India Muslim women 'raped' in fatal attack 'over beef'

[Karachi]

You posted this same thing before. These all refer to the same original sources, but just repeat them in various outlets, Sorry, garbage.

idiot the source is a proper study done on pashtuns, it is real, we all know this, just admit the bacha bazi problem among and I will be done

[Karachi]

Churchil when invading Pashtuns wrote that if Pashtun men captured Britishers soldiers they would tie them to the ground and then get their wives to kill them by urinating in their mouthes and faces till they drown, he also wrote that during patrols they came accross some Pashtun men eating humans alive ... It's a war tactic you have to make the person your fighting seem as inhuman and savage as possible in order to get public support for using their taxes in fighting them. Also it's funny how you as a kafir are calling homosexuality a 'problem' your people are marching the streets in gay pride go join them otherwise your not a true Canadian.

oh so now brits were writing against you? lol. I thought they said you were a superior martial race lol

[Karachi]

Dude India is portrayed as a haven for rape all over international media, it is as if they will be raped as soon as then get off the plane. It's a huge stereo type, don't act stupid.

Secondly I'll say it again, there's over 30 million Pashtuns in Pakistan, more Pashtuns then there is in Afghanistan yet there is no such thing as bachabazi there.. So it's only logical to assume it cannot be a Pashtun phenomenon or cultural trait, you can go ahead and force yourself to believe it is because it supports your narrative but truth is the truth, they don't even recognise the word since it's a Persian one. Pashtuns may be included in the practice in Afghanistan sure thing but it's more of a national thing since they are mixed with the Persians.

You will not find one article like that portraying that, It was Indian media itself which reports this first and then International media picks it up

Also South Africa has 10 times more rape then India (statistically) speaking, so stop talking from your behind

[Karachi]

mungojerry

you not seen TV program about pashtune truck drivers keeps so many boys for bach baazi in peshawar?

Pakistan’s Hidden Shame: Documentary reveals horrors of pedophilia in K-P
Pakistan’s Hidden Shame: Documentary reveals horrors of pedophilia in K-P - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

The documentary alleges that 9 out of 10 children in Peshawar have been victims of pedophilia. It also contains interviews with truck drivers who have committed such crimes.

that means 90% children in Peshawar victim pedophilia., and other report says 50% pashtune mans in afghanistan rural areas have bacha baazi boys.


^ I knew it, even Pakistani pashtuns practice this age old practice of pedophliia, I saw this back in Pakistan

[Karachi]

Firstly that has nothing to do with Bachabazi, either you don't know what bachazi is or your trying to label anything as Bachabazi.

Secondly, you are a lier where does it say 9 out of 10 children in Peshawar are victims of pedophilla or 90%..what a load of **** you are making up. Where it say 9 out of 10 kids in Peshawar have suffered pedophilia?? Desi Lier you have been watching too much Bollywood be real who you trying to fool. There's atleast 10 people from Peshawar here in the forum you are saying 9 of them have been victims of pedophiles??? Wake up, speak sense not nonsense.

Homeless kids are targeted around the world, kidnapped made into slaves, you desis kidnap them and make them work in factory's and make bricks, you desi's kidnap kids and force them into prostitution, are you forgetting all the other documentorys??? Or shall I remind you. You untouchable.

you idiot, we all knew this back in Pakistan of how pashtun men were kidnapping kids for this purpose, this is why all women in Pakistan warned their kids to stay away from single pashtun men, this documentary proves what I have been saying all along, that even Pakistani Pashtun men practice it, this has been part of your culture for centuries

[Manzareh]

You will not find one article like that portraying that, It was Indian media itself which reports this first and then International media picks it up

Also South Africa has 10 times more rape then India (statistically) speaking, so stop talking from your behind

One article? there's hundreds, hundreds of documentorys also. Try this yourself on google .. type in 'why is rape' in the searchbox and google comes out with india first, you dont even have to finish the sentence, google does it for you! loool shows how many billion times its been entered and people around the world confused. check it out lol

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You two Rapists are the worst with statistics, your stats are pulled out your ass, not only in this thread but every thread you've been a proven liar.

even your puny indian greasy bhaisaab benchod mungocherry is the same.. he comes out with crap like 9 out of 10 this and 90% that - what makes it worse is the fact that he posts material and directly lies about it, just like you have done may times here at PF, you are very similar people.

Stinking bobble head you are the weakest and frail people on the planet, you have zero balls.. all you are is an internet tough guy in real life your just a pusyio desi boy.

You and mongocherry benchas can carry on talking about paedophilia and homosexuality but the fact is any pashtun man could take your women any day of the week, this your real insecurity, would your wife or daughter pick a lil ugly desi or a pashtun? i think we both know the answer. Even in college the desi's would actually hide their girlfriends out of being insecure. We know you desi's ****bags well. You are just jealous.

[Manzareh]

Here's what most Indian men think about rape - Business Insider


Here's what most Indian men think about rape

When a condemned killer said the woman he and others brutally gang-raped on a New Delhi bus was responsible for what had happened to her, his comments were shocking in their callousness and lack of remorse. But the underlying view has wide acceptance in India.

Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men here are taught to believe.

And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, don't go out alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the consequences.

When one of the four men sentenced to death for the high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a new documentary as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he was repeating something community and religious leaders in this nation of 1.2 billion routinely say.

"A decent girl won't roam around at 9 o'clock at night. ... Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes," Mukesh Singh said in the documentary, "India's Daughter," meant to be shown on Sunday, International Women's Day, in India and several other countries.

But how different were the convicted rapist's words from comments that Manohar Lal Khattar, the top elected official of Haryana state made last year?

"If a girl is dressed decently, a boy will not look at her in the wrong way," Khattar told reporters, "Freedom has to be limited. These short clothes are Western influences. Our country's tradition asks girls to dress decently."

The convicted rapist learned only what he has heard leaders in his community say, said Jagmati Sangwan, a women's rights activist who heads the All India Democratic Women's Association.

"This man is just following the example our leaders are setting for our young men," she said.

In 2009 when a rightwing Hindu group attacked women in a pub in the southern state of Karnataka, then-Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa said that he wanted to "end the culture of boys and girls roaming around in malls holding hands."

Women leaders are not immune.

When a female journalist was shot dead in 2008 while driving home from work well past midnight, New Delhi's top official at the time, Sheila Dixit, make clear she partly blamed the victim.

"All by herself till 3 a.m. at night in a city where people believe...you know...you should not be so adventurous," she told reporters.

It's a view that Sangwan hears all too often.

"It's a heinous view to hold, but it's the view of our religious leaders, our community leaders, our legislators," she said.

The country's women aren't surprised either.

"A lot of Indian men think this way. They don't have any empathy or they are brought up in such a way that they don't feel anything for women. They feel that women are only for sex and to be thrown away," said Bhavleen Singh, an 18-year-old student at Delhi University.

Mukesh Singh, who was driving the bus for much of the time that the 23-year-old woman was being attacked, told the documentary film maker that the victim should have remained silent and allowed the rape, and that they would have spared her life.

The documentary, which includes a 2013 jailhouse interview with Singh, set off government alarm bells after transcripts were released this week. On Tuesday, India's Information and Broadcasting Ministry ordered television channels not to air the film.

It remains unclear whether the government will be able to block the film but the legal wrangling will most likely delay its screening in India.

The brutality, and perhaps the fact that the gang rape occurred on a moving bus in a posh New Delhi neighborhood, galvanized this country of 1.2 billion, where sexual violence is rampant.

The woman and a male friend were returning home from seeing a movie at an upscale mall when they were tricked by the attackers into getting on the bus, which the men had taken out for a joyride. The attackers beat the victim's friend and took turns raping her. They penetrated her with a rod, leaving severe internal injuries that led to her death two weeks later.

Four men were convicted of rape and murder in an unusually fast trial for India's chaotic justice system. A fifth man died in prison, and another attacker who was a juvenile at the time was sentenced to three years in a detention center.

The four adults who went to trial confessed to the attack but later retracted their confessions, saying they'd been tortured into admitting their involvement. Legal appeals against their death sentences are pending in the Supreme Court.

In response to the 2012 attack and the widespread public protests it provoked, India's government rushed through legislation doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years and criminalizing voyeurism, stalking and the trafficking of women.

But while laws can change quickly, mindsets do not. India's Parliament held a stormy debate Wednesday on whether the film should be screened. Some legislators questioned how the filmmaker, who is British, had gotten into the prison to do the interview. Many, though, were uncomfortable with having India's problems aired publicly — particularly by a foreign filmmaker.

But several lawmakers, many of them women, disagreed.

"What the man spoke reflects views of many men in India," Anu Aga, a prominent businesswoman and legislator said in Parliament.

"Every time a rape happens, the victim is blamed to have provoked the men. Let's be aware of the view and not pretend all is well," she said.

[Manzareh]

Behind India's shocking gang rapes lies a deep crisis among young men | Kishwar Desai | Opinion | The Guardian

Behind India's shocking gang rapes lies a deep crisis among young men

For anyone who maintains that women are raped because of the way they dress or the way they look, the image of two thin and scrawny teenagers hanging from a mango tree, gang raped and murdered by their neighbours in Budaun, Uttar Pradesh, provided a powerful lesson. It was a poignant reminder that, according to the National Crime Records Bureau, incidents of rape in India have gone up tenfold in the last 40 years.

From 1971 to 2012 recorded cases shot up from just under 2,500 to almost 25,000, and activists believe only 10% of cases are actually reported to the police. This rising trend of sexual violence needs to be better understood. And today it was reported that a judge in Aligarh, Uttar Pradesh, was the victim of an attempted rape in her well-protected home.

The enormous spike in rape incidents has been ascribed, in urban areas, to women joining the workforce and facing aggressive male resistance; and in rural areas to the all-pervasive caste system, as in this case, where the girls belonged to a lower caste than the rapists. But the underlying problems go far wider, and point to a deeper crisis, which India must urgently address.

Uttar Pradesh, where these latest horrific attacks took place, is one of the poorest states in India, with more than 60 million people living on less than a pound a day. At the same time, India is grappling with a lost generation of those who were born after economic liberalisation but are ill-educated, unemployed – and, mostly, male. According to the International Labour Organisation, India saw a growth in joblessness between 2004 and 2009.

Unemployment and poverty are common features among the gangs who rape. In this environment, and within a patriarchal structure, violence is one of the few things that can command respect. As young men become increasingly unable to participate in the "India shining" fairytale, they reassert their identities, and power, in a savage and cruel act.

During the last 10 years, especially, there was an incredibly slow creation of educational and job opportunities. It is no coincidence that many marginalised men, born in the last two or three decades, have reached adolescence or adulthood in the same period as rape incidents began to spiral upwards.

And the police are often willing participants. In the Budaun case, not only were the rapists known to the victims' family, but two of the suspects are policemen. Indeed, they have sympathisers at an even higher level: the former chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, Mulayam Singh Yadav, said recently about jailed rapists: "Boys will be boys."

Underlying all this is the fact that around half of India's population is under 30. And thanks to years of systematic sex selection, a significant majority of them are men. In Uttar Pradesh, for instance, there are just 912 girls for every 1,000 boys. This shortage of young women makes it very difficult for these men to have a normal relationship.

It is now obvious that the important anti-rape law passed last year, after the shocking gang-rape of a young woman on a bus in Delhi, has not been enough: there are too few fast-track courts, and too many criminals are finding it easy to escape identification. They either hunt for younger and younger girls, who are less likely to name them; or, more and more, they kill or torture their victims – by pouring acid into their throats, setting them alight or, as in this case, hanging them.

Of course, it is important to note that rape happens behind closed doors in upper-class homes as well, and we cannot put the blame entirely on these marginalised, ill-educated young men. But as this trend of gang rapes becomes more prevalent, some economic solutions will have to be found to assimilate these increasingly frustrated young men into civil society, and ensure that education and jobs are offered. Otherwise Indian women will continue to pay the price.

[Karachi]

One article? there's hundreds, hundreds of documentorys also. Try this yourself on google .. type in 'why is rape' in the searchbox and google comes out with india first, you dont even have to finish the sentence, google does it for you! loool shows how many billion times its been entered and people around the world confused. check it out lol

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You two Rapists are the worst with statistics, your stats are pulled out your ass, not only in this thread but every thread you've been a proven liar.

even your puny indian greasy bhaisaab benchod mungocherry is the same.. he comes out with crap like 9 out of 10 this and 90% that - what makes it worse is the fact that he posts material and directly lies about it, just like you have done may times here at PF, you are very similar people.

Stinking bobble head you are the weakest and frail people on the planet, you have zero balls.. all you are is an internet tough guy in real life your just a pusyio desi boy.

You and mongocherry benchas can carry on talking about paedophilia and homosexuality but the fact is any pashtun man could take your women any day of the week, this your real insecurity, would your wife or daughter pick a lil ugly desi or a pashtun? i think we both know the answer. Even in college the desi's would actually hide their girlfriends out of being insecure. We know you desi's ****bags well. You are just jealous.

so you are going by google search bar for your stats, just type pashtun and bacha bazi in there and see what it says lol

I am bringing you sources you dumb ass, I have given links to everything, even mongocherry gave link to that documentary which clearly talks about pashtun pedophilia

[Manzareh]

What’s Really Behind India’s Rape Crisis - The Daily Beast

What’s Really Behind India’s Rape Crisis

India and China both have a surplus of males, but only one country has an out-of-control rape epidemic.

On Feb. 23, 2016, an Indian woman, within hours of giving birth by C-section, was raped in a hospital near New Delhi. Some in India took consolation in the fact that at least she was not, like Nirbhaya—the 23-year-old female physiotherapy intern—beaten up after being raped.
A few days later, on March 8, 2016, on Women’s Day, a 15-year-old girl was raped and set on fire.

For those who don’t remember, in December 2012, Nirbhaya was beaten with iron rods, gang-raped, and tortured in a private bus while she was travelling with her boyfriend. As a result of an international outrage over her assault and subsequent death, new laws and new fast-track courts were promised. More women are now willing to report rape cases. But even two years after Nirbhaya, her father claims that the promises of reform were unmet, and that justice in India has failed his daughter and women like her.

Indeed, Amnesty International reports that authorities have not effectively implemented new laws on crimes against women. The majority of rape cases still go unreported. In Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s India, the problem, instead of abating, has become worse:

2011 24,206 (reported rapes per year in India)
2012 24,923
2013 33,707
2014 37,000

In India a women is reportedly raped every 15 minutes. Multiply that by 24x7, 365 days a year. And keep in mind the majority of rape cases still go unreported. The statistics on crime against women is even worse: Every 2 minutes, a women in India is a victim of a crime. This ongoing issue with violence against women raises the real and serious question of whether India is truly ready for a seat on the global table.

One explanation for the ongoing rape problem is the skewed sex ratio. Like China, India has a massive imbalance in its sex ratio. According to the Indian census, the sex ratio in the 6 and below age group has risen from 102.4 males per 100 females in 1961 (the Liberal Nehru days) to 108.9 in 2011 (the Fiery Hindutva Ideology days). In Gujarat, Indian PM Modi’s home state, the sex ratio is 112 to 100.

Economists and sociologists call this the Bare Branches phenomenon, a result of female feticide over a very long period of time. It is an issue that India shares with its massive neighbor, China, where boy babies are also culturally preferred over girls. Independent studies out of MIT and Columbia University have postulated that these Bare Branches—males with a snowball’s chance in hell of finding a female companion—threaten domestic stability and international security.

And yet, the surplus of males in China doesn’t appear to be leading to a rape crisis there. In fact, research has found that while China has seen an uptick in general violence due to the Bare Branches, they actually tend to behave gently around women. No such correlation was found in India.

Why this shocking disparity?

A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures. The Mahabharata, Book 13 Section 40 (13.40), states, “There is no creature more sinful, than woman. She is poison, she is snake.” Other texts say that “Women are living lies.”
Now, to begin with, Bare Branches are predisposed to violence—but in the absence of any respect for women, this violence comes without remorse and becomes unhinged. This is precisely what we are seeing today. The caste system explains the violence against women in India, but to understand the inordinately high number of rapes in India, one needs to dig deeper for answers.

At this moment in its long tumultuous history, India is seeing a renaissance of a narrowly defined, ultranationalist, militant Hindutva ideology. Modi is the poster child of this ideology. This ideology places a lot of emphasis on India’s most beloved epics and historical stories. Sadly at the heart of these ballad-like mythological stories lie lurid tales of sex that glorify rape.
The God Vishnu is said to have raped Tulsi/Vrinda by assuming the guise of her husband:

On seeing her husband, Vrinda was delighted, she forgot her sorrow, dormant passions kindled up. She embraced her husband right there in the middle of the forest. But, at the end of the intercourse she realized that it was Vishnu and not her husband. Vrinda rebuked him angrily. Vrinda said, “Fie on Vishnu in outraging the modesty of another man’s wife.”

Yet this horrible act is justified and glorified, because Indians believe that Tulsi’s husband, Shankachuda/Jalandhar, was invincible in war unless her chastity was first destroyed. Therefore to defeat Jalandhar, it was imperative and gallant of Vishnu to rape Tulsi. Vishnu is seen as a hero for raping her.
Then there is God Brihaspati. He is the Guru of all Indian Gods. Well, this Guru of Gods raped his own pregnant sister-in-law, Mamata. According to Matsya Purana 49.17-28:

Brihaspati, one day saw Mamata, the wife of his brother, Usija. She was pregnant at that time, nonetheless, the story goes that that Brihaspati proposed to her, “Dress thyself well and let us enjoy.” She replied, “The embryo in my womb is mature and is already reciting the Vedas.” Hearing that Brihaspati said, “I don’t need to be taught morality by thee, O sweet one.” After saying that, he raped her.

In America, the day Donald Trump started using bigoted language, Macy’s stopped carrying his clothing line. The Cosby Show was pulled from reruns soon after scores of women accused the comedian of rape. In normal societies people shun bigots and rapists. On appalling issues like rape, one is in fact guilty until proven innocent.

But Brihaspati, even after the tales of rape, is still a God in India. No God in India was ever demoted, leave alone “prosecuted,” for raping a women. Every rape in Indian stories is given a clean chit. It is merely what macho men do; it is just normal. Indian mythology conditions people to attach zero consequence to rape. Furthermore, it is not just rape—all kinds of sordid sex that the modern West would consider taboo is glorified and normalized in old Indian Scriptures. Sex between brothers and sisters, check; parents and children, check; and even with corpses and corpses of dead animals. In the Oscar-nominated movie, The Revenant, the Bear leaves Leornado DiCaprio alone, but in Indian mythology, the Bear has sex with the God Brahma and gifts him with a child, Jambu Vandan.

In a society where the national narrative conditions people to think that rape has no consequences; where violence has been unleashed by an imbalanced sex ratio; and where women have little or no cultural respect, 37,000 reported rapes per year is not shocking, or even surprising. It is just par for the course.

This oppressive atrocity against women in India will get worse, not better. Things will not get better unless there is an international outcry against Modi and his right-wing goons. When Modi met President Obama in India, he was so overwhelmed with the honor that he dressed up in his best vanity suit fit for a James Bond Villain’s audition. The suit notwithstanding, we understand that he wants legitimacy and respect on the global arena. Perhaps a seat on the big boy’s table should be held back till he curbs the Hindutva Ideology, and makes conditions safe for women in India.
Hence, for the women in India, the world needs to hold Modi responsible. Every 2 minutes a women is victimized in India. An international outcry can make a change for the better.

[Manzareh]

You will not find one article like that portraying that,

There's actually thousands that can be found within seconds, you want more of an ass whooping, or shall i stop here?

[Manzareh]

Dont even get me started on the documentaries on the nature of you desi's child pedophillia, forced prostitution, rape and acceptance by your race .. infact the place where you originate from UP is the most shameful!

[Manzareh]

Who are you fooling??? the world knows you most for one thing and one thing only...SEXUAL CRIME

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[Karachi]

and your links are the things that have already been discussed, yes there is problem in India and Indians are trying to solve it, you are using Indian links, so clearly it says something that Indians have regognized the problem, give me one pashtun link that discusses bacha bazi and tries to solve the problem

[Manzareh]

Daughters of Darkness - Short Version - YouTube

A film about child prostitution in India. Shot in various parts of the country, this short film brings out the actual state of affairs when it comes to handling child prostitution.