Pakistani army video of killings is a fake!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Look talal and angeleyes...you can throw around a lot of hypotheticals...however as of now this is a group of Pakistani troops who have shot up 14 year olds via firing squad. This is actually the least of the things wrong going on in swat..human rights organizations have even stated that there are mass graves. What makes you all think Pak army isn't capable of this? They have a history of doing target killings in baloch areas and bangladesh.

[AnGaaR]

^ Real shoot or fake shoot?

like those soldiers who shot .. which category you count it in?

[Talal]

two separate things here BLS, what I'm asking for is a proof that this video is authentic and really there is nothing here that can pin it to the Army..And again I'm not the one to pursue mindless propaganda and therefore I agree that Army has gotten it's hands dirty but I also accept that fact as a part of why they do..Why ? Because the enemy they're up against has done far worse deeds..and this is a war and this is why happens in war but this particular video has no shred of authenticity ..that is if we're going by "not guilty unless proven guilty"

[BLS_1919v2.0]

two separate things here BLS, what I'm asking for is a proof that this video is authentic and really there is nothing here that can pin it to the Army..And again I'm not the one to pursue mindless propaganda and therefore I agree that Army has gotten it's hands dirty but I also accept that fact as a part of why they do..Why ? Because the enemy they're up against has done far worse deeds..and this is a war and this is why happens in war but this particular video has no shred of authenticity ..that is if we're going by "not guilty unless proven guilty"

Uhmm talal its the other way around. You have to prove that isn't the army.

[Talal]

Aú contrairé you guys presented the argument but that's it, there's is no evidence to convict them your moderateness

[Admin Khan]

I am not so full to think Pakistani does no wrong ever but so does Afghani government. If you think your government and country any better than Pakistan you have mental issues because both have problems! You love your country despite its faults and I love mine so quite saying bad things without proofs please!

Dear Angel Eyes, welcome aboard.

What does the Afghan Government have to do with this thread? If you are going to offer us scholarly comments on Afghan affairs, it would be advisable to at least learn the difference between Afghan and Afghani. Just because a country is criticized doesn't mean it’s necessarily hated - It’s called constructive analysis. As Pashtuns, we have a genuine concern when we see our people being tortured. You have to expect all sorts of opinions being floated around, its normal and its rational, Isn’t it? As a Forum we discuss and attempt to reach a conclusion primarily based on our logic. One can’t just refute our think tanks by posting a video. There is a lot of effort put behind the post’s you read at times. Take a look at that Levanaye Zalmaye post, He took time to write that, appreciate it for what it’s worth. It might have hit a nerve or two but it’s his opinion and you might not like it but you must respect his every right to say what he has on his mind. We Pashtuns are quite frankly fed up with many institutions because we have witnessed the torture in real life, I have witnessed Pashtuns being abused in Karachi. As per the topic, I will keep my political stance to myself. We embrace you with open arms brother but we would appreciate if you refrain from such unsubstantiated assumptions.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Aú contrairé you guys presented the argument but that's it, there's is no evidence to convict them your moderateness

The video shows pakistani army shooting at a bunch of kids. Now unless you an prove otherwise the fact still stands. No one is presenting any argument, there is a video with Pakistani soldiers shooting at kids. Now if you have added info that it is doctored, or these are not Pakistani soldiers by all means bring it forward.

[Fahd]

Very good point! I'm happy a few here have some sense This forum is so anti-Pakistan that members and moderators here never miss a chance to defame it. I am not so full to think Pakistani does no wrong ever but so does Afghani government. If you think your government and country any better than Pakistan you have mental issues because both have problems! You love your country despite its faults and I love mine so quite saying bad things without proofs please!

i can told u pakistan the worst country in this earth for afghans
thats not mean there are no good ppl
there are some good ppl but alot of bad

the video not fake it showing what those dirty ppl did and do

if u pashtun u belong to afg not pakistan if u saying u r pakistani
i can scream and say
this is madness
i born in ksa and talk arabic and i can't talk pashtu good
and i never see afghanistan until this day
that's not mean im arab
im afghan still afghan even if i lived all ma life in other country

but u live in afghan land and we will get back our lands

[Talal]

The video shows pakistani army shooting at a bunch of kids. Now unless you an prove otherwise the fact still stands. No one is presenting any argument, there is a video with Pakistani soldiers shooting at kids. Now if you have added info that it is doctored, or these are not Pakistani soldiers by all means bring it forward.

Correction this video shows some people dressed in the army attire and shooting some people..Where in the video does it show that they "are" Pakistani Army ? And if you have identified them then you should be able to provide the bare minimum amount of info required to identify these individuals since you can't do that you can't just say that these are Pakistani troops..Prove that they are Pakistani troops, unless you don't do that they aren't guilty..There is no evidence in the video that points to the Army


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[Master Khan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3915235.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8285564.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10667545

these are not fake.

[Talal]

Master first story actually was false and I never argued against te extra judicial killings but the fact remains that all these reports were 'alleged', nothing was ever proven ..But again I am specifically contending the authenticity of this video and same goes for that other one. It was never proven to be true or false and that was after the army carried out an investigation

[Son of Mountains]

This Video is fake aswell, Where is the Money that was for Swat??
Pakistan is FAKE!!!

U by urself are fake mr Master Khan....i know u since C.K
U are man of the straw

[Son of Mountains]

If gay marriage news comes about afghan mohajir, its definitely fake
if gay marriage news was for pakistanis, welcome always without references

anything anti pakistan is welcomed without references
anything supporting pakistan is fake

u all are representatives of hell, in fact.

I have changed my aims now.....i ll spread and preach something which i am getting from u people....remember everyone who is anti pakistan!

[Son of Mountains]

^^I am not afraid Aseer n Tor...........if u people will ban me, i promise, i ll never visit this place

but remember, i ll not leave my aim

give love, get love
give hate, get hate

i have seen hate for pakistan since last many years 1st at CK then at PF
now my heart cannot bear more....i ll die

[Son of Mountains]

^ i am tired now...zaka.
My blood pressure shoots up now