Pashtun Nationalist Seddique Mateen's son massacred 50 gays in Orlando

[Damir9000]

He was using a mobile gay dating app: Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App

Maybe, he was doing research.
Checking out where & which day he could do maximum damage.

They also say he research Disneyworld.

[Firdousi]

You must have been in a coma between 1975-2001. Some of the most extreme elements of the Civil War were lead by Tajiks, who also used opium trade for financing.

Tajik forces committed horrible atrocities during the Civil War but still you are missing the point: we don't praise war. Pashtuns do. Pashtuns are proud of their warmonger culture. They are proud to be warriors. Well war is about this, buddy: destruction, misery, poverty, refugees and dishonor.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Tajik forces committed horrible atrocities during the Civil War but still you are missing the point: we don't praise war. Pashtuns do. Pashtuns are proud of their warmonger culture. They are proud to be warriors. Well war is about this, buddy: destruction, misery, poverty, refugees and dishonor.

This is a narrative of people who don't know the intricacies and nuances of Pashtun society and culture. It's superficial and with all due respect, rooted in hubris.

Pashtuns like Tajiks have a rich cultural heritage, they're not perfect and have many internal problems to resolve; but being an armchair critic does not make one qualified to assess Pashtun society anymore than internet loudmouths have to critique Persian society.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

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[Firdousi]

This is a narrative of people who don't know the intricacies and nuances of Pashtun society and culture. It's superficial and with all due respect, rooted in hubris.

Pashtuns like Tajiks have a rich cultural heritage, they're not perfect and have many internal problems to resolve; but being an armchair critic does not make one qualified to assess Pashtun society anymore than internet loudmouths have to critique Persian society.

Dude, its pretty obvious I am not an expert when it comes to Pashtun culture. Nor I have never denied your cultural heritage. Pashtun culture got some really good things. But still... you are unable to answer my questions: do Pashtuns take pride of their warrior nature? YES. Does this "warrior pride" lead to violence and war? YES.

You are than welcome to critique Tajik society. I have always said that our culture got sooooooooo many flaws. But terrorism, drug dealings and religious fanaticism are limited to Pashtun people (there are many non Pashtuns involved for sure).. really, you are a smart guy. Why its so difficult for you to accept this?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Dude, its pretty obvious I am not an expert when it comes to Pashtun culture. Nor I have never denied your cultural heritage. Pashtun culture got some really good things. But still... you are unable to answer my questions: do Pashtuns take pride of their warrior nature? YES. Does this "warrior pride" lead to violence and war? YES.

You are than welcome to critique Tajik society. I have always said that our culture got sooooooooo many flaws. But terrorism, drug dealings and religious fanaticism are limited to Pashtun people (there are many non Pashtuns involved for sure).. really, you are a smart guy. Why its so difficult for you to accept this?

Taking pride in being a warrior and being a warmonger are different things. The Japanese had Bushido; i.e. "The Way of the Warrior", It was something built on chivalry and ethics. So you can't conflate "Pride in being a Warrior" and pride in Warmongering.

Mirwais Khan Hotak was a great liberator and warrior; his son Mahmud, sadly was a tyrant and bloodthirsty. One was a warrior, another a warmonger.

It's not my job to critique Tajik society; honestly most of the problems we face are due to poverty, lack of education, lack of strong and cogent leadership, parochial thinking, lacking a desire to tackle the needs of a modern world, the manipulation of foreign powers to serve their geopolitical interests. ...and most importantly a LOSS of our spirituality.

This is among all Muslim populations irregardless of Tajik or Pashtun or otherwise

We're either governed by Stooges of Neocolonialism; Khawarii-Saudi indoctrinated lunatics, Qom-based Mullah Cartel, secular autocrats or some permutation of all of these.

But ultimately it all stems from a spiritual problem, maybe that sounds like my head's in the clouds, but that's my ultimate conclusion, we're spiritually misaligned and all our issues with our choices stem from that.

[Firdousi]

Taking pride in being a warrior and being a warmonger are different things. The Japanese had Bushido; i.e. "The Way of the Warrior", It was something built on chivalry and ethics. So you can't conflate "Pride in being a Warrior" and pride in Warmongering.

Mirwais Khan Hotak was a great liberator and warrior; his son Mahmud, sadly was a tyrant and bloodthirsty. One was a warrior, another a warmonger.

It's not my job to critique Tajik society; honestly most of the problems we face are due to poverty, lack of education, lack of strong and cogent leadership, parochial thinking, lacking a desire to tackle the needs of a modern world, the manipulation of foreign powers to serve their geopolitical interests. ...and most importantly a LOSS of our spirituality.

This is among all Muslim populations irregardless of Tajik or Pashtun or otherwise

We're either governed by Stooges of Neocolonialism; Khawarii-Saudi indoctrinated lunatics, Qom-based Mullah Cartel, secular autocrats or some permutation of all of these.

But ultimately it all stems from a spiritual problem, maybe that sounds like my head's in the clouds, but that's my ultimate conclusion, we're spiritually misaligned and all our issues with our choices stem from that.

Honestly, dude, you are, by far, the smartest guy on this forum. You are right to some degree and your analogy between Samurais and Pashtuns is correct. But seems you fail to comprehend that Samurais were a bunch of crazy animals, all the day battling for their stupid honor, while the average Jap peasant was suffering like a dog. Same thing happened to West during Medieval times when Knights were fighting over petty issues while people were suffering. You see? Same thing happens to Pashtuns: their own "warrior nature" is bringing misery and destruction to themselves. Honesty you would certainly do us a great favor if you get rid of it.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Honestly, dude, you are, by far, the smartest guy on this forum. You are right to some degree and your analogy between Samurais and Pashtuns is correct. But seems you fail to comprehend that Samurais were a bunch of crazy animals, all the day battling for their stupid honor, while the average Jap peasant was suffering like a dog. Same thing happened to West during Medieval times when Knights were fighting over petty issues while people were suffering. You see? Same thing happens to Pashtuns: their own "warrior nature" is bringing misery and destruction to themselves. Honesty you would certainly do us a great favor if you get rid of it.

You're right; but the principles that were intended to govern the Samurai's conduct is what I believe defined a true warrior. Many Samurai were all clout but when it came to their actions they disregarded the Spiritual Essence of Bushido and opted to merely validate the tyranny of the Shogunate. Worldly endeavors not Noble ones It's because they distorted those concepts ...IN MY OPINION...that lead them to go to extremes.

True Warriors are rare, but it's an aspiration we can all strive to achieve. It's a spiritual battle first and a worldly battle second.

[کیش]

shamlawar, what do you believe should be done to an immoral gathering of homosexuals during the holy month of ramazan?? i am sorry, i mean ramadhan..??

Its Ramadan. Put some respect to that name.

[Adam]

put some respek on my name

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

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[Manzareh]

Y'all better respek it

[Firdousi]

You're right; but the principles that were intended to govern the Samurai's conduct is what I believe defined a true warrior. Many Samurai were all clout but when it came to their actions they disregarded the Spiritual Essence of Bushido and opted to merely validate the tyranny of the Shogunate. Worldly endeavors not Noble ones It's because they distorted those concepts ...IN MY OPINION...that lead them to go to extremes.

True Warriors are rare, but it's an aspiration we can all strive to achieve. It's a spiritual battle first and a worldly battle second.

I am not against bravery. Pashtuns are indeed brave people, but they go too far with their warmongerism. They have an extremely high opinion of themselves. Pashtuns think they are the bravest, the smartest, the most beautiful people in the world and so on. Bitter truth is they are not. Blowing yourself up in a crowded market is not "bravery", but a disgrace. If Pashtuns were so smart, they would be right now enjoying the best life, but they are by far the poorest and most miserable people in the world.

Do you guys realize that everyone is taking advantage of this stupid warrior mentality of yours while Pashtuns are suffering in an inhuman way? Pashtuns would benefit more than anyone else if they stop with this st*pid barbarism and warrior mentality. Otherwise guys you will suffer. And you will die And will become pariahs, forced to give up your honor just for few rupias. As an educated Pashtun, you should encourage your people to wake up.

[DaZahroJaam.]

Its Ramadan. Put some respect to that name.

it's ramazan to me. unlike you, i don't open my fast with strands from the beards of my arab masters.

[Damir9000]

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"Callen and Smith said they both stopped speaking to Mateen when he threatened them with a knife, after someone made a joke about religion."

hmm a muslim struggling with being gay.
Maybe "martyrdom" was the only way to go paradise.