Jamiate Shaitani's Mullah Hanafi claims men can rape their wives

[BarakzaiAbdali]

If people start calling Putin a holy messenger of God for an example of all of mankind to follow, then we'll bring up his invasion of Ukraine to disprove them.

Perspective my failed canine friend, perspective. To the Russian ethnic population of East Ukraine he is a hero who is saving them from zealots in Kiev. To the ethnic Ukranians he is otherwise...

If people start calling Thomas Jefferson a holy messenger of God for all of mankind to follow, then we'll bring up his past of owning slaves to disprove them.

LOOOOL. Emotional logic does not trump actual logic. There is the concept of mutually exclusive parts of life. His leadership capability and thoughtfulness as well as foresight in drafting out governance for his people is rarely if ever analyzed in the light of owning slaves. So far as we know TJ was a product of his era and was not a John Calhoun type demagogue and bigot hell bent on keeping black people in chains. Therefore anyone with objectivity would be hard pressed to say Jefferson was "immoral" relative to his compatriots.

Mormons give some power hungry deceitful snake with many wives (similar to Muhammad) a holy status and their leader and religion has been criticized immensely on the topic.

LOOOOL. Have you read the number of wives Ahmad Shah Baba and his son Timur had? Fool, go read a book before you talk. Joseph Smith posited a history where Christ came to the US and met with native Americans. What he promulgated and the benefits he reaped are a far far far different thing then the semitic tradition of the Prophets of Israel and the shifting of the lineage to Ismail.

Since Muslims think Muhammad was a holy messenger of God with no imperfect actions, then he shouldn't be owning slaves or concubines or being a megalomaniac warlord.

Holy Messenger of God, yes. A human being, yes. You have your theology all wrong loser. Surah Abasa and the reprimand given to him for turning away from the poorer questioner as well as the Quran itself stating it was not sent to an angel (infallible) make it clear that he was a human of his time And for that time, even his adversaries neither stressed his marriages, his enlightened gradualism toward emancipation of slaves, or his defensive war posturing. They focused on his theology.

Fool, lol - if you want to bring men to task for owning slaves and the like and how they are to women and not have panoramic view of who they are then you better get to burning the Tarikh of Ahmad Shah, Khushal Khan Baba's diwan etc. And if your retort is "they didn't claim to be Prophets" thats not a cop out.. they claimed to be leaders of their people with a moral aptitude.

He can be just remembered as a man of history similar to Thomas Jefferson without being considered a prophet.

Understand?

Understand that you are grossly uninformed and stuck in the 1980s but somehow hypocritically now a secular capitalist after an era of being a marxist compatriot... I understand that but the rest of your bul-l sh-it is only comprehensible to other Quixotic losers

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[Damir9000]

Thanks BarakzaiAbdali for confirming that Muhammad:

1. Was a Slave Master
2. Had Sex with his Slaves
3. was a noble Prophet of God

[BarakzaiAbdali]

That was just a big wall of ad hominem. You just called him a roach without trying to disprove him.

Niiiice, reaching for the Ad hominem cop out as only losers and roaches can. You attempt ad hominem at the Mohammad, its the least one can do to reciprocate Don Quixote of the Roach race. Now run along and go build "Azaaaaad Pashtunistan" where Farhat Taj Manderson is President Empress and mosques are actually bars.

And owning slaves is "establishing the foundation for something good"? You do realize all slaves are slaves against their will? Owning them is not a good thing. Jesus never owned any slaves.

Uhhh, he said clearly "I have not come to DESTROY the Law but to FULFILL it" in the New Testament. This is in reference to the Torah Law and the OT and Moses and Aaron specifically in Exodus a part of the Torah/Law are instructed on slaves they have bought. LOOOOL. Damn you are uninformed you bigot.

But keep going, this is entertaining Azaaaaad Pashtunistaaaan. How can a slave roach that bent for Najib and now for 37 NATO powers totaling 38 sajdaay to idiots be Azaaaaad looool. Maybe azaaad in the negative sense of being overly naked, but not much else

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

What foundation? What accomplishment?

Go back a few posts Slo Mo. The dyslexia overcomes you. Re-read it. I know its tough to learn hominoid language when you are a bottom feeding insectile creature... but its all there.

Muhammad practiced slavery & so did his successors.

Nah, Muhammad developed a platform for linking good deeds and emancipation for the first time in recorded religious history.

Many Islamic leaders continued to do it through history.

LOOOOL. Many leaders throughout history married, had kids, and walked on grass. I suspect all of them were smarter than you too.

How are Lincoln & Ferguson relevant to this topic?

LOL. I'll let you think about how dumb that question is for a while. That is your homework.

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Thanks BarakzaiAbdali for confirming that Muhammad:

1. Was a Slave Emancipator
   
   Corrections above to your homework.
   
2. Had Sex with his Slaves
   
   LOL. The Egyptian non Muslim leader of the era sent Muhammad Maryam with whom he had his beloved son Ibrahim and who loved the man to the end of this days. Like I said, just because you fantasize about locking girls in your basement didn't mean or doesnt mean others share your patho psychology.
   
3. was a noble Prophet of God
   
   Absolutely! We should publish in Nature the journal, that roaches can learn 1 out of 100 facts.
   

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[Damir9000]

What foundation? What accomplishment?

Go back a few posts Slo Mo. The dyslexia overcomes you. Re-read it. I know its tough to learn hominoid language when you are a bottom feeding insectile creature... but its all there.

Muhammad practiced slavery & so did his successors.

Nah, Muhammad developed a platform for linking good deeds and emancipation for the first time in recorded religious history.

Many Islamic leaders continued to do it through history.

LOOOOL. Many leaders throughout history married, had kids, and walked on grass. I suspect all of them were smarter than you too.

How are Lincoln & Ferguson relevant to this topic?

LOL. I'll let you think about how dumb that question is for a while. That is your homework.

Muhammad didn't invent the concept of Freeing Slaves that performed well.
Romans did it all the time.
Emancipating slaves doesn't forgive the fact that he and his followers practiced slavery.

Lincoln & the events in Ferguson have nothing to do with Muhammad's actions.


I think you fail to realize that a Prophet of God shouldn't be practicing Slavery & having sex slaves.

If you can't understand that then it your brain that is truly damaged.

"False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

You are a good example of this.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Muhammad didn't invent the concept of Freeing Slaves that performed well.
Romans did it all the time.

Hahahaha you're hilarious. Augustus's famous set of laws called LEX AELIUS SENTA regulated manumission idiot. August made it HARDER to free slaves by limiting manumissions to 100 per owner and not before the age of 30. Dio, the commentator on August's laws felt that August's measures PROPERLY impeded a freed slave from rising in social sttaus. Contrast this with Zaid the freed slave's wife complaining to the Prophet of Zaid's status not being on par with hers since he was a freed slave and the Prophet admonishing they stay together....

https://books.google.com/books?id=26s6CG8LffsC&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=augustus+slaves+30+Lex+Aelia+Sentia&source=bl&ots=17wtVyRwqF&sig=UkIDDvqYUd3D-WT6CASQvJiR4JE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi89NePu5vMAhUM6CYKHWgJCUgQ6AEIIDAC#v=onepage&q=augustus%20slaves%2030%20Lex%20Aelia%20Sentia&f=false

With Augustus limiting freedom BEFORE the age of 30, well in the old world with a life expectancy of 35 ... looooooool, such a giiiiift from the Romans whose dong you are riding (sarcasm).

Lincoln & the events in Ferguson have nothing to do with Muhammad's actions.

Re-read the posts roach. Lets see if we can get that intelligence level batting average up. The hint is that even the most progressive cutting edge empires have a gradualism and the individual that lays the foundation for it is to be commended.

I think you fail to realize that a Prophet of God shouldn't be practicing Slavery & having sex slaves.

In the modern context thats like saying, a Mexican migrant shouldn't be employed and should get at least the minimum wage. Yet along comes a man who in the modern equivalent encourages social acceptance of migrants and also does link good deeds to better wages and even advocates the social status and access to what other citizens have be equivalent once they are relieved from migrant status. LOL. Like I said, keep imposing a 2016 context onto 632 roach boy, maybe your antennae will guide you in the right direction through the crap pile that is your existence. looool.

If you can't understand that then it your brain that is truly damaged.

Says the guy that is a random non fact generator. Sh-it, how dumb are you? Reaching for the Romans as your example? Its like your back is permanently arched to even historically incorrectly bend over for the white men with aquiline noses.

"False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

Roaches like you don't have character. They simply exist and do what their single neuron brains demand of them - eat sh-it and make sh-it and spread disease lool

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

Muhammad didn't invent the concept of Freeing Slaves that performed well.
Romans did it all the time.
Emancipating slaves doesn't forgive the fact that he and his followers practiced slavery.

Lincoln & the events in Ferguson have nothing to do with Muhammad's actions.


I think you fail to realize that a Prophet of God shouldn't be practicing Slavery & having sex slaves.

If you can't understand that then it your brain that is truly damaged.

"False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

You are a good example of this.

By the way Roachling, refer to page 146 in Swan's book on Dio's history of that Roman law August passed limiting manumission. Cheers! I am providing you reading material well above the computer turtle/zit addled face / Roach status you live in day in and out

https://books.google.com/books?id=26s6CG8LffsC&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=augustus+slaves+30+Lex+Aelia+Sentia&source=bl&ots=17wtVyRwqF&sig=UkIDDvqYUd3D-WT6CASQvJiR4JE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi89NePu5vMAhUM6CYKHWgJCUgQ6AEIIDAC#v=onepage&q=augustus%20slaves%2030%20Lex%20Aelia%20Sentia&f=false

[Damir9000]

Again, Thanks BarakzaiAbdali.

For confirming Muhammad's despicable past.
And exposing your view so openly.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Again, Thanks BarakzaiAbdali.

I appreciate the Thanks for your free education Dumbeer.

For confirming Muhammad's despicable past.

Looks like the Nature paper you were supposed to co- author isnt going to be accepted since you just disproved the hypothesis that Roachlings can learn two hominoid level facts per 100 attempts loooool.

And exposing your view so openly.

Nothing to "expose" Dumbeer. Roaches like you may live in the dark and worry about exposure... humans prefer the light of day!

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[Damir9000]

With Augustus limiting freedom BEFORE the age of 30, well in the old world with a life expectancy of 35 ... looooooool, such a giiiiift from the Romans whose dong you are riding (sarcasm).


I think you fail to realize that a Prophet of God shouldn't be practicing Slavery & having sex slaves.

In the modern context thats like saying, a Mexican migrant shouldn't be employed and should get at least the minimum wage. Yet along comes a man who in the modern equivalent encourages social acceptance of migrants and also does link good deeds to better wages and even advocates the social status and access to what other citizens have be equivalent once they are relieved from migrant status. LOL. Like I said, keep imposing a 2016 context onto 632 roach boy, maybe your antennae will guide you in the right direction through the crap pile that is your existence. looool.

Well, I never claimed the Romans were exemplary people on Moral grounds.
Nobody does.

If I am riding the Roman's dong. Are you riding Muhammad's dong?

Since we are talking about a man who was empowered by God.
Your example is quite bad.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Well, I never claimed the Romans were exemplary people on Moral grounds.
Nobody does.

LOL. You cannot claim because you didn't know what you were talking about. You threw out a red herring hoping that it was true and landed in a turd blossom because you were too dumb to look into it before stating your herring.

If I am riding the Roman's dong. Are you riding Muhammad's dong?

No, because you are a receiver kuni. The most well known "ex Muslim" receiver around I might add!

Since we are about a man who is being empowered by God.
Your example is quite bad.

Says the roach that would demand every one from Sargon the Great onward be subjected to a 2016 litmus test (who knows what the 2050 litmus test will be?). The example is a great one. Its just above your weight class Dumbeer! But keep at it. One day we, together, will cram fact 2 into that damaged brain of yours! In the mean time you just keep at it and keep upping the entertainment ante.

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[Damir9000]

Well, I never claimed the Romans were exemplary people on Moral grounds.
Nobody does.

LOL. You cannot claim because you didn't know what you were talking about. You threw out a red herring hoping that it was true and landed in a turd blossom because you were too dumb to look into it before stating your herring.

If I am riding the Roman's dong. Are you riding Muhammad's dong?

No, because you are a receiver kuni. The most well known "ex Muslim" receiver around I might add!

Since we are about a man who is being empowered by God.
Your example is quite bad.

Says the roach that would demand every one from Sargon the Great onward be subjected to a 2016 litmus test (who knows what the 2050 litmus test will be?). The example is a great one. Its just above your weight class Dumbeer! But keep at it. One day we, together, will cram fact 2 into that damaged brain of yours! In the mean time you just keep at it and keep upping the entertainment ante.

Yes. The Romans freed slaves. The concept isn't new.
Whether they did all the time wasn't the argument.
I never pushed them for being good moral people.
The point was that Muhammad did not bring anything new.

Making a gay jokes. Very mature.
How old are you?

Yes, Exactly.
I & many hold people in history to today's standards, especially if I am to follow them.
Many leaders don't past the test. But that's okay.
Because they are not examples for all of Humanity or pushed as being perfect human being.
And they were not Prophets of God.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Yes. The Romans freed slaves. The concept isn't new.
Whether they did all the time wasn't the argument.

Uh, you're glaringly retarded. You seem to forget or purposefully forget your own words. Manumission with good will and clearly not setting age demarcations alongside encouraging societal mobility far far far exceeds "Roman manumission" at the end of one's relative life expectancy lol.

It was you that setup the illogical and comparison because your Roach brain can only make simplistic associations.

I never pushed them for being good moral people.
The point was that Muhammad did not bring anything new.

Ibid per above

Making a gay jokes. Very mature.
How old are you?

Jokes? Or facts? Roaches and their illogic don't merit maturity.

Yes, Exactly.
I & many do hold people to today's standards.

Roaches produce quickly - its how they survive through the eons. The point you are not getting is that even objectively by today's standards with folks who do not have a vested interest like Gibbons, or adversarial types like Rodinson - your contentions with Muhammad would be laughable in any academic circle especially in light of the manumission advances he made in a 20 year career.

Many leaders don't past the test. But that's okay.
Because they are not examples for all of Humanity or pushed as being perfect human being.

I told you, Roaches need not worry about what the perfect and imperfect human being is and was. GO back to the prior posts and you can re-refer to this discussion we already had. Launching and re- launching the same herring that I get rid of like clay pigeons wont make the point true via repetition.

And they were not Prophets of God.

No Dumbeer, they certainly were not, just as we keep saying you are not an informed or even intelligent human being. But thats OK. Its a bell curve life right? Some of us fall on the higher end of the spectrum and some of us like you approach Trisomy 21 level.

Just as Christ was perfectly validated in overt turning the money lenders tables and making the point of driving them out of the temple with a cord, the moral example and the man analyzed in his times makes his example... well, lol, timeless.

Its OK man, one day Roaches will progress to standing on 2 feet and not crawling through manure. If I am around for that I will tell them to not judge you too harshly either.

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