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  • #31
    "often used slurs against African Americans, gay people and women."

    Sound like average pashtun nationalist on PF and internet in general.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      He was a latent homosexual:

      At least four regular customers of Pulse, the nightclub where the massacre took place, said Monday that they believe they had seen Mateen there before.

      "Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

      He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.

      "We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times," Smith said. "He told us he had a wife and child."

      Killer Omar Mateen visited Pulse club a dozen times before shooting, witnesses say - Orlando Sentinel
      sorry but this is just too funny hahahahahahahhahaha LMFAO

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      • #33
        Orlando shooter Omar Mateen knew of Boston Marathon bombers | Daily Mail Online


        "Omar Mateen traveled to Saudi Arabia in March of 2011 and March of 2012 on 10-day pilgrimages where he performed Umrah
        Mateen made the first pilgrimage after separating from his wife, who said that he never showed an interest in religion when they were together

        He became more and more religious in the wake of his divorce according to a friend, and a former co-worker described Mateen as a devout Muslim

        Mateen was investigated in 2013 for saying he knew Boston bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who he called his 'homeboys' in 911 call

        Mateen 'did practice and he had his faith' said Yusifiy, but was not devout or radical about his beliefs."
        Last edited by Damir9000; 06-13-2016, 07:39 PM.



        "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          Omar Mir Siddique Mateen's family and friends were interviewed by the media. They described him as a man who use to take drugs, smoke, he didn't pray, he shaved his beard and was beating his wife. That makes him a typical Pashtun nationalist.

          Becuase Pashtun nationalists are not practising Islam.
          Pashtun Nationalism is an ignorant ideology

          but claiming someone who beats his wife and does lewd and indecent acts is by default a Pashtun Nationalist is a false equivalence and intellectually dishonest

          What about Pashtun Nationalists that don't do those things? does it disqualify their Pashtun Nationalism? It's a Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy; just trying to fit things that fit your ideological premise.

          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
          don’t try to be smart.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
            "Persians" (I suppose you mean Afghan Tajik) goy many problems and our culture got many flaws. But mass cases of terrorism, drug dealing and religious fanaticism seems to be strong among Pashtun people. More than any other people in the world. I blame your warmonger culture.
            You must have been in a coma between 1975-2001. Some of the most extreme elements of the Civil War were lead by Tajiks, who also used opium trade for financing.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • #36
              “(He’d get) really, really drunk... He couldn’t drink when he was at home—around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it,” Smith told the Canadian Press.

              Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                Pashtun Nationalism is an ignorant ideology

                but claiming someone who beats his wife and does lewd and indecent acts is by default a Pashtun Nationalist is a false equivalence and intellectually dishonest

                What about Pashtun Nationalists that don't do those things? does it disqualify their Pashtun Nationalism? It's a Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy; just trying to fit things that fit your ideological premise.
                I started this thread mentioning his father who is a Pashtun Nationalist. I didn't say he was one. But Pashtun nationalists here on pf saw that as an attack on them. I was just trolling after that.

                What really motivated this guy is mental illness. He was a sick man and he inherited that sickness from his Pashtun Nationalist father.

                His father curses Pakistan all day on tv and Facebook and yet sunny boy had a big green Pakistan flag and a Jinnah quote as his banner.

                According to people who knew him at the gay bar, he kept complaining about his fathers strictness.

                FBi investigated him after he bragged about being a friend or Tsarnayevs. But it turned out he was lying.

                Bottom line is: he was insane. But if it hurts nationalists feelings, I would say he was motivated by their ideology.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #38
                  In my opinion, loneliness and an empty, purposeless life took a toll on him. Just imagine a person who was rejected by two women. No success as a married man, no fulfillment in life - and that also in the case of an eastern man where a very high importance is attached to being able to build a family and have a successful career.

                  According to news he had two wives; the one that divorced him in 2011; the other who was married him for a short time but ultimately left him as well. One can just imagine the depression and melancholy he might be going though.
                  Last edited by Toramana; 06-13-2016, 08:18 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    In my opinion, loneliness and an empty, purposeless life took a toll on him. Just imagine a person who was rejected by two women. No success as a married man, no fulfillment in life - and that also in the case of an eastern man where a very high importance is attached to being able to build a family and have a successful career.

                    According to news he had two wives; the one that divorced him in 2011; the other who was married him for a short time but ultimately left him as well. One can just imagine the depression and melancholy he might be passing though.
                    So because women couldn't deal with his violent nature and left him he went to a gay bar and killed so many people?

                    I think he was already sick. Women left him because of it. And it now turns out he was also gay.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Zarim View Post
                      This killer pledged allegiance to ISIS in a 911 call before the attack. And the ISIS thugs issued a statement acknowledging that the shooter was affiliated with ISIS. Pashtun nationalism has nothing to do with this. And those who try to argue otherwise have questionable motives... to say the least.
                      Because isis saying it was their man wasn't credible enough they had to come up with a back up quick time and say he rang 911 himself lol.. But hold up, why ring 911 to pledge your allegiance!? Is that the hotline bling for Isis or is it the recruitment line or something, why do you have to ring 911 to pledge allegiance.. Why no mention of his 'alliegence' to his family or anyone else.
                      Last edited by Manzareh; 06-13-2016, 10:56 PM.
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                      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                      Originally posted by Karachi
                      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                      • #41
                        He was using a mobile gay dating app: Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #42
                          Gawker? Not exactly credible.

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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                          • #43
                            He asked his classmate out. Definitely gay!

                            Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
                            | www.palmbeachpost.com

                            Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
                            Originally posted by Firdousi
                            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              He asked his classmate out. Definitely gay!

                              Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
                              | www.palmbeachpost.com

                              Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
                              So it was a classic case of a gay Tajik trying to repress his homosexuality which erupted into a violent outburst leading to a massacre.

                              Makes sense.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ANAcommander View Post
                                So it was a classic case of a gay Tajik trying to repress his homosexuality which erupted into a violent outburst leading to a massacre.

                                Makes sense.
                                But why did he choose to lash out in this manner instead being a happy gay man (if he was actually gay) ?


                                side note: How did he became gay in a Muslim household?



                                "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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