Pakistan lands $46 billion investment from China

[khushal]

I'm assuming you live in Pakistan? in a functioning, real economy everything is in writing and most is available to the public. They should be a detailed plan on how and where every penny will be spend. As well as what corporations and contractors being used to complete the project

what are you talking about. This is pakistan. Most of the money will be put in elites pockets.

[tilla_jogian]

what operational mean? so businesses will more there?ppl will go there for jobs?ppl can build their house there and stuff?city will be developed?or just cargo will be shipped?

i keep hearing bout Gwadar going to be our Dubai

I think initially just shipment, after few years people will start moving there. Especially after China investment.

[Shehbaz Khan]

So do they even know what Macro and Micro economics is?

It's not that we don't know such stuff. It's that we don't care. To give you an example, a common man like you and me will stop at a traffic signal in the US/UK/UAE but will not stop at a traffic signal in Pakistan or Afghanistan.

We will not throw thrash in public in the western countries but in Pakistan we will do it.

Same is the case of Macro and Micro Economics. Like for example in the same section you pointed out we have brilliant minds like the current Minister of Finance Ishaq Dar and PTI's Asad Umer.. But the thing is when it comes to making a policy for the betterment of the state and it's institutions they just don't care like you and I don't care about violating the traffic signal.

[کیش]

It's not that we don't know such stuff. It's that we don't care. To give you an example, a common man like you and me will stop at a traffic signal in the US/UK/UAE but will not stop at a traffic signal in Pakistan or Afghanistan.

We will not throw thrash in public in the western countries but in Pakistan we will do it.

Same is the case of Macro and Micro Economics. Like for example in the same section you pointed out we have brilliant minds like the current Minister of Finance Ishaq Dar and PTI's Asad Umer.. But the thing is when it comes to making a policy for the betterment of the state and it's institutions they just don't care like you and I don't care about violating the traffic signal.

Pakistani's have no respect for their communities, cities, and country. The traffic light comparison is spot on. Here in America we as drivers understand and follow the rules of the road to ensure the safety of others and ourselves. But, in Afg/Pak its move out of my way driving where they are only looking out for themselves. I am surprised car accidents are not super high.

Regarding the economy, if they do not care for the health of their nation than they should either step down, get exiled or even executed. How can the finance ministry of "brilliant minds" when they do not care to propose an economic stimulus proposal?

[Khostai]

The only diffrence regarding the trafic lights and trash on the streets is, is that in almost every western country you will get fines, if police see you doing this thing you will get fined. In Belgium you can get 50 euro fine if a police sees you trowing away trash on the ground, not following trafic rulles ou can get even bigger fines.
So if people just implemented the rules most of the 3rd world countries would be much cleaner. But no, and than complain about the dirty streets.

[HalloIsBack]

^ where?

if the deal works, this will create many new jobs and development in the region.

or just bring some chineses gastarbeiter like in other countries where chine doing investment and the money will go to the pocket of the rich elite

[Karachi]

or just bring some chineses gastarbeiter like in other countries where chine doing investment and the money will go to the pocket of the rich elite

no, its different here since china needs this project to be success for their own economy

[Karachi]

If pakistanis wanted to, they could have developed this long ago with china, unfortunately they chose to take the extremist/destructive path instead

Gwadar city is a natural port and could also become a tourist hub because of the warm blue ocean

[HalloIsBack]

no, its different here since china needs this project to be success for their own economy

sure! pakistan is something special

[Shehbaz Khan]

Pakistani's have no respect for their communities, cities, and country. The traffic light comparison is spot on. Here in America we as drivers understand and follow the rules of the road to ensure the safety of others and ourselves. But, in Afg/Pak its move out of my way driving where they are only looking out for themselves. I am surprised car accidents are not super high.

Regarding the economy, if they do not care for the health of their nation than they should either step down, get exiled or even executed. How can the finance ministry of "brilliant minds" when they do not care to propose an economic stimulus proposal?

The thing missing is the 'will' to do something for the country. When these brilliant minds get into government offices they just want to fill in their own pockets, the irony of the countries like Pakistan. The same Finance Minister was working for around 60k dollars per month in UAE while Nawaz Sharif was in exile so you can understand his worth. He is a Chartered Accountant.

& most of the times the decisions that the governments of the third world countries can't take aren't complex at all. It doesn't need someone with the mind of Einstein .. Most of the times things which can move our societies towards betterment requires simple common sense. Like you don't need billions of rupees to clean your cities or foreign aid to make your people follow the traffic rules, you just need strict administration and things will start getting better.

[Kushan Prince]

A lot of Pashtuns are buying land in Gwadar now, especially from Afghanistan. Could this mean there could be a mass exodus migration of Pashtuns into Gwadar? What is the population of of Gwadar anyways?

[tilla_jogian]

A lot of Pashtuns are buying land in Gwadar now, especially from Afghanistan. Could this mean there could be a mass exodus migration of Pashtuns into Gwadar? What is the population of of Gwadar anyways?

Did you just made this up? Anyway common sense tells me Gwader will be muhajir dominated city. They are rich in Karachi and have money to buy land in Gwader. Not to forget how close Gwader is to Karachi. Another area where lots of rich people live is GT road from Lahore to Peshawar but I doubt they will want to settle in Gwader.

There is crackdown on afghanis, in year or 2 they will be deported back to Afghanistan. I doubt they can buy land in Pakistan legally.

Right now afghanis with properties in Pakistan are giving it to their Pakistani relatives.

[Kushan Prince]

Did you just made this up? Anyway common sense tells me Gwader will be muhajir dominated city. They are rich in Karachi and have money to buy land in Gwader. Not to forget how close Gwader is to Karachi. Another area where lots of rich people live is GT road from Lahore to Peshawar but I doubt they will want to settle in Gwader.

There is crackdown on afghanis, in year or 2 they will be deported back to Afghanistan. I doubt they can buy land in Pakistan legally.

Right now afghanis with properties in Pakistan are giving it to their Pakistani relatives.

You're a simple minded buffoon, and no i am not making anything up. I know a Pashtun family from Balkh deciding to buy land in Gwadar for business reasons. Khushal in this thread also said his family bought a few acres of land there and he's from Afghanistan.

There is crackdown on afghanis, in year or 2 they will be deported back to Afghanistan. I doubt they can buy land in Pakistan legally.

You really can't deport people who are legally trying to invest in your country and are opting to buy land. Not to mention its human rights violation to forcefully move a settled people from an are, something Pakiland is really good at doing.

But what makes you think Balochi's let alone Pashtuns from Quetta will you exploit their resources for your own benefit?

[tilla_jogian]

You're a simple minded buffoon, and no i am not making anything up. I know a Pashtun family from Balkh deciding to buy land in Gwadar for business reasons. Khushal in this thread also said his family bought a few acres of land there and he's from Afghanistan.



You really can't deport people who are legally trying to invest in your country and are opting to buy land. Not to mention its human rights violation to forcefully move a settled people from an are, something Pakiland is really good at doing.

But what makes you think Balochi's let alone Pashtuns from Quetta will you exploit their resources for your own benefit?

Well then let me get this through, not even fake CNIC of afghanis are good enough right now. They will be wasting money believe me. But if its true then tell them to sell it right now.

You can deport illegal mahajars, as I said there is no legal way for afghanis to buy land in Pakistan. They are not settled people but illegal muhajirs. Pakistan already have enough muhajirs, we don't want more of them. And your last part didn't made any sense, no one is exploiting anyone resources. Everyone is equal in Pakistan. But afghanis do exploid our resources, hopefully not anymore. The shops they have created can be run by Pakistanis. Their place is in Afghanistan.

I don't know why you want afghanis to live in Pakistan. In karachi soon they will start speaking bojpuri as their first language and become karachite in generation or two.

Kushal is pretty anti-Pak afghani, buying land in Pakistan sound like hypocracy honestly. Why not invest in Kabul instead? Afghani mahajirs are not welcome in Pakistan anymore after peshawar attack.

[Kushan Prince]

Well then let me get this through, not even fake CNIC of afghanis are good enough right now. They will be wasting money believe me. But if its true then tell them to sell it right now.

You can deport illegal mahajars, as I said there is no legal way for afghanis to buy land in Pakistan. They are not settled people but illegal muhajirs. Pakistan already have enough muhajirs, we don't want more of them. And your last part didn't made any sense, no one is exploiting anyone resources. Everyone is equal in Pakistan. But afghanis do exploid our resources, hopefully not anymore. The shops they have created can be run by Pakistanis. Their place is in Afghanistan.

I don't know why you want afghanis to live in Pakistan. In karachi soon they will start speaking bojpuri as their first language and become karachite in generation or two.

So you want Mojhars from Karachi to settle over there but you don't want Afghans who actually want to invest in your land to settle in gwadar? haha funny guy.

And your last part didn't made any sense, no one is exploiting anyone resources. Everyone is equal in Pakistan. But afghanis do exploid our resources, hopefully not anymore. The shops they have created can be run by Pakistanis

No my friend, nobody is "equal" in Pakistan. Your army cleansed north waziristan and forced thousands of IDP's to immigrate to Afghanistan. I don't know what kind of country forcefully depopulates its own people in efforts to rid the area of "terrorists." Either way its not your resources, its the Balochi's resources and they have every right to decide whether they will let their resources get exploited or not.

Kushal is pretty anti-Pak afghani, buying land in Pakistan sound like hypocracy honestly. Why not invest in Kabul instead? Afghani mahajirs are not welcome in Pakistan anymore after peshawar attack.

You can basically say that for every Pakhtun on here, they are all anti-paki and are fed up with your country's policy's, even the ones from Pakistan. And we are investing in Kabul bruh. Kabul is already the 5th fastest growing city in Asia and is on its way to becoming a breadbasket and powerhouse for economic development in central asia. Read up on the threads on Kabul posted by Bengal_Tiger will yeah?

As for the Peshawar attack, that was done by your own ISI funded TTP taliban remember?