Long Live Pakistan <3

[Smarty]

پٹھان یا خان پر جوکس بنانے والے متوجہ ہوں اگر پٹھان یا خان بیوقوف ہوتے تو مسلم لیگ کا پہلا صدر آغا خان نہ ہوتا
پاکستان کا پہلا وزیر اعظم لیاقت علی خان نہ ہوتا
ملک کو ایٹمی طاقت بنانے والا بھی خان نہ ہوتا (ڈاکٹر قدیر خان)
سینتیس گیندوں پر سو رنز بنانے والا بھی نہ ہوتا (شاہد آفریدی)
ملک کا تاریخ کا پہلا ورلڈ کپ جتوانے والا بھی خان نہ ہوتا (عمران خان)
ایک بیوقوف کبھی آپ کو ٹی ٹوئنٹی کا ورلڈ کپ نہ جتوا سکتا (یونس خان)
اسکوائش کے آٹھ عالمی ریکارڈ رکھنے والا بیوقوف نہیں۔۔( جہانگیر خان)
چھے مرتبہ عالمی اور دس مرتبہ برطانوی سطح پر جیتنے والا بھی بیوقوف نہیں ہو سکتا۔۔(جان شیر خان

I have read such stuff, circulated by pashtuns, in an attempt to counter the popular belief held by their pakistani "brothers" that 'pathan/pathani' are dumb people with low IQ. This is very sad situation.
In your Urdu para there are some mistakes. I am not correcting you to belittle you but for increasing your knowledge further. First of all the stupid/dumb stereotype is hurled against pashtuns aka "khan sahab/lalay/khocha' ............not against khans in general.
1- Agha khan, founder of mulsim league was not a pashtun but ismaeli of perisan orgin born in karachi. Remember that Khan is/was not only used by mongols but also adopted by turks and people of indo-iranain stock like persians, pashtuns and baloch. Tell this to your punjabi/mohajir countrymen that agha khan was pashtun, they would make fun of you and would hurt your feelings.
2- Liaqat ali khan was a punjabi muslim of karnal, east punjab. Ethnically belonged to marhal clan of jats. Remember that Khan signified noble and upper class heritage in hindostan, so many indigenous Muslims were awarded khan title by mughals and rulers before them.
3- AQ khan indeed says that he is pathan but tell this to indian mohajirs of karachi that urduspeaker AQ khan is pashtun. They would tell you that he is intelligent because he is not pashto speaking cave dweller of north west.

[gadoonwal]

Why Wazir , Fata n Baloch will be considered Traitor ?? n where I mentioned them ?? Yesterday when you asked me this question i waited for the Real Traitors to visit the thread so that i show others who they are ...
99% Fake Pakistani Pashtuns here in this forum are Traitors
I 'm sure the word is clear to you now ...


Wlecome welcome Pakhair
Don't tell me the meaning of my Country or else everybody knows the "Political meaning of AFGHANISTAN" !!!

This is for those who are cracking Jokes on Pakistani Pashtuns whether they are punjabis , endians or afghans .

پٹھان یا خان پر جوکس بنانے والے متوجہ ہوں اگر پٹھان یا خان بیوقوف ہوتے تو مسلم لیگ کا پہلا صدر آغا خان نہ ہوتا
پاکستان کا پہلا وزیر اعظم لیاقت علی خان نہ ہوتا
ملک کو ایٹمی طاقت بنانے والا بھی خان نہ ہوتا (ڈاکٹر قدیر خان)
سینتیس گیندوں پر سو رنز بنانے والا بھی نہ ہوتا (شاہد آفریدی)
ملک کا تاریخ کا پہلا ورلڈ کپ جتوانے والا بھی خان نہ ہوتا (عمران خان)
ایک بیوقوف کبھی آپ کو ٹی ٹوئنٹی کا ورلڈ کپ نہ جتوا سکتا (یونس خان)
اسکوائش کے آٹھ عالمی ریکارڈ رکھنے والا بیوقوف نہیں۔۔( جہانگیر خان)
چھے مرتبہ عالمی اور دس مرتبہ برطانوی سطح پر جیتنے والا بھی بیوقوف نہیں ہو سکتا۔۔(جان شیر خان

Huh so your are willing to save your culture n language ?? i mean really?? so what you are doing for this great cause ? After all you are
making a SO CALLED Pashtunistan or its just a Day dreaming :PPP


Don't use this word (M.....) , it means ,,,,,,,,,,,,you are using offensive language here .
Write full name MUHAMMAD S.A.W
( wallahu a'lam)


Yeah you are not Racist thats why when i post a single poem for Pakistan you rushed towards it and started abusing n blaming Pakistan ... [Joke of the day]...



Not every region but only "great afghanis" n "great indians" !!!

I am surprised how pakipied pashtun claim on every khan.Sir aga khan was Qadyani and british agent so as indain laiqat ali khan.None of them was pashtun.One was parsi aand another one was typical racist indain.

This is not paki forum and we will not tolerate any poem for the enemy state of pakhtuns ( pakistan).
Pakistan is cancer and deseas for the whole region.
Loy pakhtunistan,loy pakhtunkhwa or loy afghanistan are all our names.
We will creat greater pakhtunistan/afghanistan inshallah where pashtun will live in peace side by side with all other minorities.Where everyone will learn and respect pashtu language and culture.Pakhtun is reality while pakistan is fake name and identity.The Britishes creat pakistan for their own interests.
All patriotic and geratmand pakhtun hate pakistan but it is only a matter of time.
It is not a dream but a fact.

terroristan is taking last breaths.
Oppertunists and boot lickers of Chaudry sahib will be sent accross Margala height.
pakistan killed forty five thousands pakhtuns in the war on terror.
Your statuse in pakistan will never be changed.
They will use and then dumped .
Pathan is not our reaL name so pls first find out who you are?

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ dier ogad taqreer di woko! os laga saa wakhla ao yao gut oba oska!

1) Pakistan is home to millions of Pakhtuns and out of those millions the majority loves their country. So they have all the right to sing, write and post poems about Pakistan.

2) Pakhtun is an ethnic reality and just like that Pakistan is a reality as well. Those who think it's not must check facts and figures.

3) All gheratmand Pashtuns hate Pakistan, lmao! and those who don't are beghairat? I repeatedly asked you, can you enlist ten Pakhtuns, prominent ones who hate Pakistan and have ghairat?

4) Our status in Pakistan? Em well what's wrong with our status in Pakistan? Last time I checked Pakhtuns were there in the Federal Cabinet. The provincial cabinet is 100% Pakhtun. We had Pakhtuns as Army Chief. We had hundreds of Pakhtuns in the Army and Civil services. What's missing?

5) You again as usual going for Pathan/Pakhtun thing! It's just different people called us different names. I will say it's dialect difference. You can keep whining about it.

[Smarty]

[QUOTE=Shehbaz Khan;749363]^ dier ogad taqreer di woko! os laga saa wakhla ao yao gut oba oska!

1) Pakistan is home to millions of Pakhtuns and out of those millions the majority loves their country. So they have all the right to sing, write and post poems about Pakistan.

Except that it doesnt make much sense in todays context. Pashtun belt is burning, is in ruins, largest mass migration is taking place from pashtun areas.....................and @Arooj Khan is singing green poems

2) Pakhtun is an ethnic reality and just like that Pakistan is a reality as well. Those who think it's not must check facts and figures.

Shaitan is also a reality

3) All gheratmand Pashtuns hate Pakistan, lmao! and those who don't are beghairat? I repeatedly asked you, can you enlist ten Pakhtuns, prominent ones who hate Pakistan and have ghairat?

There are different definition of ghairat and beghariarati. We have all kind of beghairats in our Pashtun society. From Qaumi perceptive, beghairat is the one who side with ghair in cruelty , wrongs and injustice against his own qaum. For example a wazir in Pakistan air force proudly claimed that he has dropped bombs on his own village and did it without any hesitation or questions. His family was permanently settled in Islamabad and had adopted islamabadi ways, just like you have adopted karachiite ways. This is one case of a beghairat. People do lot lot of wrong things for filling stomach but i am sure very few people will be beghairat enough to follow the order of bombing his own village. A ghairatmand person would shoot that punjabi officer in the head who had issued him such an order. Any Pashtun who support pakistani military establishment and bow his head to kafir agha khani jinnah is top beghairat. In short any Pashtuns , who firmly believe in pakistanism, jinnah and army.................is a begahirat.

4) Our status in Pakistan? Em well what's wrong with our status in Pakistan? Last time I checked Pakhtuns were there in the Federal Cabinet. The provincial cabinet is 100% Pakhtun. We had Pakhtuns as Army Chief. We had hundreds of Pakhtuns in the Army and Civil services. What's missing?

What is missing? .Compatibility.

5) You again as usual going for Pathan/Pakhtun thing! It's just different people called us different names. I will say it's dialect difference. You can keep whining about it.

There is no dialect of Pashto in which word Pathan exists. This Pathan word has negative connotation similar to 'niggar , it is a foreign word invented by Hindus. If Pakistanis are calling you Pathan instead of proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun, then they are insisting on carrying on their hindu legacy and are sensing 'foriegn/ghair' vibes from you. It is sign of disrespect and not acknowledging your proper identity. Tell me , do you preferred to be identified as "pathan" or "pashtun" ?, if you are asked to chose one.

[Arooj Khan]

Arooj tror, You did not explain the definition of traitor according to the constitution of Pakistan. You are an educated woman so tell us what and who is ghaddaar ?

As we all know about history n i'm pretty sure if i start defining the real ghaddars , you will simply tag it as " Pakistaniat" " pakstudy" n blah blah ...
let me explain my own point of view about it .. Every single man dishonest to the land where he is born and bred is a traitor according to me ...

[jankhan]

As we all know about history n i'm pretty sure if i start defining the real ghaddars , you will simply tag it as " Pakistaniat" " pakstudy" n blah blah ...
let me explain my own point of view about it .. Every single man dishonest to the land where he is born and bred is a traitor according to me ...

good but we must know first of all what is ''Pakistan'' ?
Pakistan is the composition of its land, it people and its constitution. These three elements make Pakistan. But unfortunately most of Pakistanis consider Pakistan as some institution, some political party, some leader or his own ideology. some idiots consider army and isi or some political party or some leader the real Pakistan. so if you criticize army and isi or their political party or their leader for their wrong doings they consider you a ghaddaar.
But we all know these are all jahileen, for a real educated person, the real definition of Pakistan is what I gave above.

[Smarty]

As we all know about history n i'm pretty sure if i start defining the real ghaddars , you will simply tag it as " Pakistaniat" " pakstudy" n blah blah ...
let me explain my own point of view about it .. Every single man dishonest to the land where he is born and bred is a traitor according to me ...

It is decent definition of a traitor, no doubt about it.....but it needs more explaination.
1- The land, the 'khawra, what if a person says that he is born and bred in pakhtun land and he is only loyal to pakhtun khawra not punjabiano's?.
2- Pashtuns, through out history have expressed their love and patriotism only for their own pashtun lands, just check out pashto songs and poetry. Now they are part of pakistan, before that they were part of british india and there were many loyal pathans to british raj. British recieved taxes from settled areas of pakhtuns and built roads, infrastructure and gave you administration. Yet pakhtuns didnt song naghmay and poems in praise of british raj. Before British raj, there were sikh and mughal raj, pashtuns also didnt sung patriotic peoms in praise of their raj.
Nowadays it is punjabi raj. Tommorow we might be under rule of some other state.

[tripledouble]

I appreciate your passion for Pakistan but why are you wearing an arab hat?

[tripledouble]

It is decent definition of a traitor, no doubt about it.....but it needs more explaination.
1- The land, the 'khawra, what if a person says that he is born and bred in pakhtun land and he is only loyal to pakhtun khawra not punjabiano's?.
2- Pashtuns, through out history have expressed their love and patriotism only for their own pashtun lands, just check out pashto songs and poetry. Now they are part of pakistan, before that they were part of british india and there were many loyal pathans to british raj. British recieved taxes from settled areas of pakhtuns and built roads, infrastructure and gave you administration. Yet pakhtuns didnt song naghmay and poems in praise of british raj. Before British raj, there were sikh and mughal raj, pashtuns also didnt sung patriotic peoms in praise of their raj.
Nowadays it is punjabi raj. Tommorow we might be under rule of some other state.

Why does it matter if your descendants don't speak Pashto in the future or any langauge?Languages keeping changing, cultures evolve, people change; even Pakhtun was not a nation until a thousand years ago or so, many swati pakhtuns were dards who got pakhtunizeda and there many non-pakhto speaking tribes that got Pakhtunized; borders are fluid and cultures/languages will continue to change naturally.

[Smarty]

Why does it matter if your descendants don't speak Pashto in the future or any langauge?Languages keeping changing, cultures evolve, people change; even Pakhtun was not a nation until a thousand years ago or so, many swati pakhtuns were dards who got pakhtunizeda and there many non-pakhto speaking tribes that got Pakhtunized; borders are fluid and cultures/languages will continue to change naturally.

It doesnt matter what we were thousands of years ago, we are now a qaum and we are muslims. Man has life span in decades, nations have life span of centuries or mileniums. A nation has to become strong otherwise its fate would be in the hands of other nations. God doesnt help those nations who dont help themeselves, why pashtun nation shouldnt help herself and take matters into her own hands?.
The punishment of weakness and ignorance of pashtun nation in the 19th and 20th century is division of a nation by farangis. And Military invasions and devestation of our lands by the sikhs, british, soviets, americans and pakis. Imagine if turks, japanese, french, germans, british had adopted your line of thinking. A nation can become a super power within decades like Nazi germany, if she has what it takes to be a nation. Otherwise a nation would be reduced to "khocha" "akhroat", "chowkidar" and "pathan/pathani"

[tripledouble]

It doesnt matter what we were thousands of years ago, we are now a qaum and we are muslims. Man has life span in decades, nations have life span of centuries or mileniums. A nation has to become strong otherwise its fate would be in the hands of other nations. God doesnt help those nations who dont help themeselves, why pashtun nation shouldnt help herself and take matters into her own hands?.
The punishment of weakness and ignorance of pashtun nation in the 19th and 20th century is division of a nation by farangis. And Military invasions and devestation of our lands by the sikhs, british, soviets, americans and pakis. Imagine if turks, japanese, french, germans, british had adopted your line of thinking. A nation can become a super power within decades like Nazi germany, if she has what it takes to be a nation. Otherwise a nation would be reduced to "khocha" "akhroat", "chowkidar" and "pathan/pathani"

Nations keep changing, language and borders don't matter as long as people are happy.

As for "akhrot" and other stereotypes, I'm sure Pakhtuns call Punjabis daalkhors and what not, every ethnicity is stereotyped and in Pakistan, Pakhtuns are more than just these stereotypes...

[Smarty]

Nations keep changing, language and borders don't matter as long as people are happy.

As for "akhrot" and other stereotypes, I'm sure Pakhtuns call Punjabis daalkhors and what not, every ethnicity is stereotyped and in Pakistan, Pakhtuns are more than just these stereotypes...

I was not talking about stereotypes, but about status and stature as a nation.

[kanishka]

People who post Pro-Pakistani threads should be banned...


Screw Pakistan

Punjabi people are greedy penny pinchers

they steal

-Our land
-Our language
-Our culture
-Our people
-Our customs
-Our identity

and even our sons and daughters that are given to Punjabis in marriage.... and their children grow up speaking Punjabi dialects, or in worse cases, just the artifical language called Urdu and not Pashto and not their own Punjabi languages..... i hate mixed marriages...


I HATE PUNJABIS !!! They sacrifice their own Indo-"Aryan" dialects, just to get a ahead with a mixed language like Urdu.......

[tripledouble]

People who post Pro-Pakistani threads should be banned...


Screw Pakistan

Punjabi people are greedy penny pinchers

they steal

-Our land
-Our language
-Our culture
-Our people
-Our customs
-Our identity

and even our sons and daughters that are given to Punjabis in marriage.... and their children grow up speaking Punjabi dialects, or in worse cases, just the artifical language called Urdu and not Pashto and not their own Punjabi languages..... i hate mixed marriages...


I HATE PUNJABIS !!! They sacrifice their own Indo-"Aryan" dialects, just to get a ahead with a mixed language like Urdu.......

soor bachya, you have no idea what you're barking on about

[Arooj Khan]

Lady Arooj Khan, your love for Pakistan (Punjab plus Karcahi) is one-sided. Its an admirable trait in Pashtuns that they are loyal to extreme, like true and namak-halal chowkidaars, pakistani pashtun would die for his punjabi countrymen rather than betraying their trust and salt. If a situation arise where a Pashtun is asked to back-stab/murder his punjabi friend to save his own life or for money, he would refuse. But if a Punjabi is asked to back-stab or give up on his "pathan" friend, he would do it withouty much hesitation. I am generalizing, but thats the general observation.

Agree with what you have stated here .... but the thing is that this Nafsa nafsi is practised everywhere , you can't only drag Punjabi Pashtun or Pashtun Punjabi in this case , today even brother is not loyal to his brother thn how come a 2 countrymen??? As far as patriotism for Pakistan is concerned, one can't quit love just bcoz few punjabiz are not sincere to pashtuns ? politiciations are corrupt?? or sometimes our rights as being Pashtuns are ignored ??
I believe the love of pashtuns for pakistan is unconditional as i feel myself , even if some unsincere powers make weak tries to crush them or ignore their rights as a Pakistani nati0nal , they will still stand firm and fight to the last drop of their blood , when they realized that the sacred land needs it .

I have read such stuff, circulated by pashtuns, in an attempt to counter the popular belief held by their pakistani "brothers" that 'pathan/pathani' are dumb people with low IQ. This is very sad situation.
In your Urdu para there are some mistakes. I am not correcting you to belittle you but for increasing your knowledge further. First of all the stupid/dumb stereotype is hurled against pashtuns aka "khan sahab/lalay/khocha' ............not against khans in general.
1- Agha khan, founder of mulsim league was not a pashtun but ismaeli of perisan orgin born in karachi. Remember that Khan is/was not only used by mongols but also adopted by turks and people of indo-iranain stock like persians, pashtuns and baloch. Tell this to your punjabi/mohajir countrymen that agha khan was pashtun, they would make fun of you and would hurt your feelings.
2- Liaqat ali khan was a punjabi muslim of karnal, east punjab. Ethnically belonged to marhal clan of jats. Remember that Khan signified noble and upper class heritage in hindostan, so many indigenous Muslims were awarded khan title by mughals and rulers before them.
3- AQ khan indeed says that he is pathan but tell this to indian mohajirs of karachi that urduspeaker AQ khan is pashtun. They would tell you that he is intelligent because he is not pashto speaking cave dweller of north west.

Thanks for increasing my info , actually i copied it from fb without confirmation :P .
i have very little knowledge of history bt as per my info A.Q is a Pakistani Pashtun by ethnicity so what if he belong to urdu speaking family ... urdu speaker ba khpal kar kai agha zamong Khan dy bas .....