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  • #61
    Originally posted by tilla_jogian View Post
    The guy claim everyone as afghan, he was proud of some hindu converts seraiki Langahs and claimed them to be afghans with dubious sources just because they once ruled Seraiki areas around Multan. He has even edited wikipedia on them, he is basically wiki historian.
    i know him man,,he is no historian, he is sometimes marwt sometimes afghan sometimes persian and maybe i m sure on greek forums , he might be a greek or roman

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    • #62
      Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
      Which means your Qaid-e-Azam is Ranjeet Singh from Jat clan
      lol another bs

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      • #63
        Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
        lol looser i was teasing that guy but still truth hurts sher shah was born in sasaram with family from present pashtunhawa, read his poems he talks abt pashtunhawa not afghanistan lol which didnt even exist at that time. he is more closer to present pakistan. According to ur definition of kingship he should be pakistani lol hahah
        there is no such thing as indegenious history of afg.. all is based on ghaznavid ghurids etc which were not afghan, only hotakis were afghan
        Moron Sher Shah was not a poet. It was Ahmad Shah Abdali who has done poetry and mentioned word Pakhtunkhwa.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
          Langahs were ashamed of their Jat roots and claimed to be Afghans......can you blame me for my mistake if they themselves were claiming to be Afghans?. When British were registering info on Castes, they noted that many Langahs are claiming Afghan roots.
          two of my close frends are langahs and they are from multan and they are ashamed of u know what afghan refugees living in south punjab(once everybody loved afghans but now even pak pashtuns hate u because of what u all do on youtube facebook etc), the thing is that ferishta who was a historian made this ns claim
          [[Farishta]] is the authority for their Afghan origin which is doubtful to say the least. Pirzada Murad Baksh Bhutta of Multan says that Langah are Panwar [[Rajputs]] by origin. According to [[James Todd]], these Langah Rajputs were driven out by the Bhattis at least 700 years ago. Also Mirasis who keep a track of all the lineages have confirmed this Rajput origin. Other than these origins, some langahs also claim [[Arab]] descent and [[baloch people|Baloch]] descent. <ref>A Glossary of the tribes and castes of Punjab by H. A Rose</ref>
          Other than this Langahs are also classified in jatts in Mandi bahaudin, [[Multan]] Districts and [[Dera Ghazi Khan]] where they settled during Akbar's Reign. <ref>A Glossary of the tribes and castes of Punjab by H. A Rose</ref>
          In [[Montgomery District|Montgomery]] Langah are a part of [[Arain]] clan.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
            Moron Sher Shah was not a poet. It was Ahmad Shah Abdali who has done poetry and mentioned word Pakhtunkhwa.
            Sher shah also did poetry , not like khushal khan baba but he did,, i guess u need to go and look for his book in a good library in pak, Afghanistan dont own sher shah as he was indian lol hahah acc to ur logic

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            • #66
              Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
              lol another bs
              Whats the problem?. You yourself said that any one born in present day Pakistan is your baba. Beside he was your kin , although of different religion.

              Half of you punjabies are non-muslims, have you every thought about that?.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                Langahs were ashamed of their Jat roots and claimed to be Afghans......can you blame me for my mistake if they themselves were claiming to be Afghans?. When British were registering info on Castes, they noted that many Langahs are claiming Afghan roots. I mean Jat and Gujjar tag was not exactly inspiring awe.
                lol why dont u ask a pakistani pashtun that r u an afghan ,, the reply wud be i am not kabulaye..
                afghan title is v adorable to all of us pakistanis now

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                  Sher shah also did poetry , not like khushal khan baba but he did,, i guess u need to go and look for his book in a good library in pak, Afghanistan dont own sher shah as he was indian lol hahah acc to ur logic
                  Embarrassed to admit your mistake?........post some poetry of Sher Shah. (Moron dot embarrass yourself further).

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                    Whats the problem?. You yourself said that any one born in present day Pakistan is your baba. Beside he was your kin , although of different religion.

                    Half of you punjabies are non-muslims, have you every thought about that?.
                    i didnt say that . that stupid logic came from u, acc to u the ones that were born in prsent afghan region 2000 years ago are afghan lol

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                      lol why dont u ask a pakistani pashtun that r u an afghan ,, the reply wud be i am not kabulaye..
                      afghan title is v adorable to all of us pakistanis now
                      Every Pashtun is ethnically Afghan...........ask any Pashtun whether he prefer to be called himself Pathani, he would say No. You Gujjars , Jats etc do not even use proper word for your so called beloved pakistani pashtuns but use derogatory word Pathan. Lol

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                        i didnt say that . that stupid logic came from u, acc to u the ones that were born in prsent afghan region 2000 years ago are afghan lol
                        Read my posts carefully Moron, you are confusing mine one with Manzerah's. I said that they belong to the history of Afghanistan, the country (didnt claim any where that they belonged to Afghan ethnicity). Gujjar, it seems you have pea-sized brain and you must have poor concentration in classroom

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by rednwhite99 View Post
                          two of my close frends are langahs and they are from multan and they are ashamed of u know what afghan refugees living in south punjab(once everybody loved afghans but now even pak pashtuns hate u because of what u all do on youtube facebook etc), the thing is that ferishta who was a historian made this ns claim
                          [[Farishta]] is the authority for their Afghan origin which is doubtful to say the least. Pirzada Murad Baksh Bhutta of Multan says that Langah are Panwar [[Rajputs]] by origin. According to [[James Todd]], these Langah Rajputs were driven out by the Bhattis at least 700 years ago. Also Mirasis who keep a track of all the lineages have confirmed this Rajput origin. Other than these origins, some langahs also claim [[Arab]] descent and [[baloch people|Baloch]] descent. <ref>A Glossary of the tribes and castes of Punjab by H. A Rose</ref>
                          Other than this Langahs are also classified in jatts in Mandi bahaudin, [[Multan]] Districts and [[Dera Ghazi Khan]] where they settled during Akbar's Reign. <ref>A Glossary of the tribes and castes of Punjab by H. A Rose</ref>
                          In [[Montgomery District|Montgomery]] Langah are a part of [[Arain]] clan.
                          Ofcourse they are not Pashtuns. No tribe by name of Langah exist. The thing is , they claim to be from Sibi which was abode of Panni Afghans in 15th century. No Jat population has ever existed in Sibi, it was either Pashtun or Baloch. If Langah rulers were falsely claiming to be from Sibi, they were suggesting that they have Afghan roots. Its understandable that they would do such stupidity, their overlords were Lodi Sultans.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                            Read my posts carefully Moron, you are confusing mine one with Manzerah's. I said that they belong to the history of Afghanistan, the country (didnt claim any where that they belonged to Afghan ethnicity). Gujjar, it seems you have pea-sized brain and you must have poor concentration in classroom
                            lol mate,, u said ghaznavid was afghan lol , read ur early posts ,, history of Afghanistan means somthing else which i agre with but not afghan ethnicity. Also that afghan is pashtun is an exonym and old and most pashtuns dont accept it in pakistan as afghan is a nationality now not ethnicty anymore. u know why khushal khan had to say that slay the throats because at that time even pashtuns called thmselves pashtuns and prefered to be refered as pashtuns rather than afghans.

                            Except for some anp dudes, Afghan is a national of afghanistan , even pakhtuns of afghanistan are not refered as afghan rather farsiwans are called afghani or the hazara looking people ..

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                              Ofcourse they are not Pashtuns. No tribe by name of Langah exist. The thing is , they claim to be from Sibi which was abode of Panni Afghans in 15th century. No Jat population has ever existed in Sibi, it was either Pashtun or Baloch. If Langah rulers were falsely claiming to be from Sibi, they were suggesting that they have Afghan roots. Its understandable that they would do such stupidity, their overlords were Lodi Sultans.
                              sibi was exclusively baloch forever, not afghan. it was not a very attrative region for any sort of invaders

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                                Every Pashtun is ethnically Afghan...........ask any Pashtun whether he prefer to be called himself Pathani, he would say No. You Gujjars , Jats etc do not even use proper word for your so called beloved pakistani pashtuns but use derogatory word Pathan. Lol
                                well we call them pashtun pakhtun pathan etc, but the world knows pakhtuns as pathans, thats y they are so proud of being a pathan,, u feel ashamed of the exonym pathan but u made a country on an exonym afghanistan .. persians refered u as that during middle ages

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