Long Live Pakistan <3

[Arooj Khan]

People who post Pro-Pakistani threads should be banned...


Screw Pakistan

Punjabi people are greedy penny pinchers

they steal

-Our land
-Our language
-Our culture
-Our people
-Our customs
-Our identity

and even our sons and daughters that are given to Punjabis in marriage.... and their children grow up speaking Punjabi dialects, or in worse cases, just the artifical language called Urdu and not Pashto and not their own Punjabi languages..... i hate mixed marriages...


I HATE PUNJABIS !!! They sacrifice their own Indo-"Aryan" dialects, just to get a ahead with a mixed language like Urdu.......

Go get your mind back , i think Haters Hacked it And aham my humble request to the administator is to ban all haters as they are cancer for Pakistan

[Arooj Khan]

I appreciate your passion for Pakistan but why are you wearing an arab hat?

Interesting question ! next time i'm gonna upload Rehman Baba's pic , so will you inquire me why i'm having a beard ?
Btw i like Arab style ...

[Arooj Khan]

soor bachya, you have no idea what you're barking on about

Hahaha khwand ye oko .... ^_^

[Smarty]

Agree with what you have stated here .... but the thing is that this Nafsa nafsi is practised everywhere , you can't only drag Punjabi Pashtun or Pashtun Punjabi in this case , today even brother is not loyal to his brother thn how come a 2 countrymen??? As far as patriotism for Pakistan is concerned, one can't quit love just bcoz few punjabiz are not sincere to pashtuns ? politiciations are corrupt?? or sometimes our rights as being Pashtuns are ignored ??
I believe the love of pashtuns for pakistan is unconditional as i feel myself , even if some unsincere powers make weak tries to crush them or ignore their rights as a Pakistani nati0nal , they will still stand firm and fight to the last drop of their blood , when they realized that the sacred land needs it .





Thanks for increasing my info , actually i copied it from fb without confirmation :P .
i have very little knowledge of history bt as per my info A.Q is a Pakistani Pashtun by ethnicity so what if he belong to urdu speaking family ... urdu speaker ba khpal kar kai agha zamong Khan dy bas .....

Pashtun society itself needs to be reformed, free from vices and corruption and focused on education, research, science and technology and stuff like that....but not at the cost of losing linguistic and cultural identity. More than that, pakhtuns shouldnt let their blood become very cheap and shouldnt be taken for granted if they want to live within scope of pakistan. Pakistan is just a temperory guest house, its not their home. At some stage, pakhtuns from amu to indus, have to sit togather and function as single nation.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Except that it doesnt make much sense in todays context. Pashtun belt is burning, is in ruins, largest mass migration is taking place from pashtun areas.....................and @Arooj Khan is singing green poems

Is the Pashtun belt not burning in Afghanistan? Than why you sing of Afghanistan's glory? Migration is taking place, yes, and we are handling it, Alhamdulillah. Our national leaders spend their Eids with the IDP's. I know we have problems and they are ours and we are handling them to whatever extent we can.

Shaitan is also a reality

It certainly is. Those who deny it are denying facts and figures. So those who deny Pakistan's existence deny facts and figures. You don't like it, just like you don't like Shaitaan, that's a different story. But your personal likes and dislikes don't have an impact on facts and figures.

There are different definition of ghairat and beghariarati. We have all kind of beghairats in our Pashtun society. From Qaumi perceptive, beghairat is the one who side with ghair in cruelty , wrongs and injustice against his own qaum. For example a wazir in Pakistan air force proudly claimed that he has dropped bombs on his own village and did it without any hesitation or questions. His family was permanently settled in Islamabad and had adopted islamabadi ways, just like you have adopted karachiite ways. This is one case of a beghairat. People do lot lot of wrong things for filling stomach but i am sure very few people will be beghairat enough to follow the order of bombing his own village. A ghairatmand person would shoot that punjabi officer in the head who had issued him such an order. Any Pashtun who support pakistani military establishment and bow his head to kafir agha khani jinnah is top beghairat. In short any Pashtuns , who firmly believe in pakistanism, jinnah and army.................is a begahirat.

Again, you didn't answer the question did you? Can you enlist 10 Pakhtun personalities from Pakistan who are not beghairat according to you?

What is missing? .Compatibility.

Again, will you please elaborate?

There is no dialect of Pashto in which word Pathan exists. This Pathan word has negative connotation similar to 'niggar , it is a foreign word invented by Hindus. If Pakistanis are calling you Pathan instead of proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun, then they are insisting on carrying on their hindu legacy and are sensing 'foriegn/ghair' vibes from you. It is sign of disrespect and not acknowledging your proper identity. Tell me , do you preferred to be identified as "pathan" or "pashtun" ?, if you are asked to chose one.

I was not talking about dialects of Pashto. In other languages people use this term. A Pakhtun don't call other Pakhtun as Pathan. It's the non-Pakhtu speakers which refer to us as Pathans. That's why Ghani no where in his Pukhto poetry termed us Pathans but when he was writing a book in English about us he named it as The Pathans.

There lies the answer. To me this issue is meaning less, just like NWFP named as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa didn't start feeding a common Pakhtun or gave him a better life style or protected his interest. Even this issue if resolved isn't going to serve us except for satisfying the 'ego' of few people.

[Kushan Prince]

Ahh another case of granduer brainwashing in the paki pathan masses of pakistan. Just a phase that will pass by with time and ease.


Just another phase my friend.

[Smarty]

[QUOTE]

Is the Pashtun belt not burning in Afghanistan? Than why you sing of Afghanistan's glory?

Ok

Migration is taking place, yes, and we are handling it, Alhamdulillah. Our national leaders spend their Eids with the IDP's. I know we have problems and they are ours and we are handling them to whatever extent we can.

Politicians do politics, visiting IDP camp on eid is scoring points. Thats what Nawaz did. And thats what Imran did to embarrass federal government. Talk about your Pakistani nation, ISPR itself admitted that the response to their appeal of helping IDPs through donations, is disappointing. Where is Pakistani "bhaichara"?. IDPs were dying in the extreme heat of june and your media was not covering it. Tell me , how much of the news of KPK and Baluchistan are covered in all of the Paki channels?.14 punjabis died in Qadri's and gullu bhatt drama and the entire Pakistani nation was mourning it and discussions were going for weeks in the media but no one even knows or admitt that there are civilian casualties in the jet bombardments of napak army. You are a secondary citizen of marginal community.

It certainly is. Those who deny it are denying facts and figures. So those who deny Pakistan's existence deny facts and figures. You don't like it, just like you don't like Shaitaan, that's a different story. But your personal likes and dislikes don't have an impact on facts and figures.

Its not about facts and figures, it is about right and wrong , looking out for your own interests. Punjabis and Mohajirs look out for their own interests, paki-pathans do not, specially those who are lost in pakistanism and jinnah-ism. FATA and Afghanistan, both got destroyed due to Pakistan , directly or indirectly (i can explain why but that would be lengthy explanation)................Pakistan was looking out for her own interests and integrity, didnt care about the interest of pashtun qaum.

Again, you didn't answer the question did you? Can you enlist 10 Pakhtun personalities from Pakistan who are not beghairat according to you?

I do not keep profiles of each and every notable of Pakistan so i cant tell who has shown beghairati and who has not. Moreover Beghairats are of several types, you have to be specific which kind of ghairatmandi are you talking about. Also "my beghairat will be yours ghairatmand and vice versa". so its relative.

Again, will you please elaborate?

Indic/desi values , ways of life, norms and cultures, are simply not compatible with pashtun's. Even religious values are different

I was not talking about dialects of Pashto. In other languages people use this term. A Pakhtun don't call other Pakhtun as Pathan. It's the non-Pakhtu speakers which refer to us as Pathans. That's why Ghani no where in his Pukhto poetry termed us Pathans but when he was writing a book in English about us he named it as The Pathans.

Fcuk Ghani Khan. He had to sell his book and he had written his book for non-pashtun audience who are familiar with pathan word.
If you are o.k with Pathan identity and wont correct the people then you will always be identified with foreign word pathan. Its 21st century, dont be apologetic about it. I will give you example of Afghanistan, no one use word pathan there so all the international news papers , channels and reporters use proper word Pashtun when they cover news of Afghanistan because this is what Pashtuns of Afghanistan introduce themselves to them. Even within pakistan, very professinal journalists and writers avoid the crude word pathan and use Pashtun.

There lies the answer. To me this issue is meaning less, just like NWFP named as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa didn't start feeding a common Pakhtun or gave him a better life style or protected his interest. Even this issue if resolved isn't going to serve us except for satisfying the 'ego' of few people

Every thing in life is not about filling your stomach or becoming rich with good life style. Why we value self-respect? why we care about imaan? why we care about principles?.... does it feeds your stomach or give you better life style?.....

[Shehbaz Khan]

Ok

Good. You agreed to something.

Politicians do politics, visiting IDP camp on eid is scoring points. Thats what Nawaz did. And thats what Imran did to embarrass federal government. Talk about your Pakistani nation, ISPR itself admitted that the response to their appeal of helping IDPs through donations, is disappointing. Where is Pakistani "bhaichara"?. IDPs were dying in the extreme heat of june and your media was not covering it. Tell me , how much of the news of KPK and Baluchistan are covered in all of the Paki channels?.14 punjabis died in Qadri's and gullu bhatt drama and the entire Pakistani nation was mourning it and discussions were going for weeks in the media but no one even knows or admitt that there are civilian casualties in the jet bombardments of napak army. You are a secondary citizen of marginal community.

So if our leaders visit those camps you say they are doing politics if they don't than you say we aren't given importance. The thing is that my heart was paining so much when I saw Imran Khan, Shahbaz Sharif, Nawaz Sharif and General Raheel Sharif at the IDP's camp. You know why, because none of them is a Pakhtun. Where was Mehmood Khan Achakzai? Where was Asfandyar Wali Khan? They didn't even play politics.
Imran Khan visited the IDP's at once when the issue started and has repeatedly spoken about the civilian causalities, that's why he was against the operation. But he was termed as Taliban Khan. And you are telling me that media didn't report about IDP's?? Which Pakistani channels do you watch?

Its not about facts and figures, it is about right and wrong , looking out for your own interests. Punjabis and Mohajirs look out for their own interests, paki-pathans do not, specially those who are lost in pakistanism and jinnah-ism. FATA and Afghanistan, both got destroyed due to Pakistan , directly or indirectly (i can explain why but that would be lengthy explanation)................Pakistan was looking out for her own interests and integrity, didnt care about the interest of pashtun qaum.

First it was about facts and figures. That's why you quoted the Shaitan Example didn't you? . And I had mentioned if you don't like it that doesn't change facts. Now whose interest is Pakistan protecting? According to me the interest of millions of Pakhtuns is the interest of Pakistan. If Pakistan will prosper Pakhtuns will prosper.

I do not keep profiles of each and every notable of Pakistan so i cant tell who has shown beghairati and who has not. Moreover Beghairats are of several types, you have to be specific which kind of ghairatmandi are you talking about. Also "my beghairat will be yours ghairatmand and vice versa". so its relative.

Haha, the thing is that your sort of ghairat mand is someone you haven't really seen. Everyone on this end of the durand is a beghairat to you unless he picks up a rifle and goes against the state of Pakistan or start speaking against Pakistan on public forums.

Indic/desi values , ways of life, norms and cultures, are simply not compatible with pashtun's. Even religious values are different.

Haha, diversity is going to exist in each and every case. Even Pakhtuns of different areas are different. A Pakhtun of Quetta is way different than the Pakhtun of Pekhawar? We must learn to co-exist with all the differences.

Fcuk Ghani Khan.

Parwah ye Ghani na kri ka ye spak tali ka droon,
Taf! sa ba da jahan wi sa ba tol da di jahan!

He had to sell his book and he had written his book for non-pashtun audience who are familiar with pathan word.
If you are o.k with Pathan identity and wont correct the people then you will always be identified with foreign word pathan. Its 21st century, dont be apologetic about it. I will give you example of Afghanistan, no one use word pathan there so all the international news papers , channels and reporters use proper word Pashtun when they cover news of Afghanistan because this is what Pashtuns of Afghanistan introduce themselves to them. Even within pakistan, very professinal journalists and writers avoid the crude word pathan and use Pashtun.

That was the whole point. I'm glad you understood it. You may dislike the word Pathan for many reasons. It's a personal choice of every individual to like or dislike a word. But this word is used for/by Non Pakhtun Audience/Speaker.

Every thing in life is not about filling your stomach or becoming rich with good life style. Why we value self-respect? why we care about imaan? why we care about principles?.... does it feeds your stomach or give you better life style?.....

At the time of need and hunger when nothing is available even the meat of a pig is allowed.
Pakhtuns don't have jobs, they don't have electricity, they don't have a piece of bread to feed their kids and our Provincial and Federal representatives were talking about changing the name of the province?? It's like an illeterate man on the street cries about wearing a suit and sitting on the seat of a CEO? So now we have changed the name. What? If this would have been the issue of the common man of KPK, ANP would have won the past general elections.

[Smarty]

Good. You agreed to something.




So if our leaders visit those camps you say they are doing politics if they don't than you say we aren't given importance. The thing is that my heart was paining so much when I saw Imran Khan, Shahbaz Sharif, Nawaz Sharif and General Raheel Sharif at the IDP's camp. You know why, because none of them is a Pakhtun. Where was Mehmood Khan Achakzai? Where was Asfandyar Wali Khan? They didn't even play politics.
Imran Khan visited the IDP's at once when the issue started and has repeatedly spoken about the civilian causalities, that's why he was against the operation. But he was termed as Taliban Khan. And you are telling me that media didn't report about IDP's?? Which Pakistani channels do you watch?





First it was about facts and figures. That's why you quoted the Shaitan Example didn't you? . And I had mentioned if you don't like it that doesn't change facts. Now whose interest is Pakistan protecting? According to me the interest of millions of Pakhtuns is the interest of Pakistan. If Pakistan will prosper Pakhtuns will prosper.



Haha, the thing is that your sort of ghairat mand is someone you haven't really seen. Everyone on this end of the durand is a beghairat to you unless he picks up a rifle and goes against the state of Pakistan or start speaking against Pakistan on public forums.




Haha, diversity is going to exist in each and every case. Even Pakhtuns of different areas are different. A Pakhtun of Quetta is way different than the Pakhtun of Pekhawar? We must learn to co-exist with all the differences.




Parwah ye Ghani na kri ka ye spak tali ka droon,
Taf! sa ba da jahan wi sa ba tol da di jahan!



That was the whole point. I'm glad you understood it. You may dislike the word Pathan for many reasons. It's a personal choice of every individual to like or dislike a word. But this word is used for/by Non Pakhtun Audience/Speaker.



At the time of need and hunger when nothing is available even the meat of a pig is allowed.
Pakhtuns don't have jobs, they don't have electricity, they don't have a piece of bread to feed their kids and our Provincial and Federal representatives were talking about changing the name of the province?? It's like an illeterate man on the street cries about wearing a suit and sitting on the seat of a CEO? So now we have changed the name. What? If this would have been the issue of the common man of KPK, ANP would have won the past general elections.

So you were against renaming of province. North west frontier province is not a name, it was going to be renamed one way or another. Even punjabis, who at that time opposed renaming, are nowadays quite fine and o.k with new name.....but 'pathans' like you have not gotten over it?. It may not be an achievement of ANP , but it was their or any governament's duty to change the colonial name to a proper one. Whether they did it for political point scoring or for some thing else, i am not interested in that.

[gadoonwal]

[QUOTE=Smarty;749468]

Ok
Politicians do politics, visiting IDP camp on eid is scoring points. Thats what Nawaz did. And thats what Imran did to embarrass federal government. Talk about your Pakistani nation, ISPR itself admitted that the response to their appeal of helping IDPs through donations, is disappointing. Where is Pakistani "bhaichara"?. IDPs were dying in the extreme heat of june and your media was not covering it. Tell me , how much of the news of KPK and Baluchistan are covered in all of the Paki channels?.14 punjabis died in Qadri's and gullu bhatt drama and the entire Pakistani nation was mourning it and discussions were going for weeks in the media but no one even knows or admitt that there are civilian casualties in the jet bombardments of napak army. You are a secondary citizen of marginal community.



Its not about facts and figures, it is about right and wrong , looking out for your own interests. Punjabis and Mohajirs look out for their own interests, paki-pathans do not, specially those who are lost in pakistanism and jinnah-ism. FATA and Afghanistan, both got destroyed due to Pakistan , directly or indirectly (i can explain why but that would be lengthy explanation)................Pakistan was looking out for her own interests and integrity, didnt care about the interest of pashtun qaum.

I do not keep profiles of each and every notable of Pakistan so i cant tell who has shown beghairati and who has not. Moreover Beghairats are of several types, you have to be specific which kind of ghairatmandi are you talking about. Also "my beghairat will be yours ghairatmand and vice versa". so its relative.


Indic/desi values , ways of life, norms and cultures, are simply not compatible with pashtun's. Even religious values are different

Ghani Khan. He had to sell his book and he had written his book for non-pashtun audience who are familiar with pathan word.
If you are o.k with Pathan identity and wont correct the people then you will always be identified with foreign word pathan. Its 21st century, dont be apologetic about it. I will give you example of Afghanistan, no one use word pathan there so all the international news papers , channels and reporters use proper word Pashtun when they cover news of Afghanistan because this is what Pashtuns of Afghanistan introduce themselves to them. Even within pakistan, very professinal journalists and writers avoid the crude word pathan and use Pashtun.

Every thing in life is not about filling your stomach or becoming rich with good life style. Why we value self-respect? why we care about imaan? why we care about principles?.... does it feeds your stomach or give you better life style?.....

warning.Ghani Khan was great poet and scholer.Do not use offensive language here.He named his book ,,the pathan,,and i also disagree with him on that point but that dose,nt mean people should abuse the Great Ghani Khan.
Shah Baz is well known for his anti-pakhtun views.

[Smarty]

And shehbaza, Asfandyar and Mahmud achakzai are paki pathans like you. They are politicians and they are enjoying their power and status in Pakistan. Some pathans are doing politics in the name of pakistanism, some in the name of pashtunism and some in the name of islam. Every one of them is rotten paki.

[gadoonwal]

And shehbaza, Asfandyar and Mahmud achakzai are paki pathans like you. They are politicians and they are enjoying their power and status in Pakistan. Some pathans are doing politics in the name of pakistanism, some in the name of pashtunism and some in the name of islam. Every one of them is rotten paki.

pathan pathan will not help you or pashtun.
I never recognise pakistan and never will.
I am not politicain .i do not follow TTP isi tools like you do.
You defended the terrorists of pakistani state here in this forum.
I on the other always opposed them.
This mean you are true pakipied pathan.
what you did for pashtu and pashtuns?
are you not paki ?
Ghani khan made great contribution to pakhtu language.
He taught pashtuns pashtunism in his poetry.
what you did for pashtu?
you can,nt even write pashtu .That make you true pakipied pathan not me.

[gadoonwal]

what make me laugh when some pashtuns setting in front of computer in the west creating new boundries for pashtuns.
True pashtun act and not cry.
Enjoying up on dole money in the west will not get you pakhtunistan.
First give up dole money and come to pashtunkhwa and be part of the struggle.

[Smarty]

pathan pathan will not help you or pashtun.
I never recognise pakistan and never will.
I am not politicain .i do not follow TTP isi tools like you do.
You defended the terrorists of pakistani state here in this forum.
I on the other always opposed them.
This mean you are true pakipied pathan.
what you did for pashtu and pashtuns?
are you not paki ?
Ghani khan made great contribution to pakhtu language.
He taught pashtuns pashtunism in his poetry.
what you did for pashtu?
you can,nt even write pashtu .That make you true pakipied pathan not me.

your post was deleted cus it was full of abuse.
I warn you before to behave or you will be baned.
You insulted almost every pashtun mashar.You have no agenda or plan just slogans and abusive words.
True pashtun act and not cry .

[Smarty]

what make me laugh when some pashtuns setting in front of computer in the west creating new boundries for pashtuns.
True pashtun act and not cry.
Enjoying up on dole money in the west will not get you pakhtunistan.
First give up dole money and come to pashtunkhwa and be part of the struggle.

What struggle?. Doing politics in the name of pashto and pashtuns?. Fooling masses is your and sherpao's struggle?. May Allah's lanat on secular Pashtun nationalists. Worst people in the sense that they broke the records of corruption and incompetence, they drink sharab and watch the mujra of hijras and damay and call it pashtun culture.