every pashtun must be wellcomed in all times whether in war or a time of peace.