Cameron warns Pakistan over insurgent funding

[Saifullah]

these leaks are good that it is coming out. But the main thing coming out of the leaks is the amount of civilian casulties.

The Pakistan factor is there but i do believe it is exaggerated. Russia might be supporting the insurgency some wat, you got north korea, china and iran. But still i think it is really silly to suggest that is why they are losing the war. NATO has the whole worlds support and they cry over the group they are fighting, say they get support from a 3rd world developing country

[Master Khan]

the biggest problem is US to be honest...they are the ones thay funding Paaki goverment.

[khyaal]

lol@ khyaal. If anyone is brainwashed it's you. You have very typical victim syndrome. Is a cure out of the question?

http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...html#post96496

Look at your post, you don't know anything about Pashtun/afghans, you are just a proxy.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

just bomb the pakistan's parliament house and that will do us pashtun's a favore

Why? This is not the answer. The terrorists will continue to bomb until they will only be ones left to rule.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The biggest problem with proxy governments is that they are set up with the population in mind. The only way to come out of the shackles of a proxy government to turn the tables on them.

The Pashtun of Afghanistan and Pakistan have to understand that they belong to two different countries. They have to be loyal to the country they are living in. They cannot and must not bring ethnic lineage into play.

The reunification of the Pashtun is not in sight, therefore, each has to simply focus on to serve their respective governments. Otherwise, it would be a never ending mary-go-round.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Momin the destruction of Pakistan is of benefits of many.

My beloved sister, it is not.

It will take years but education is the key. Secondly, Afghans living in Afghanistan are no better than the Punjabis of Pakistan.

If Pakistan had been invaded by Russia, the Afghans of Afghanistan would have allowed them to die instead of opening the borders.

Don't forget that it was Afghanistan that started this diplomatic stalemate with Pakistan not the other way around.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I disagree Momin. Do not fall for the media tactics. Pashtunkhwa is Afghan land.

I am following Islam, not any media, dearest sister.

It "was" Afghan land. It no longer is. It was agreed upon. It was not taken by force.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

No, it was signed over.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am referring to the Durand Line Agreement.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

A buffer zone was needed to strategically prevent a Russian attack on British India. They somehow managed to convince Amir Abdur Rahman Khan and it was sign over and a buffer was created.

After the partition, Pakistan assumed the land.

Afghanistan claimed that the agreement was not with Pakistan but was rather with the British. Pakistan claimed that it should still have the same borders that existed during British India.

Technically speaking Pakistan is right.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You know my dearest sister. We Pashtuns can't even take of what we have. What are we fighting for?

Today, we are looked down upon by everyone.

"We beat the British!" SO WHAT?
"We beat the Russian!" SO WHAT?
"We are beating NATO!" SO WHAT?

What do we have to show for it? Absolutely NOTHING.

The world in slowly adjusting to the 21st Century, we are still worried about what we had.

Today, the biggest failure to the Pashtuns are Pashtuns themselves. Our leaders were ALL Pashtun. What have they done.

Zahir Shah was the King for 40 years. What did he do?

What we have to do is to not be naive. This is what Islam teaches. Gulalai was bashing Islam, little does she know that if we were following Islam we should have given Osama bin Laden up to the US. Our naivety has destroyed. We act first, think later. He was wanted for terrorism and should have been given up. Allah would have dealt with it later. The Taliban are misusing the codes of Pashtunwali.

I can go on, however, the most important factor is not the land we had, but rather the land we have.

As per the dictates of Islam, a Pashtun from Pakistan should be loyal to Pakistan and the same goes for a Pashtun living in Afghanitan.

When we don't fear our neighbours then we can started flourishing.

We are proud people...and that is all the we are. We have nothing to show for it.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

It breaks my heart to see how the Pashtun are suffering, however it has happened at our own hands.

Mark my words: Allah will restore the Pashtun prestige. Insha Allah. (I say this only because of the Quran.) But the key is for us to turn to Allah. Period.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

We have killed many good people in our history. Their blood has to first balance out.
This is the same reason why Iraq is suffering. Imagine the history that was preserved in the Iraqi museums, all gone, all looted. Iraq is also paying a hefty price.

Allah does not forget history.