Pakistani Minister among 13 killed in suicide

[tilla_jogian]

Moron, Hindkis doesnt necessarily mean Hindko speakers of Peshawar or Hazara. In Pashtun society, they were serfs and all of them speak Pashto........they were conquered people. In Mughal times, walled peshwer city was also Hindko but Big chunk of Hindko speakers came to Peshawer city and Kohat city from Punjab with Ranjeet Sikh forces. Thats why you have Kiyanais in Peshawer. These Hindkowans of Peshawer city are different from those hindkis, the descendants of Gandhara civilzation, who were reduced to serfdom by Pashtuns centuries ago. Sikhs didnt allow Pashtuns in the city, and settled Sikhs as well as Punjabi muslaman. These newcomers merged with already existing Hindko population of the city. Some Hindkowans are very old, e.g you will find even Hindkown with barlas roots in Peshawer. Then there are those who settled in Peshawer during Durrani times e.g those who trace their roots from Kashmir. And a big chunk of them came with Ranjeet Singh army in including Sikhs......thats why you will find Sikhs in old Hindko areas of Peshawar .

The entire rural area of Peshawar is inhabited by Pashtun tribes since centuries, they were not interested in living inside the walled city.

You are dumb by even afghani standard. These hindko speak language which different then one spoken around area from where Ranjeet came from. Last time I checked hazara people are not really in to serf dom of pashtuns. Yeah kammi like population exist in every corner and they speak language similar to zamindars. So these serfs are basically pashtun themselves. Sikhs in peshawar are hindko speaking khatris, thats it if they speak hindko and not pashto by now.

[Samandri]

I will not brag about being converted first before others, but he is like that. He also deny obvious origin of his tribe lohani. I mean name can be coincidence but how the f both hindu and their pakhtun counterpart are known for same exact profession? He is basically assimilated sindhi hindu of merchant class.

Pashtun Lohani was/is not merchant caste of Veshyas. They along with Lodis and Ghilzais were nomads, who move between central asia and India in the form of caravans and in the process would carry out the trade. Their main profession was always soldiery. All Afghans in India were indulged in trade beside soldiery. E.g rohillas were famous for trade of horses and many of them arrived in Rohilkhand as traders.

Now tell me genius , how exactly cousins of lodis/lohanis, the ghilzais are related to your lohana kin?

[Samandri]

You are dumb by even afghani standard. These hindko speak language which different then one spoken around area from where Ranjeet came from. Last time I checked hazara people are not really in to serf dom of pashtuns. Yeah kammi like population exist in every corner and they speak language similar to zamindars. So these serfs are basically pashtun themselves. Sikhs in peshawar are hindko speaking khatris, thats it if they speak hindko and not pashto by now.

Moron, most of the Punjabis along with Sikhs came from Potohar region as well as from Hazara, they were not soldiers so why they would be from Ranjeet Singh's home town.?

[Samandri]

. Last time I checked hazara people are not really in to serf dom of pashtuns. .

Hazara was never conquered by Pashtuns on scale of Peshawer valley. All the Pathan tribes in Hazara, arrived there in 18th century, population-wise they are minority, check 1901 census.within a Mashwani village or jadoon, serfs are non-pashtuns, the low-castes from previous land-holders. Akhund Derweza mentions the reduction of aborigins , the hindkis, to serfdom by yusufzais.

[tilla_jogian]

Pashtun Lohani was/is not merchant caste of Veshyas. They along with Lodis and Ghilzais were nomads, who move between central asia and India in the form of caravans and in the process would carry out the trade. Their main profession was always soldiery. All Afghans in India were indulged in trade beside soldiery.

Now tell me genius , how exactly cousins of lodis/lohanis, the ghilzais are related to your lohana kin?

Ghilzai turks are late comers, no idea why you are associating lohani with them. Lodhi is mystery tribe, likely hindu converts because they don't exist among afghanis but do among hindus.

Lohani were known for being of merchant class, both pakhtun and hindu ones. Lohani were assimlated likely among ghilzai turks because you claim kinship with them. Lohani hindus are not vasiyas but outcastes/shudras. But now associated with being merchants.

Even some lohani pashtun don't deny this fact, he is likely not to bothered by it like you LOL

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=366151403465246&id=128027883944267

We know at this point people claim about their non-hindu past cannot be taken seriously. Just that in your case its hindu origin from sindh.

[tilla_jogian]

Moron, most of the Punjabis along with Sikhs came from Potohar region as well as from Hazara, they were not soldiers so why they would be from Ranjeet Singh's home town.?

Dumb afghani why would ranjeet singh bring with him potoharis and hazaras muslims to settle in Peshawar?

[Samandri]

Dumb afghani why would ranjeet singh bring with him potoharis and hazaras muslims to settle in Peshawar?

Because your Punjabi musalman were servants of Sikhs. Sikhs had mostly confined themselves to soldiery, they needed subservient servants to run the city surrounded by hostile Pashtun population

[Samandri]

Ghilzai turks are late comers, no idea why you are associating lohani with them. Lodhi is mystery tribe, likely hindu converts because they don't exist among afghanis but do among hindus.

Lohani were known for being of merchant class, both pakhtun and hindu ones. Lohani were assimlated likely among ghilzai turks because you claim kinship with them. Lohani hindus are not vasiyas but outcastes/shudras. But now associated with being merchants.

Even some lohani pashtun don't deny this fact, he is likely not to bothered by it like you LOL

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...28027883944267


We know at this point people claim about their non-hindu past cannot be taken seriously. Just that in your case its hindu origin from sindh.

Well he copied pasted stuff from Wikipedia. Using your dumb logic, Rohilla Afghans are converts from Rohilla Rajputs. Both live in same Rohilkhand but claim different histories.

Ghilzais are cousins of Lodis/Niazis/Lohanis and they are not Turks.

Why you Punjabis are ashamed of your Hindu roots?. I mean your homey Redandwhite took offense when i said that Punjabis have habit of using word pathan because of their hindu past

[tilla_jogian]

Because your Punjabi musalman were servants of Sikhs. Sikhs had mostly confined themselves to soldiery, they needed subservient servants to run the city surrounded by hostile Pashtun population

Not true at all, you are making up stuff. Baniya people like you were always known to be cunning types. In city Peshawar few punjabis likely migrated after British empire, like that famous Kapoors from Faisalabad migrated to Peshawar.

[Samandri]

Not true at all, you are making up stuff. Baniya people like you were always known to be cunning types. In city Peshawar few punjabis likely migrated after British empire, like that famous Kapoors from Faisalabad migrated to Peshawar.

Yea keep cracking theories like that, e.g Pashtuns are from Baniya caste of Hindus because they are soodkhor?

The point remains, you people do not even have the decency to use the proper word for your countrymen, pakistani Pakhtuns and insist on using Hindu word pathan yet always bring argument of Pathans twice in numbers in pak than afghanistan

[tilla_jogian]

Well he copied pasted stuff from Wikipedia. Using your dumb logic, Rohilla Afghans are converts from Rohilla Rajputs. Both live in same Rohilkhand but claim different histories.

Ghilzais are cousins of Lodis/Niazis/Lohanis and they are not Turks.

Why you Punjabis are ashamed of your Hindu roots?. I mean your homey Redandwhite took offense when i said that Punjabis have habit of using word pathan because of their hindu past

When I was ashamed of my hindu past? Did you see me claiming fake arab decent anywhere? Stop making up stuff to hide your complex lohani hindu. Ghilzais are turks and had nothing to do with lohanis, as I said your sindhi hindu ancestors assimilated among ghilzai turks and started to identify with them by making some mythical story.

Actual history and common sense say you are sindhi hindu origin lohani. We know rohillah are UP pathans, enough proof exist because we are talking about few century old history here. Just like we know about your hindu ancestors.

[tilla_jogian]

Yea keep cracking theories like that, e.g Pashtuns are from Baniya caste of Hindus because they are soodkhor?

The point remains, you people do not even have the decency to use the proper word for your countrymen, pakistani Pakhtuns and insist on using Hindu word pathan yet always bring Pathans twice in numbers in pak than afghanistan

Again you are showing your cunning side, typical. Not pakhtuns but your lohani biraderi are hindu banya converts, I never mentioned pakhtuns anywhere. Pathan word is used by likes of Afridi and Imran Khan, at least they don't have origins in Sindh. You are self hater.

[Samandri]

Lohanas or Luvanas of Gujarat and Sindh are Veshiyas, that is they are of Dravidian origin.......Pashtuns are of Indo-iranian origin

Tilli Joian, dont be offended by your Hindu past, we were all once non-muslims. The reason why i bring it up, is to question the jazabat of you people for your indian kin

[tilla_jogian]

Lohanas or Luvanas of Gujarat and Sindh are Veshiyas, that is they are of Dravidian origin.......Pashtuns are of Indo-iranian origin

Tilli Joian, dont be offended by your Hindu past, we were all once non-muslims. The reason why i bring it up, is to question the jazabat of you people for your indian kin

Again your complex regarding your obvious lohani hindu past is showing, only idiot will deny some assimilation didn't happen. Pashtuns accept this fact but generarly avoid to name which tribes. In your case its obvious and you hate this fact.

I am not ashamed because I never claimed non-hindu past like you do another reason you hate it is because while lets say likes of Afridi tribe were non-muslim but natives of FATA. While your origin lies in Sindh among memon comunity who are lohani hindu converts.

[marwat]

lol ghaznavi ruled ur asses was not an afghan but a mamluk turk, similarly ghauri was neither an afghan but was a turk or eastern persian but had empire that engulfed ur lovely afghhanistan as well as pakistan.. u were slaves more than us.last abdali durrani ahmed shah was a pashtun and more pashtuns live in pak and are more pakistani than anything, i guess facebook twitter and youtube is enough to prove that for ur nationalists afghans..
Give this theory of Afghan kings to illetrate people not to the ones who have studied history. Instead of taking turkic or persian history make ur own first.
Regarding persian as national anthem, we dont call our self persians. u cal afghanistan as pashtun country and all ur official work is done in dari, shame on u whoever u r.

in Pakistan, Pashtuns are the most fmous community and in Afghanistan u have different names amongst other ethnic groups which i would not like to disclose.

Never give this Afghan king **** to anybody else.
by ur definition then all mughal kings exmple shah jahan was pakistani :p

yes all Mughal kings were indian except babar, no problem. but ghuri were ethnically Pashtun and ghaznavi were Afghan king who rose to throne from current day Afghanistan. their original homeland is in Afghanistan.
your imagination are very flawed, so suri from occupied Pakhtunkhwa is Pakistani? do you consider your dady father british before 1947? lol and ghaznavi from historical Afghanistan are Egyptian?
Afghanistan is always the historical homeland of Persian, turkic and Afghan. Afghanistan can claim turkic history more than anyone else.