Jamiate Shaitani's Mullah Hanafi claims men can rape their wives

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I guess Allah made a mistake.

No man, sort of like how Shakespeare had his villains and half wits - the grandest author of all decided a roach brain had a role, after all, in this greatest of plays! I view it as divine creativity and a sense of humor in the creator.

[Damir9000]

I know Muhammad didn't have many redeeming qualities, but if you're going to give him the title of "prophet of God", you shouldn't be comparing him to a person with no holy attributes in the form of Thomas Jefferson.



So Allah allows Muhammad to have multiple concubines but forgets to tell him to free slaves? Sounds like somebody has got their priorities mixed.



Yes, we're aware of Muslims practicing slavery in recent times, just look at ISIS. Just look at the country with the highest percentage of slaves, Mali, a Muslim country.



What if those slaves still wanted to be free? Would it be "cool" to own them?

His whole argument is that it was an acceptable thing at the time & the economy was dependent on it.

He forgets that Muhammad was suppose to be a Holy Prophet of God and an example to follow for humankind for all time.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I know Muhammad didn't have many redeeming qualities,

LOOOL. Coming from dip sh-it who is chasing windmills (i.e. building a secular atheist Pashtun disney land called Azad Pashtunistan) I'd be careful regarding who has redeeming qualities and who is a waste of sperm

but if you're going to give him the title of "prophet of God", you shouldn't be comparing him to a person with no holy attributes in the form of Thomas Jefferson.

Great leaders are great leaders, even Putin has leadership qualities that have to be realistically assessed and will be by objective historians so you are wrong there.

So Allah allows Muhammad to have multiple concubines but forgets to tell him to free slaves?

Huh? There are countless verses encouraging slave manumission and countless traditions of the Prophet celebrating that act. Wow, you're even dumber than the past commies that have failed here. This should be easy pickings.

Sounds like somebody has got their priorities mixed.

LOL. You mean like someone who has a flag of a nonexistent place with nonexistent qualities that his recent heroes have failed to impose on a severely traditional and religion bound people (Pashtuns)? Yeah, sounds like someone does have their priorities all in a disarray looool.

Yes, we're aware of Muslims practicing slavery in recent times, just look at ISIS. Just look at the country with the highest percentage of slaves, Mali, a Muslim country.

And? Nation states have various histories. East Ukraine in a state of war, depending on how long it lasts and various parts of the Eastern block are developmentally stunted and slow because of what they went through and endured. Given the right amount of progress things change. Whats amazing is that even in a patriarchal society in 632 CE without those ingredients a group of people arose that were so much smarter than your heroes.

What if those slaves still wanted to be free? Would it be "cool" to own them?

Manumission is encouraged and if a leader and a state pass an emancipation the general doctrine is that if a leader establishes law, order, and doesn't obstruct practice of the faith that you have to observe these principles and laws.

Whats not cool is Pashtun wannabe Don Quixote chasing non existent concepts all his life on the internet. I find it entertaining and look forward to watching you struggle and struggle while accomplishing not even a 1/1000 of what you set out to do much less 1/1,000,000,000 of what the Prophet Mohammad did

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[BarakzaiAbdali]

His whole argument is that it was an acceptable thing at the time & the economy was dependent on it.

Not merely that, the whole social structure of the WORLD as we showed above with the reference to Byzantium and similar info exists for the Chinese and the Persians incorporated it. The goings on of making a capture slave your name honored son and the concept of linking good deeds to manumission was unheard of except as I said in the case of Cyrus of Persia.

He forgets that Muhammad was suppose to be a Holy Prophet of God and an example to follow for humankind for all time.

And so it is and will be. Unfortunately Cockroaches and dung beetles like you two don't have messengers ... so you'll just have to take direction from the human ones lol.

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[Damir9000]

Not merely that, the whole social structure of the WORLD as we showed above with the reference to Byzantium and similar info exists for the Chinese and the Persians incorporated it. The goings on of making a capture slave your name honored son and the concept of linking good deeds to manumission was unheard of except as I said in the case of Cyrus of Persia.


And so it is and will be. Unfortunately Cockroaches and dung beetles like you two don't have messengers ... so you'll just have to take direction from the human ones lol.

Thanks for making it clear that Muhammad was just another tyrant in history.

[Damir9000]

Sex slaves? You must have read to many orientalist literature.

BarakzaiAbdali confirms it.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Thanks for making it clear that Muhammad was just another tyrant in history.

No no Bobby D Wannabe, you still fail for reading comprehension lol. Go back and try again. Now I know it was probably an act of "tyranny" when you had to get bathroom trained and then the fact that you can't come to work smelling like sh-it... But sometimes cockroaches like you need directives and directions. Otherwise, like I said, one day the world wakes up and reads about a deviant like you locking some chick in a pit in his basement muttering "it puts the lotion on the skin."

[Damir9000]

No no Bobby D Wannabe, you still fail for reading comprehension lol. Go back and try again. Now I know it was probably an act of "tyranny" when you had to get bathroom trained and then the fact that you can't come to work smelling like sh-it... But sometimes cockroaches like you need directives and directions. Otherwise, like I said, one day the world wakes up and reads about a deviant like you locking some chick in a pit in his basement muttering "it puts the lotion on the skin."

No that's what you said.
You excused Muhammad because everybody else was doing it.

Bobby D Wannabe? lol

[BarakzaiAbdali]

No that's what you said.
You excused Muhammad because everybody else was doing it.

Excused a world wide accepted behavior for which he was far more progressive on and improved the status of hundreds of thousands in his own life? LOL. Whats to excuse. Who I dont excuse is the doctor that salvaged a brain dead roach offspring named Damir9000.

Bobby D Wannabe? lol

Like I said, you're more a Keith Richards type of freak show but itll have to do for now

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[Damir9000]

Excused a world wide accepted behavior for which he was far more progressive on and improved the status of hundreds of thousands in his own life? LOL. Whats to excuse. Who I dont excuse is the doctor that salvaged a brain dead roach offspring named Damir9000.

Nobody is excusing what happened in the past. People are actually ashamed of it.

Muhammad didn't improve anybody's life but his own and Slavery still continued after his death.

[Damir9000]

DW S16 : Q11. Man can have sex with slave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNpdUVHSlbg

Sheikh Yusuf Estes calling it okay & making excuses.

[Sarbani]

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If people start calling Putin a holy messenger of God for an example of all of mankind to follow, then we'll bring up his invasion of Ukraine to disprove them.

If people start calling Thomas Jefferson a holy messenger of God for all of mankind to follow, then we'll bring up his past of owning slaves to disprove them.

Mormons give some power hungry deceitful snake with many wives (similar to Muhammad) a holy status and their leader and religion has been criticized immensely on the topic.

Since Muslims think Muhammad was a holy messenger of God with no imperfect actions, then he shouldn't be owning slaves or concubines or being a megalomaniac warlord. He can be just remembered as a man of history similar to Thomas Jefferson without being considered a prophet.

Understand?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Nobody is excusing what happened in the past.

LOL. Roaches need not excuse or worry about excusing what "happened in the past" on their terms. You just worry about finding some stool to crawl through.

People are actually ashamed of it.

Of what? To the contrary people are applauding it.

Muhammad didn't improve anybody's life

Well, roaches have existed for millenia with generally the same quality of life - so in that vein yes you and yours lives did not change by much. But thats inherent to your role

but his own and Slavery still continued after his death.

Establishing the foundation for something good is an accomplishment. Christ did the same with his example and so on and so forth. Racism and actual all out slavery also did not end with Lincoln's emancipation proclamation. And as we can see from Ferguson that process is still a work in progress.

Don't worry one day pinhead roach hybrids like you will have their rights too. lol.

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[Sarbani]

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That was just a big wall of ad hominem. You just called him a roach without trying to disprove him.

And owning slaves is "establishing the foundation for something good"? You do realize all slaves are slaves against their will? Owning them is not a good thing. Jesus never owned any slaves.

[Damir9000]

Establishing the foundation for something good is an accomplishment. Christ did the same with his example and so on and so forth. Racism and actual all out slavery also did not end with Lincoln's emancipation proclamation. And as we can see from Ferguson that process is still a work in progress.

Don't worry one day pinhead roach hybrids like you will have their rights too. lol.

What foundation? What accomplishment?
Muhammad practiced slavery & so did his successors.
Many Islamic leaders continued to do it through history.

How are Lincoln & Ferguson relevant to this topic?