Pakistani army video of killings is a fake!

[AngelEyes]

It is shameful how people will believe anything without proofs! This video is a fake and made by the Taliban or by RAW . Can you people no recognize propagandas when you see it? Just like that fake swat beating video a few people using social media have claimed to have an "authentic" video but just as that was proved a fake inshallah so will this video be proven fake two!

YouTube - Re: Pakistan Army killing innocent children in Swat

[Shehbaz Khan]

When a specific region is in the state of war things that you mentioned does happen there .. But that doesn't mean that the entire Army is corrupt..!!

Pak Army is highly Immoral - Same logic just as you said We are not supposed to believe it everyone is having their own opinion here and yes may be you experience with Army is not good
P.S= I am not saying that the other video is fake or not only God knows about it but yes this video is cent percent true and yeah moreover Pak Army was in an operation against the millitants in Swat so may be those Pakhtuns (beaten by Pak Army) were involved in any sort of relations with those millitants .. God Knows The Best!!1

They situation of Karachi is entirely different khorai .. Both the political parties MQM and ANP are killing each other on the lower level and on the upper level the leadership of both the parties are enjoying .. The difference is that MQM some how look after their people on the other hand ANP doesn't even care if someone is killed or not ..
Moreover, the worst from Karachi is yet to come when their will be elections !!

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

This video is not only just authentic but it also correlates with reports in international news papers. Two things are important to know here - this video is a year old and it has been leaked/uploaded by someone recently.



Pakistan Army Said to Be Linked to Swat Killings


By JANE PERLEZ and PIR ZUBAIR SHAH
Published: September 14, 2009

MINGORA, Pakistan — Two months after the Pakistani Army wrested control of the Swat Valley from Taliban militants, a new campaign of fear has taken hold, with scores, perhaps hundreds, of bodies dumped on the streets in what human rights advocates and local residents say is the work of the military....

The Human Rights Commission, a nongovernmental organization, disputed that all the victims had been killed by civilians, saying last month that there were credible reports of retaliatory killings by the military. It said that witnesses had seen mass graves and that in some cases, the bodies appeared to be those of militants....

The family of the man, Akhtar Ali, 28, said he was arrested at his electrical shop in Mingora in the early evening of Sept. 1 by a group of soldiers. Four days later, Mr. Ali’s body was returned to the family home “tortured to death,” a petition signed by his mother, Jehan Sultana, said....

According to the family’s account, family members went to army headquarters in Mingora the day after his arrest. “We were assured he would be released,” the petition said. A day or two later they were told he would be home the next day.

Instead, at 6 a.m. on Sept. 5, security forces dropped his body on the doorstep, the statement said. “There was no place on his body not tortured,” the petition said. Nails were “hammered into his body, and cigarettes burned into the skin.”

The petition said Mr. Ali had no relationship with the Taliban.

For the complete report, click here .


AngelEyes, do you think the sentiments of two ladies at a state-organized function mean that a video clearly showing Pakistani soldiers shooting to death restrained and blindfolded prisoners (and conforming their kills) is somehow fake?

AngelEyes, who are you? Did you think that because this is a Pashtun forum, you'll find mindless idiots here? Show some respect please. We are dignified and intelligent people. If you wish to sway us to your beliefs, at least provide us with evidence and a credible case. We are not children.

When a specific region is in the state of war things that you mentioned does happen there .. But that doesn't mean that the entire Army is corrupt..!!

Pak Army is highly Immoral - Same logic just as you said We are not supposed to believe it everyone is having their own opinion here and yes may be you experience with Army is not good
P.S= I am not saying that the other video is fake or not only God knows about it but yes this video is cent percent true and yeah moreover Pak Army was in an operation against the millitants in Swat so may be those Pakhtuns (beaten by Pak Army) were involved in any sort of relations with those millitants .. God Knows The Best!!1

They situation of Karachi is entirely different khorai .. Both the political parties MQM and ANP are killing each other on the lower level and on the upper level the leadership of both the parties are enjoying .. The difference is that MQM some how look after their people on the other hand ANP doesn't even care if someone is killed or not ..
Moreover, the worst from Karachi is yet to come when their will be elections !!

Was that a disguised apology for your army's war-crimes or an attempt at some sort of silent approval? In either case, further clarity would be appreciated.

"God knows the best". This isn't a theological discourse where when an obvious dead-end is reached, this phrase is invoked. We are dealing with hard facts here.

Lastly, MQM kills Pashtun laborers, ricksha-drivers and fruit-vendors. If ANP starts killing Mohajir civilians, it can kill a hundred every hour. But it doesn't respond in kind. MQM helps its people? It collects extortion money from even the poorest of Mohajirs! In fact, Altaf and his cronies have killed just as many Mohajirs as your army has killed Pashtuns. Please correct me if my last statement was factually incorrect.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Hehe, where are in Karachi are you from .. ? Do you know 18 innocent Muhajirs were killed by ANP right on the day when Raza Hayder was killed.. ? Now what on 12th May Was ANP gun-less? I am not saying that MQM is not the killer of innocent people Infact they are the worst and the badest .. but yet you have to agree that they take care of their own men.. On the other hand ANP is as cruel as MQM but not as strong as MQM I am the first one to say that MQM is a terrorist organization but at the same time I'll blame ANP for killing Muhajirs ..

[tor_khan]

It is shameful how people will believe anything without proofs! This video is a fake and made by the Taliban or by RAW . Can you people no recognize propagandas when you see it? Just like that fake swat beating video a few people using social media have claimed to have an "authentic" video but just as that was proved a fake inshallah so will this video be proven fake two!

YouTube - Re: Pakistan Army killing innocent children in Swat

Serendipity, I say. On my way back from Dubai this afternoon, I was playing Abba in my car and one of my favourite mushy songs is curiously, entitled Angel Eyes. Sometimes when I'm in the mood, it's one of those I often play over a couple of times before letting the CD move on. Today must have been such a day.

Let me share the bridge from the song (bold effects and call-out notes my own additions):

Look into his angel eyes*
one look and you're hypnotized*
he'll take your heart
and you must pay the price**
look into his angel eyes
you'll think you're in paradise***
and one day you'll find out
he wears a disguise**
don't look too deep
into those angel eyes
oh no no no no

* Seeing is deceiving
** Many people's assessment of the Pakistan army
*** Kind of sums up the propaganda content of the video there as well ...

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Lolzz everything is fake...baloch nationalism fake. Pashtun fake....it is all RAW MOSSAD flaana flaana lolz. Please give it a rest. This is actually nothing compared to the mass graves found in Swat or the tens of people that die from the army operation per week (or rather day, who knows no one can even go there to corroborate the Army's figures). You guys are very hypocritical, you will take the minutest of videos of IDF or Indian army committing crimes and make it the gospel truth, but will never do the same if it is Pakistani army.

[Son of Mountains]

It is shameful how people will believe anything without proofs! This video is a fake and made by the Taliban or by RAW . Can you people no recognize propagandas when you see it? Just like that fake swat beating video a few people using social media have claimed to have an "authentic" video but just as that was proved a fake inshallah so will this video be proven fake two!

No No No....people will not let u say words like this

People here want to use these type of videos to brainwash other innocent public....to get their separate country for farsibaans called Loy Afghanistan

U ll be considered a persona nona grata (a disliked person) like me and some others are....by the whole members of this forum

[BLS_1919v2.0]

no one dislikes you SOM....where did you get this from? Plus, does this person have proof its fake?

[Master Khan]

This Video is fake aswell, Where is the Money that was for Swat??
Pakistan is FAKE!!!

[Master Khan]

the person that uploaded this video is a P*** coward who disable comments on his videos and has Comment Pending Approval on..Punjabi Coward.

[tor_khan]

No No No....people will not let u say words like this

People here want to use these type of videos to brainwash other innocent public....to get their separate country for farsibaans called Loy Afghanistan

U ll be considered a persona nona grata (a disliked person) like me and some others are....by the whole members of this forum

You are not disliked Son Of Mountains.

You'll win many more arguments by not being so alarmist. No one should be in denial - the Pakistan Army, like many other armies, is trained to kill.

They kill people. They are paid to do it. It's their job. Some sickos amongst them will kill for pleasure. You get that sort in armies, I'm afraid. And sometimes this kind of activity is sanctioned from above.

BTW -what have Farsibaans got to do with this?

[Mayana]

So a buncha fake people from fake places tryna show fake people how fake they are using fake footage to refute fake material.

It's beautiful.

[Khan Gul]

the person that uploaded this video is a paki coward who disable comments on his videos and has Comment Pending Approval on..Punjabi Coward.

On the contrary, the person who leaked or uploaded this video needs all our respect for showing the world army has no boundaries or limits when it pertains atrocities, lawlessness and anarchic behavior.

[Shehbaz Khan]

This video was shown by many many Television Channels in Pakistan so it is not supposed to be fake and the other one yes I am not sayng that's fake you need to think over it ..

Like you are fighting against me I and my men are constantly killing you and finally you get a bunch of people who are connected to me what will you do with them you won't surely offer them a bed of roses .. No you will interrogate them you will beat them and above all you can even kill them .. This is how it goes when you are in a state of War my dear


And yeah as someone commented if the money that comes for Swat is disappeared and thats enough to make Pakistan a failed state than what's your opinion about Afghanistan>?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

This video was shown by many many Television Channels in Pakistan so it is not supposed to be fake and the other one yes I am not sayng that's fake you need to think over it ..

Like you are fighting against me I and my men are constantly killing you and finally you get a bunch of people who are connected to me what will you do with them you won't surely offer them a bed of roses .. No you will interrogate them you will beat them and above all you can even kill them .. This is how it goes when you are in a state of War my dear


And yeah as someone commented if the money that comes for Swat is disappeared and thats enough to make Pakistan a failed state than what's your opinion about Afghanistan>?

Shehbaz then America, UK, Israel can all use the same excuse that they are in a state of war and torture and firing squads are excusable..will you accept it? Armies are not there to arbitrate punishment or act as the judge jury executioner..that is why you have a civilian government.