India, Pakistan and Bangladesh can become a 'federation': Ram Vilas Paswan

[Friends of Baloch]

Pakistani idea was not right for couple of reasons.

It was not right for any reason. It is the sh*ttest idea for a country along with Israel. Both being British conspiracies against the Muslim world.

[tilla_jogian]

LOL why is this stinking paki trying to talk smack about his fellow Dalits? First of all Bundjab is the land with historically the biggest demographics and population of "low castes" in entire Indian history which is attested in both Hindu and British historical documents.

Second of all Bundjab is the only province of pakistan to freely and whole heartedly embrace the Urdu language imported to them from north-central India while Baloch, Pashtun, Sindhi and Bangali all rejected it and have been struggling against it. Bangali actually fighting against Urdu language of "Bhaiyas"until liberation of their land while Bundjabi cultural weaklings give up their language for Urdu for free, lool.

So dont run your sh*tty trap when your daal khor people have already officially accepted their cultural and linguistic inferiority to @Karachi by embracing his Urdu language over your own native Dalit tongue aka punjabi language which is the most retarded and sh*ttest sounding of all Dalit languages.

Here typical punjabi dalit kids of napakistan singing in their ugly punjabi language: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2fsdcw I can understand why these Dalit poopjab people want to quietly ditch punjabi for Urdu, which sounds only mildly better, but not by much.

Dude the you the **** is wrong with you, lanti african baloch like you should be deported back to Africa. Yes there are dalits in punjab, likely up to 20-25% and they work like muslims of UP/Bihar from where muhajirs escaped. But most are not dalits, at least not where I am from and I can back up with British sources. Stop lying.

West punjab was muslim majority even before British. The reason there are so many hindus is because they include Haryana, Himachal, delhi etc in it which are still hindu majority even today. This is common knowledge but you are low brow african baloch trash. Go back to your land bandar ki gandi nasal. Gorilla ****ed bandari and african baloch was born, never forget your roots.

[tilla_jogian]

Totally agree.

Plus Baloch and Pakhtuns are Iranic races that are linguistically and racially part of south-west Asia and more similar to Kurds than Bengalis or Tamils. This is a reality which has to be accepted.

"Pakistaniyaat" involves an Iranic Baloch or Pakhtun artificially orientating himself culturally eastwards towards India and racially/genetically very different peoples whilst distancing themselves from their Iranic roots.

It is like Bengalis, Marathis or Tamils trying to orientate themselves towards the Mongoloid world and neglecting their Indic origin and reality.

People need to live in reality and not in fantasy.

Dude baloch blood is deluted with african monkey nasal, for Iranians even Sistan is part of south asia. Ask any of them. Rest of baloch are dravidians, the only dravidians in Pakistan. Why Iran will want them? lol at iranic race. Tell that to mongoloid nasal of central asians that they are aryan/iranic race and lets us laugh.

[Friends of Baloch]

Dude the you the **** is wrong with you, lanti african baloch like you should be deported back to Africa. Yes there are dalits in punjab, likely up to 20-25% and they work like muslims of UP/Bihar from where muhajirs escaped. But most are not dalits, at least not where I am from and I can back up with British sources. Stop lying.

West punjab was muslim majority even before British. The reason there are so many hindus is because they include Haryana, Himachal, delhi etc in it which are still hindu majority even today. This is common knowledge but you are low brow african baloch trash. Go back to your land bandar ki gandi nasal. Gorilla ****ed bandari and african baloch was born, never forget your roots.

Id rather be an African than a smelly paki like you. Whats wrong with Africans? Nothing. They are an enormous continent of equally enormous diversity of tribes and history. You on the other hand are just a demented Hindu Dalit convert with a chip on his shoulder about being a genetic loser from a cultural backwater that had to adopt another peoples language (Urdu) to make you feel like you have a history and identity because your own genuine history and identity (Punjabi) sucks so bad and is devoid of any cultural achievements of its own (even the name Punjab is foreign imposed on you by Moghals) that you really dont have a clue about who and what you are and the little that you do know (being a low caste convert) makes you deeply ashamed of the truth and so you lie and try to bad mouth others to cover up your own insecurity and inferiority complex.

This sums up the mental state of every single punjabi.

Dont try to diss Africans, you pakis cant match them at all.

[Karachi]

What do Mohajirs feel about Pakistan?

Do they regret it?

I know most do love Pakistan and wish it could be a country that they could be proud of and deep inside regard as one where they are equal citizens, but I'm not sure most think they are equal citizens.

Is it true they're looked down upon by Punjabis, Pathans including for their "dark skin"?

It's a long complicated issue.

Since muhajirs were one of the founders of Pakistan, they obviously have some natural attachment to it, despite all the wrongs with the country. And when I say attachment, I am mainly talking about attachment to city of Karachi, where 90% of muhajirs live. However despite attachment, majority of muhajirs are not blind nationalists like many punjabis, punjabi nationalists are on different level completely who make claim to baluchistan, Fata as their own land. You wont really see most muhajirs talking like that. We have our nationalist crazies like MQM, which are no good, we have lots of internal issues, but they are mainly locally in Karachi and not on a national level.

As for equal citizen, outside Karachi no, not at all. If anyone finds out your a muhajir outside Karachi, most likely you will get some racist verbal assaults, that happened to my dad who lived in Lahore in his youth, thats why he often lied about his ethnicity, saying he was a local Lahorie, luckily his punjabi language had become good, so most of the times people didn't become suspicious. I know muhajirs who live in Punjab and other areas, who hide their background all the time

As for darkskin racism, yes that is a major issue in all of Pakistan, fairer people dislike darkskinned people. Muhajirs, Sindhis, Bengalis, some (Balochis), darker skinned punjabis, all are disliked. But muhajirs are specifically picked for it since they are outsiders. Even the "so called" great Imran Khan made fun of darkskin muhajirs in a speech once if you remember.

[tilla_jogian]

Id rather be an African than a smelly paki like you. Whats wrong with Africans? Nothing. They are an enormous continent of equally enormous diversity of tribes and history. You on the other hand are just a demented Hindu Dalit convert with a chip on his shoulder about being a genetic loser from a cultural backwater that had to adopt another peoples language (Urdu) to make you feel like you have a history and identity because your own genuine history and identity (Punjabi) sucks so bad and is devoid of any cultural achievements of its own (even the name Punjab is foreign imposed on you by Moghals) that you really dont have a clue about who and what you are and the little that you do know (being a low caste convert) makes you deeply ashamed of the truth and so you lie and try to bad mouth others to cover up your own insecurity and inferiority complex.

This sums up the mental state of every single punjabi.

Dont try to diss Africans, you pakis cant match them at all.

I am not dissing africans but african baloch and dravidian baloch like you who is wannabe be aryan. Iranians **** your better half in sistan, one can only imagine what they will do to african and dravidian baloch of Pakistan.

Will you deny your dravidian and african heritage even if you now speak west iranic language because of few kurds migrants? Get your self tested and see it for your self, you have deeply self hating issues.

[Karachi]

Dude baloch blood is deluted with african monkey nasal, for Iranians even Sistan is part of south asia. Ask any of them. Rest of baloch are dravidians, the only dravidians in Pakistan. Why Iran will want them? lol at iranic race. Tell that to mongoloid nasal of central asians that they are aryan/iranic race and lets us laugh.

Look at this morons racism, he thinks africans, dravidians are monkeys, yet he doesn't realize punjab is also mostly considered Dravidian

[Bengal_Tiger]

It's a long complicated issue.

Since muhajirs were one of the founders of Pakistan, they obviously have some natural attachment to it, despite all the wrongs with the country. And when I say attachment, I am mainly talking about attachment to city of Karachi, where 90% of muhajirs live. However despite attachment, majority of muhajirs are not blind nationalists like many punjabis, punjabi nationalists are on different level completely who make claim to baluchistan, Fata as their own land. You wont really see most muhajirs talking like that. We have our nationalist crazies like MQM, which are no good, we have lots of internal issues, but they are mainly locally in Karachi and not on a national level.

As for equal citizen, outside Karachi no, not at all. If anyone finds out your a muhajir outside Karachi, most likely you will get some racist verbal assaults, that happened to my dad who lived in Lahore in his youth, thats why he often lied about his ethnicity, saying he was a local Lahorie, luckily his punjabi language had become good, so most of the times people didn't become suspicious. I know muhajirs who live in Punjab and other areas, who hide their background all the time

As for darkskin racism, yes that is a major issue in all of Pakistan, fairer people dislike darkskinned people. Muhajirs, Sindhis, Bengalis, some (Balochis), darker skinned punjabis, all are disliked. But muhajirs are specifically picked for it since they are outsiders. Even the "so called" great Imran Khan made fun of darkskin muhajirs in a speech once if you remember.

I really didn't know the situation was that bad, especially considering you have some very hardcore nationalistic Pakistanis online who are Mohajir.

On the other hand I also read stuff online from Mohajirs sympathizing with Bengalis and admiring us for our military success in 1971, and even some Mohajirs saying that they felt they were almost like the Palestinians, "stateless".

Me and you have both lived the bitter reality of the Muslim world which is far removed from the romanticized image of universal brotherhood and love (which is how it should be but isn't) but involves discrimination and injustice. I feel sorry for Mohajirs.

P.S. Imran Khan is a moron.

[tilla_jogian]

Look at this morons racism, he thinks africans, dravidians are monkeys, yet he doesn't realize punjab is also mostly considered Dravidian

Thats why Pakistanis will not let dravidian Balochistan part away no matter what. We are not Iranic, but africans baloch will be deported back to Africa.

[Friends of Baloch]

I am not dissing africans but african baloch and dravidian baloch like you who is wannabe be aryan. Iranians **** your better half in sistan, one can only imagine what they will do to african and dravidian baloch of Pakistan.

Will you deny your dravidian and african heritage even if you now speak west iranic language because of few kurds migrants? Get your self tested and see it for your self, you have deeply self hating issues.

You are still talking about Dravidians this and that as if it is a bad thing but you pakis are the biggest of all raped Dravidians and low caste Hindu converts who just cant admit it to yourselves so think that by denying it and projecting it onto others you are freeing yourselves of this truth about your roots.

You fail to see why you're being called out on that and think that by throwing the word Hindu or Dravidian around that you are insulting others but when you do so you are no different from when one Black man calls another a n*gger (note the .er as opposed to .a) lol.

So stupid. All of you pakis (punjabis).

[tilla_jogian]

You are still talking about Dravidians this and that as if it is a bad thing but you pakis are the biggest of all raped Dravidians and low caste Hindu converts who just cant admit it to yourselves so think that by denying it and projecting it onto others you are freeing yourselves of this truth about your roots.

You fail to see why you're being called out on that and think that by throwing the word Hindu or Dravidian around that you are insulting others but when you do so you are no different from when one Black man calls another a n*gger (note the .er as opposed to .a) lol.

So stupid. All of you pakis (punjabis).

Sorry but I don't understand, its you who despite being of african and dravidian heritage insult us. I just responded back that Baloch Dravidians are integral part of indus valley but african baloch will be deported back to Africa.

Is there anything wrong with it? African baloch can go back to africa or move to Iran if they let iranic speaking africans in.

[tilla_jogian]

I really didn't know the situation was that bad, especially considering you have some very hardcore nationalistic Pakistanis online who are Mohajir.

On the other hand I also read stuff online from Mohajirs sympathizing with Bengalis and admiring us for our military success in 1971, and even some Mohajirs saying that they felt they were almost like the Palestinians, "stateless".

Me and you have both lived the bitter reality of the Muslim world which is far removed from the romanticized image of universal brotherhood and love (which is how it should be but isn't) but involves discrimination and injustice. I feel sorry for Mohajirs.

P.S. Imran Khan is a moron.

First of all why would you take opinion of harami Indian UP pathan? He has never set foot anywhere in Pakistan. Biharis and UP walas are not discriminated in punjab. In fact some of them were given lands after parition in punjab. Can you imagine low caste dalit suddenly becoming land holder because of just being muslim migrant from India?

They are ungreateful bunch.

[asif86]

Look at this morons racism, he thinks africans, dravidians are monkeys, yet he doesn't realize punjab is also mostly considered Dravidian

I dont agree with dravidian theory.About 70% of Pakistanis are Caucasoid by race, 20% Australoid- Negroid, and 10% Mongoloid in their overall genetic composition. Majority of Pakistanis are tall with fair skin complexion, similar to Middle Eastern and Mediterranean peoples. While the racial features of each ethnic group are not uniform, Pashtuns are the most Caucasoid, followed by Kashmiris, Baluchis, north Punjabis, and then Sindhis, Seraikis, Urdu-speakers, etc. The Australoid-Negroid and Mongoloid racial elements are quite infused within the dominant Caucasoid genes among Pakistanis, however there are some that have retained their distinct racial characteristics.

Pakistanis are a blend of their Harappan, Aryan, Persian, Greek, Saka, Parthian, Kushan, White Hun, Arab, Turkic, Afghan, and Mughal heritage. Waves of invaders and migrants settled down in Pakistan through out the centuries, influencing the locals and being absorbed among them.

Most Indians are a blend of their heritage of Dravidoid-Australoid hunters and gatherers, and Aryans (in north). Northwest Indians have a heritage from Harappans, Aryans, Sakas, and White Huns. Northeast Indians have a heritage based from Mongoloid hunters and gatherers. Also, Turks, Afghans and Mughals ruled north India for centuries.

[asif86]

As for equal citizen, outside Karachi no, not at all. If anyone finds out your a muhajir outside Karachi, most likely you will get some racist verbal assaults, that happened to my dad who lived in Lahore in his youth, thats why he often lied about his ethnicity, saying he was a local Lahorie, luckily his punjabi language had become good, so most of the times people didn't become suspicious. I know muhajirs who live in Punjab and other areas, who hide their background all the time

The mohajirs who migrated to punjab mostly integrated with local population and lost their distinct identity.How come mohajirs in punjab never voted MQM.When PPP was in power people from karachi started migrating to punjab because the ethnic-political turf wars were out of control.

[Friends of Baloch]

Majority of Pakistanis are tall with fair skin complexion, similar to Middle Eastern and Mediterranean peoples.

Pakistanis are a blend of their Harappan, Aryan, Persian, Greek, Saka, Parthian, Kushan, White Hun, Arab, Turkic, Afghan, and Mughal heritage. Waves of invaders and migrants settled down in Pakistan through out the centuries, influencing the locals and being absorbed among them.