Erdogan says New Zealand attack shows growing hostility to Islam

[Insight]

https://www.france24.com/en/20190315-erdogan-says-new-zealand-attack-shows-growing-hostility-islam

Erdogan says New Zealand attack shows growing hostility to Islam
Latest update : 15/03/2019


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan strongly condemned the New Zealand attack, saying it illustrated growing hostility to Islam

Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Friday condemned the deadly attack on two mosques in New Zealand, saying it illustrated the growing hostility towards Islam "idly" watched by the world.

The attacks on the Christchurch mosques left at least 49 dead, with one gunman ?- identified as an Australian extremist -- apparently livestreaming the assault and publishing a manifesto online.

"With this attack, hostility towards Islam, that the world has been idly watching and even encouraging for some time, has gone beyond individual harassment to reach the level of mass killing," Erdogan said at the funeral of a former Turkish minister.

Turkish media reported the manifesto contained specific references to Turkey and ridding the famed Hagia Sophia in Istanbul of its minarets. Now a museum, the building was once a church before being turned into a mosque during the Ottoman empire.

"It is clear that the understanding represented by the killer that also targets our country, our people and myself, has started to take over Western societies like a cancer."

The Turkish leader, who often criticises Islamophobic attitudes, called for the West to act to prevent similar attacks.

"If measures are not taken right away, news of other disasters will follow this one... I am calling on the world, in particular the West, to take quick measures," he said.

He had earlier condemned the attack on Tweeter: "May Allah have mercy on the victims and grant a speedy recovery to the wounded."

His spokesman Ibrahim Kalin called it a "fascist" attack that "shows how anti-Muslim rhetoric and hatred leads to murderous acts. The world must break its silence over Islamophobic hatred".

[Insight]

"With this attack, hostility towards Islam, that the world has been idly watching and even encouraging for some time, has gone beyond individual harassment to reach the level of mass killing," Erdogan said at the funeral of a former Turkish minister.

"It is clear that the understanding represented by the killer that also targets our country, our people and myself, has started to take over Western societies like a cancer."

[randolph85]

Erdogan has in the past used Muslim immigrants as a bargaining chip against Europe for political purposes like these people are not humans let alone Muslims. Knowing full well that they will not be “integrated” and may cause troubles and face repructions. I used to be a fan of his, not so much these days.

[Akbar]

Erdogan has in the past used Muslim immigrants as a bargaining chip against Europe for political purposes like these people are not humans let alone Muslims. Knowing full well that they will not be “integrated” and may cause troubles and face repructions. I used to be a fan of his, not so much these days.

Thats totally inacurate and uncalled for.
Im not sure if you ever been to europe but your portrayel of europe is very off.

[Firdousi]

As the power and wealth of the West keeps shrinking, Westerners will feel increasingly more anxious, frustrated and angry. These kind of incidents will keep happening on a more regular basis. Many Westerners feel right now mentally besieged and this fuels their paranoia and desire for violence. Its normal human behavior.

BTW right wing movements are millennialists in essence. They believe the "end of times" is near. The White race is doomed and losing the war. So the only way to stop it is by accelerating the process. Only an abrupt change can save the White race. By killing innocent people they just want to trigger a major conflict. They are no different than some Islamist movements such as IS.

[randolph85]

Thats totally inacurate and uncalled for.
Im not sure if you ever been to europe but your portrayel of europe is very off.

I have not been to Europe but that is not the point. It’s that Erdogans policies regarding immigration of refugees to Europe is based on the fact that it’s percieved many of these people will be burdens on Euro society. Whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter.

[khushal]

Erdagon is not the cause of this. These same right wing groups supported military intervention in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen. The consequences of those interventions is migration. Reap and sow.

Industrial economies need people. There are only 2 ways to get people. To have babies or migration from other places. The first is not happening in industrial economies.
Look at the gulf Arabs. 90% are immigrants from south and east Asia. Without those people, Dubia would not be Dubia. You need people to create great cities and to keep them great.

[Insight]

I have not been to Europe but that is not the point. It’s that Erdogans policies regarding immigration of refugees to Europe is based on the fact that it’s percieved many of these people will be burdens on Euro society. Whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter.

Well why isn't that a good tactic? Erdogan is saying get out of the ME or allow refugees to flood your countries. They can't have it both ways. There is no such thing as a free lunch

Do you just ignore the fact that Western military intervention in the ME that has spanned decades is a major factor for the current mess?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Well why isn't that a good tactic? Erdogan is saying get out of the ME or allow refugees to flood your countries. They can't have it both ways. There is no such thing as a free lunch

Do you just ignore the fact that Western military intervention in the ME that has spanned decades is a major factor for the current mess?

Most Euro countries aren't presently in the ME.

[Insight]

Most Euro countries aren't presently in the ME.

So Im guessing those are Chinese troops dressed up as white guys in Iraq, Syria, Chad, and Afghanistan?

Secondly, their interventions since Colonialism are still having an impact to this day.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

So Im guessing those are Chinese troops dressed up as white guys in Iraq, Syria, Chad, and Afghanistan?

Secondly, their interventions since Colonialism are still having an impact to this day.

Which nationality of troops are they then? Break it down by the numbers for me ....also Chad is not in the Middle East and your post didn't pertain to risidual impact of past colonialism.

[khushal]

Most Euro countries aren't presently in the ME.

It doesn't matter if Euro countries aren't in the ME. The consequences of intervention will effect Europe just like the SOVIET invasion Effected Pakistan and Iran with refugees.
These anti immigrant right wing groups were big supporters of intervention. The problem is they are too stupid to think of the consequences of their actions.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

It doesn't matter if Euro countries aren't in the ME. The consequences of intervention will effect Europe just like the SOVIET invasion Effected Pakistan and Iran with refugees.
These anti immigrant right wing groups were big supporters of intervention. The problem is they are too stupid to think of the consequences of their actions.

Obviously, but Insight is saying Europe is somehow culpable for U.S. escapades. Firstly, not all European countries participated in these escapades. In fact most did not, most of the ones that did, did so grudgingly as a NATO obligation. Hence their troop presence was minimal.

Also, whiich right wing groups for big supporters of intervention? Most European right wing groups seem isolationist, at least after WWII. Care to enlighten me.

Secondly, also as a thought experiment, let's assume right wing groups IN EUROPE did support interventionalism, unless support means they actively petitioning and making mobilization plans, they still wouldn't be culpable.

If you guys are simply lumping Europe and America together, then that's simply sloppy reasoning. Europe has many nation states, the European Union is primarily economic, seldom geopolitical outside of Europe ...so yeah I hope you're not trying to suggest that Europe collectively has harbor for U.S. policies.

[Insight]

Obviously, but Insight is saying Europe is somehow culpable for U.S. escapades. Firstly, not all European countries participated in these escapades. In fact most did not, most of the ones that did, did so grudgingly as a NATO obligation. Hence their troop presence was minimal.

Also, whiich right wing groups for big supporters of intervention? Most European right wing groups seem isolationist, at least after WWII. Care to enlighten me.

Secondly, also as a thought experiment, let's assume right wing groups IN EUROPE did support interventionalism, unless support means they actively petitioning and making mobilization plans, they still wouldn't be culpable.

If you guys are simply lumping Europe and America together, then that's simply sloppy reasoning. Europe has many nation states, the European Union is primarily economic, seldom geopolitical outside of Europe ...so yeah I hope you're not trying to suggest that Europe collectively has harbor for U.S. policies.

I said Western military intervention. Europe has been following US into wars for decades. NATO is in Afghanistan or are you not aware of that?

France and Britain joined US for the anti-ISIS campaign which is still going on in Syria or are you unaware?

[Insight]

Which nationality of troops are they then? Break it down by the numbers for me ....also Chad is not in the Middle East and your post didn't pertain to risidual impact of past colonialism.

Why is France in Chad?

Residual what? Break it down by numbers LOL

Muslim world, Middle East, Greater Middle East, Central Asia.

Are you really this anaaal?