Swiss Muslim girls must learn to swim with boys, court rules

[BarakzaiAbdali]

13 year olds are not so currupted that they would behaving immorally at the sight of someone of the opposite gender in the presence of 20 other students as well as their teachers and lifeguards. I am not saying let them socialize in a room alone. If you raise your child properly, regardless of the time or place, they will know immoral behaviour when they come across it. But if you are someone who expects that from them and assumes that's what they do if they are put with 20 other kids of their own age and adults to supervise them, then you are not too fit to be in charge of raising kids and who knows what your kid might be up to, to begin with.
I believe in holding kids in high esteem and respecting them. If you show them that they are respected, they will respect you in return and never want to disappoint you. There is no resentment in between, bo communication barriers and all for the sake of love, not intimidation.

I am not telling anyone to leave their child unattended with someone of the opposite gender, nor am I suggesting that they should be taught immoral behaviour. Don't assume your child will do wrong just because they are not 5 anymore.

I don't know if biological reality agrees with your assessment:

A significant minority of younger teens are sexually active. Twenty-three percent of all 14-year-olds and 30 percent of all 15-year-olds have had sexual intercourse.1
The sexual activity rate among younger teens is increasing. Among males who turned 20 between 1970 and 1972, 20 percent had had sexual intercourse by age 15, compared to 27 percent of those who turned 20 between 1985 and 1987. Of females who turned 20 between 1985 and 1987, 10 percent had initiated sexual intercourse by age 15, compared to 4 percent of those who turned 20 between 1970 and 1972.2

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/467-pregnancy-and-childbearing-among-younger-teens

That is nearly a quarter in that particular age bracket (off by one year admittedly).

Additionally, the laws are predicated on the concept that children are protected against over protective parents who are going to not facilitate cultural integration... yet one particular culture (as per the France references) is targeted for this "modern" enforced integration even when egalitarian and libertarian values are being applied by the very people on whom obligations are enforced (e.g. the Burkini lady was not forcing anyone else to wear her clothes and was minding her own business).

I say "modern" because in the prior two decades when orthodox jews and Catholics implemented their own doctrinal segregation, there were no qualms.

[mungojerry]

which countries? only the gulf, and that is too because the royals have invited them there for work. Do you really think if Muslim public had power, they would allow non muslims to exist there? Look at how every trace of non muslims has been wiped out in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and so many other muslim countries. If muslim public has power, then ISIS happens, it is simple as that

all mullah lovers whining about west should be sent back to there origin countries but if any of them are deported they cry like babies haha.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I don't know if biological reality agrees with your assessment:

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/467-pregnancy-and-childbearing-among-younger-teens

That is nearly a quarter in that particular age bracket (off by one year admittedly).

Additionally, the laws are predicated on the concept that children are protected against over protective parents who are going to not facilitate cultural integration... yet one particular culture (as per the France references) is targeted for this "modern" enforced integration even when egalitarian and libertarian values are being applied by the very people on whom obligations are enforced (e.g. the Burkini lady was not forcing anyone else to wear her clothes and was minding her own business).

I say "modern" because in the prior two decades when orthodox jews and Catholics implemented their own doctrinal segregation, there were no qualms.

My condolences to you and anyone else who has come across or it part of a society where 14 year old Afghan, Pashtun or Muslim teenagers are actively participating in sexual acts such as intercourse.
My assessment is not inaccurate, your perception of it, is.

[Nekrofrost]

My condolences to you and anyone else who has come across or it part of a society where 14 year old Afghan, Pashtun or Muslim teenagers are actively participating in sexual acts such as intercourse.
My assessment is not inaccurate, your perception of it, is.

Im pakistan everyone used to sleep around. Im 17 and part of the youth so i know this from a first person view that people are so horny in that country its hilarious. I knew a few dudes whod slept around with younger girls(kinda pedophilic if you ask me) and its pretty common for teenagers of that age to do **** like that.

[DaZahroJaam.]

Yeah, that's not very common in other muslim societies. A lot of neglect has to go in to a child's upbringing in order for them to participate in things like that. Putting your foot into the water of a swimming pool that children of the opposite gender are swimming in, is not one of them.

[Nekrofrost]

Yeah, that's not very common in other muslim societies. A lot of neglect has to go in to a child's upbringing in order for them to participate in things like that. Putting your foot into the water of a swimming pool that children of the opposite gender are swimming in, is not one of them.

It is actually. Alot of this stuff isnt there on the outside but the world is filled with that stuff. And this this very common among muslims because of the restrictions of society and people do is more and more as an act of "rebellion" due to those restrictions

[Karachi]

extremist muslims are better off in their caves rather then swimming pools or beaches. Whats the point even of them being there. who wants to see a burkha wearing lady or a bearded mullah wearing Shalwaar swimming, its a very ugly and embarrassing site

[Karachi]

Its not like they are dying to learn swimmingl you bloody Hindu fool....why would anyone even need swimmingl lessons in mountaneous landlocked switzerland?

The girls are being forced to to strip naked and swim with men....you bloody cuck....this immoral and muslims have the right to protect their daughters...

idiot, read the article, they are young kids not men

[Insight]

KSA and Qatar should cut the oil flow, and send Switzerland back into the stone ages.. These guys should crawl on the floor, not drive in cars powered by Middle Eastern oil.

[Karachi]

KSA and Qatar should cut the oil flow, and send Switzerland back into the stone ages.. These guys should crawl on the floor, not drive in cars powered by Middle Eastern oil.

Do you really think Swiss or others need Fat ass arab oil, Arabs wouldn't even know how to use the oil had it not been discovered by westerners. Accept the truth, westerners are far superior to you and you're society/culture is a complete failure

[Kabulistan]

Do you really think Swiss or others need Fat ass arab oil, Arabs wouldn't even know how to use the oil had it not been discovered by westerners. Accept the truth, westerners are far superior to you and you're society/culture is a complete failure

Culturally I would not say Westerners are superior than Easterners... Technologically and scientifically yes...but in terms of culture no. Culture is subjective.

Read Guns, Germs, and Steel...IT will explain why Western Europe catapulted away from the rest of the World.

Change the outcome of a few moments in history, and Western Europe would not be what IT is, instead the pinnacle of civilisation would be located in another Region....

But I know desis worship White people as their Hindu gods, so you considering them superiors to yourself..

[khushal]

The Swiss and some other European nations are taking the whole integration thing to the extreme turning extremists themselves.

[mungojerry]

Culturally I would not say Westerners are superior than Easterners... Technologically and scientifically yes...but in terms of culture no. Culture is subjective.

Read Guns, Germs, and Steel...IT will explain why Western Europe catapulted away from the rest of the World.

Change the outcome of a few moments in history, and Western Europe would not be what IT is, instead the pinnacle of civilisation would be located in another Region....

But I know desis worship White people as their Hindu gods, so you considering them superiors to yourself..

It not possible to change moment in history like that. Western europe always gave fantastic beatings to your Arab masters when required and Arabs had to run back to the desert and hide under the sand.

i likes white people much better than being slave of arabs.

[Kabulistan]

It not possible to change moment in history like that. Western europe always gave fantastic beatings to your Arab masters when required and Arabs had to run back to the desert and hide under the sand.

i likes white people much better than being slave of arabs.

Arabs Dont have Power anymore...so none slaves of arabs today...whites have the Power now though...

[Khostai]

The Swiss and some other European nations are taking the whole integration thing to the extreme turning extremists themselves.

Well visit Europe and see how the immigrant kids behave, and how some who are born here act, ist embarassing. If Hindus came to Afghanistan building Hindu tempels and rediculed Afghan culture this would have been the last thing on your mind. You probably would build Hitler type camps...