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  • #46
    Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
    It seems to me , Pakistan leaders didnt think much about it, they needed an anti-hindu history and declared any one ideological hero of Pakistan who fought against Hindus. Pakistanis of young age are reading the history novels of Naseem Hijazi since 1950s, which glorify Muhammad bin Qasim, Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Tipu, Abdali etc. Now that the memories of bitter and bloody partition of 1947 are fading away, Punjabis ,Sindhis and Mohajirs are coming back to their natural indic jazbat and roots ."Pathans" of today and past are promoted as villains again, the trauma at the hands of TTP has inflicted more fears in them . Its not that Pashtuns are some Mongol hordes, but meek Sindhi or other indic gets a slap from Pashtun for his behavior and he cries for years about that. I was quite surprised to find that the greatest terror in the history of Sindh was apparently some Pashtun which they call by name "Madad Khan Pathan"....they have folk tales and songs about him that he devastated Sindh into ruins , depopulated and plundered it. It was unknown name for me, i did some searching and found out that he was actually sardar Madad Khan Nurzai, an officer of Timur Shah Durrani who was sent to help their Kalhora vassals in Sindh against Talpur usurpers. It was brief and relatively unimportant affair and was handled with just a small force of Afghans......but Buzdil Sindhi literature paint him as some unbeatable dark lord from mordor

    Sardar Madad Khan Nurzai? Pashtuns aren't called Sardars aswel are they?
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    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    • #47
      Who are these afghanis fooling here? One can't claim turkic, mongol, etc empires as their own. Afghanis were slaves of hindu shahis brahmins for centuries before turkic people pushed back hindu shahis and made afghanis their slaves. Abdali was slave of Nadir Shah, another turkic. As its often happen, slave after learning some tricks try to become master. Similar thing happened when mughal employed maratha soldiers, same people will turn against them later on.
      Best post in PF history
      [I]
      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
        Rednwhite if you had a turban in your picture you would be a stereotypical Sikh lol. Also whether you like it or not, they were afghan kings regardless of your claim of them belonging from other ethnicities, by nationality they were afghan, therefore your highest jewels that you brag about are all named after afghans, you disputing this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. Also the Pashtuns in Pakistan are waking up, how long you think they will accept being bombed by drones, less Pashtuns are joining the army because of its military role in khyberpakhtunkhwa, before people would brag about their sons being in the army, now they like to keep it quite because they get a lot of slack. You punjabis make jokes of the 'Pathan khansabs' and take advantage of their loyalty. I wouldn't be surprised if your country breaks into fragments soon.
        While he need turban to look sikh while you already look mongol no matter which getup thanks to Chenghez Khan
        Best post in PF history
        [I]
        ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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        • #49
          Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
          Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and is combination of historical regions of Roh (Pashtun country), Khorasan, Kabulistan, Turkestan and Badakhshan. The rule is simple, any dynasty and ruler with roots in present day pakistan belongs to history of Pakistan while any dyansty and ruler with roots in present day Afghanistan belongs to history of Afghanistan. So Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Samanid, Kushan , Arghuns etc all belongs to history of Afghanistan. Even Babur has more relevance to Afghanistan than India, he launched himself from Kabul which was under the rule of his ancestors since Amir Timur. Babur is national hero of Uzbekistan and is born in Kabul , the history of rest of Mughal rulers belong to India , not Pakistan. Babur and Timur were not Uzbeks yet they are celebrated as national heroes of Uzbekistan because they were from there.

          Pakistan also has some rulers. On the top of the list is Ranjeet Singh. You people should name a missile after him. Another is some Dacoit of Akbar times, Dullah Bhati. Another is Adina Beg, an arian peasant who became important in politics of Punjab and was friend of Sikhs and Marathas against Afghans. Those group of Khokars are also heroes of Pakistan who cowardly assassinated Muhammad Ghauri in the night of darkness when he was sleeping in his tent. A missile should also be named after Raja Dahir, the raja who married his sister.
          a big lol to ur concept of kingship. hahahah, thsi was the most looser explanation, history of a country seems ok but ghaznavi ghauri as afghan kinds lol hahaha, birth doesnt make one afghan lol. if that was the case the sher shah suri was born in sasaram can u change it on wikipedia he was indian, bahlol lodhi was born in multan so he is pakistani lol..
          Ghaznavi ruled Afghanistan he was turkic and his father was born in present kazakhstan.
          Ghurid was eastern persian so no relation to Afghanistan as at that time i m sure he didnt even know what Afghanistan was as it came in 1800s
          Babur was born in ferghana and was timurid mughal not afghan or kabulaye. he was not uzbek though celebrated as heroes. but anywhere does it mention that he was uzbek no, he is mentioned as chagtai turkic as he was mongol from his mother and timurid through his father .
          Abdali was born in multan so he shud be pakistani and i guess his info on wikipedia shud be edited , lol ur logic of giving citizenship is stupid and absurd.
          Ghaznavi Ghurid babur spoke language that is not indegenious to all present afghanistan so none was anything near to modern Afghan sense

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          • #50
            Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
            Punjabay, what has Sher Shah Suri any thing to do with you or Pakistan?. In your previous post you are not acknowledging heritage of history of rulers to Afghanistan just because they were not Pashtuns even though they were based in present day Afghanistan. Here you are trying to claim Sher Shah Suri. He was a Pashtun and was born in Bihar, India, so he belongs to history of pashtuns and history of India.

            Sher Shah conquered your Punjabistan and was cruel to your Ghakkar cousins of Potohar. And he had the plans of razing lahore to the ground. His another plan was to settle Pashtuns in Punjab like Rohilkhand to maintain Afghan lordship over Punjabi rajas and as a defense measure against Mughal invasion.
            lol looser i was teasing that guy but still truth hurts sher shah was born in sasaram with family from present pashtunhawa, read his poems he talks abt pashtunhawa not afghanistan lol which didnt even exist at that time. he is more closer to present pakistan. According to ur definition of kingship he should be pakistani lol hahah
            there is no such thing as indegenious history of afg.. all is based on ghaznavid ghurids etc which were not afghan, only hotakis were afghan

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            • #51
              Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
              Mr.Gujjar , Abdali was a better person and human being than your hero Ranjeet Singh. Ranjeet Singh hanged your ancestors for slaughtering the cows. He also saved your Hindostani kin from wrath of Marathas. Ranjeet Singh converted you people into vegetarians thats why we call you dhaalkhors.

              About the glorious Mughals. Well they clearly looked down upon you Punjabis. Your Punjabi ancestors were absent from Mughal nobility and military, it was dominated by Iranians, Turanis and Afghans. Funny that you are claiming them as yours. By the time mughals got urdu-ized, their empire had shrunken to the surroundings of Delhi.

              Afghans/Pashtuns have ruled over your Punjab for more than 200 years, before and after the Mughals. While your hero and ancestor Ranjeet Singh ruled Peshawar, Kohat and DI Khan for 2 decades. Our Khilji kings provided defence to your Punjabistan against Mongol raids while in the times of Mamluk Sultans, all the border forts in Punjab were garrisoned with Afghan soldiers for defense against Mongol invasions.
              have u ever read turkic theory of kingship, they use to give posts to noble births and the ones who were not noble births were treated as slaves. and you want to know who was the most top one among the non noble births, it was afghans, punjabis came later lol.
              Total Pashtun rule if you want to ask me was of sher shah suri but he was from pashtunhawa so he is closeer to present pakistan
              lodhi empire more closer to pashtunhawa as was born in multan
              and duraani was also born in multan so .

              There was no afghan rule actually it was pashtun rule and there are more pashtuns in pak then ur Afghanistan which is no sort of country but just a piece of land which does nothing except blame game

              Khiljis are turks, lol how do u make history up . now just becz khiljis at one time came from central asia and lived in present afghanistan made them impure and llbari turks the nobles use to look down upon them just because of the afghan culture that khiljis had adopted. finnaly then you can imagine how much they looked down upon ethnic afghans . teach bs to the ones who dont know history

              Similarly acc to ur logic as they ruled for 25 years allaudin was the strongest one and he was born in bengal so shud be bengali right.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                It seems to me , Pakistan leaders didnt think much about it, they needed an anti-hindu history and declared any one ideological hero of Pakistan who fought against Hindus. Pakistanis of young age are reading the history novels of Naseem Hijazi since 1950s, which glorify Muhammad bin Qasim, Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Tipu, Abdali etc. Now that the memories of bitter and bloody partition of 1947 are fading away, Punjabis ,Sindhis and Mohajirs are coming back to their natural indic jazbat and roots ."Pathans" of today and past are promoted as villains again, the trauma at the hands of TTP has inflicted more fears in them . Its not that Pashtuns are some Mongol hordes, but meek Sindhi or other indic gets a slap from Pashtun for his behavior and he cries for years about that. I was quite surprised to find that the greatest terror in the history of Sindh was apparently some Pashtun which they call by name "Madad Khan Pathan"....they have folk tales and songs about him that he devastated Sindh into ruins , depopulated and plundered it. It was unknown name for me, i did some searching and found out that he was actually sardar Madad Khan Nurzai, an officer of Timur Shah Durrani who was sent to help their Kalhora vassals in Sindh against Talpur usurpers. It was brief and relatively unimportant affair and was handled with just a small force of Afghans......but Buzdil Sindhi literature paint him as some unbeatable dark lord from mordor
                lol make up history, i just came to know u r luffy, i know in ur heart u know , u r spewing ns..write afghan with anything that u think is afghan, next moment that wil b reverted in wikipedia britania etc,,

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                  Rednwhite if you had a turban in your picture you would be a stereotypical Sikh lol. Also whether you like it or not, they were afghan kings regardless of your claim of them belonging from other ethnicities, by nationality they were afghan, therefore your highest jewels that you brag about are all named after afghans, you disputing this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. Also the Pashtuns in Pakistan are waking up, how long you think they will accept being bombed by drones, less Pashtuns are joining the army because of its military role in khyberpakhtunkhwa, before people would brag about their sons being in the army, now they like to keep it quite because they get a lot of slack. You punjabis make jokes of the 'Pathan khansabs' and take advantage of their loyalty. I wouldn't be surprised if your country breaks into fragments soon.
                  lol haha read my other posts, i am sure i am better looking than u looser. there ws no afghanistan before 1800s so nationality doesnt even exist but i advise u to read soem books

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    All the better, less civilian casualties and more politician casualties. win-win-win.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBO1_XBrbzQ
                    Not every politician is bad otherwise Shuja would still be alive.
                    Best post in PF history
                    [I]
                    ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                      lol make up history, i just came to know u r luffy, i know in ur heart u know , u r spewing ns..write afghan with anything that u think is afghan, next moment that wil b reverted in wikipedia britania etc,,
                      The guy claim everyone as afghan, he was proud of some hindu converts seraiki Langahs and claimed them to be afghans with dubious sources just because they once ruled Seraiki areas around Multan. He has even edited wikipedia on them, he is basically wiki historian.
                      Best post in PF history
                      [I]
                      ''Today the ideology of Pakistaniat within Pakistanis is so strong that even if world war 3 is fought within Pakistan boundries,Pakistan will survive.'' [/I]Da Bannu Mazdigar

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                        lol haha read my other posts, i am sure i am better looking than u looser. there ws no afghanistan before 1800s so nationality doesnt even exist but i advise u to read soem books
                        What makes you so sure?

                        Mr Paji soniyeh soniyeh saab they were called afghans even before 1800's, ethnic afghans from the same region as present day Afghanistan. Take your head out your ass and you'll realise it's not really that hard to understand.
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                        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                        Originally posted by Karachi
                        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                        • #57
                          Sikha Saab

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                          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                          Originally posted by Karachi
                          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                            Sikha Saab

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                            hahah thanx for taking so much tym out man,, u r being rewarded with the biggest looser stamp man

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                              a big lol to ur concept of kingship. hahahah, thsi was the most looser explanation, history of a country seems ok but ghaznavi ghauri as afghan kinds lol hahaha, birth doesnt make one afghan lol. if that was the case the sher shah suri was born in sasaram can u change it on wikipedia he was indian, bahlol lodhi was born in multan so he is pakistani lol..
                              Ghaznavi ruled Afghanistan he was turkic and his father was born in present kazakhstan.
                              Ghurid was eastern persian so no relation to Afghanistan as at that time i m sure he didnt even know what Afghanistan was as it came in 1800s
                              Babur was born in ferghana and was timurid mughal not afghan or kabulaye. he was not uzbek though celebrated as heroes. but anywhere does it mention that he was uzbek no, he is mentioned as chagtai turkic as he was mongol from his mother and timurid through his father .
                              Abdali was born in multan so he shud be pakistani and i guess his info on wikipedia shud be edited , lol ur logic of giving citizenship is stupid and absurd.
                              Ghaznavi Ghurid babur spoke language that is not indegenious to all present afghanistan so none was anything near to modern Afghan sense
                              Which means your Qaid-e-Azam is Ranjeet Singh from Jat clan

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                                lol haha read my other posts, i am sure i am better looking than u looser. there ws no afghanistan before 1800s so nationality doesnt even exist but i advise u to read soem books
                                Langahs were ashamed of their Jat roots and claimed to be Afghans......can you blame me for my mistake if they themselves were claiming to be Afghans?. When British were registering info on Castes, they noted that many Langahs are claiming Afghan roots. I mean Jat and Gujjar tag was not exactly inspiring awe.
                                Last edited by Samandri; 08-19-2015, 07:30 PM.

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