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your country worth is less then Somalia, you should worry about rising sea level wiping off BD from face of the planet. Serve your kind right.Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post1. Though Saudi regime official "Yzd Khalifa" flatters Pakistanis on the defence.pk site and lavishes praise on them, Saudi and Saudis are not as pro-Pakistan as he would like people to believe.
I personally knew a Pakistani who lived for 2 years in Saudi and told me of the abuse, even little children trying to spit at him (according to him) and being called "miskeen".
2. I have personally seen a Pakistani being treated in a humiliating way in Saudi, in a very submissive and worried state with some Saudi security officials (maybe police).
Here is a Pakistani video on the abusive nature of Saudis to Pakistani workers.
pakish Special Report,Worst Situation of Pakistani Workers in Saudi Arabia and Kafeel System. - YouTube
Another video:
Pakistan's Muslims not Welcomes in Saudi Arabia & Other Gulf Countries. Hassan Nisar - YouTube
So "Yzd Khalifa" is on defence.pk trying to flatter and woo the Pakistani nationalists there. A lot of his never ending praise for Pakistan is exaggerated. If needs be the Saudis will sell and backstab the Pakistanis if their needs require it, as their building of a closer relationship with India proves.
Nor is the Saudi government as anti-Bangladeshi as "Yzd Khalifa" is and the Saudis did not care about the recent controversial elections in Bangladesh or the hanging of a Jamaati politician, Qader Molla.
"Yzd Khalifa" like most typical flatterers is after something, with all his sweet words for Pakistan on that forum.
3. Many educated Pakistanis are not happy with Saudi influence in Pakistan and view it as dangerous e.g. increased fundamentalism and radicalism and even the potential to cause a Shia-Sunni civil war in the country.
Such people would have little time for "Yzd Khalifa" and his relatively transparent attempts to ingratiate himself with Pakistani nationalists, some of whom are connected to the military.
Keep hating us, the more you hate us it means something right its being done by Pakistan.
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4. Pakistan is a weak state and has seen around 60,000 people killed in the past few years mainly by the TTP, a group whom it is now trying to negotiate with.
It lost half of the country in 1971 and now does not have control over large parts of the country including in Balochistan.
It also easily submitted to American orders to start a war in Pashtun areas of Pakistan after 9/11 with Musharraf claiming that he had no other choice as American official, Armitage, threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the stoneage.
Where was military commando, Musharraf's tough nature and manliness? Why was Pakistan so scared of America if Pakistan is so strong and mighty with its nuclear bomb?
Why is non-nuclear Iran not however scared of Pakistan?
So Pakistan is no guarantor of the continued existence of Saudi Arabia
5. No one knows why the Saudis gave $1.5 billion to the Nawaz Sharif regime but some speculate it was to prevent the Pakistanis from signing a very important gas pipeline deal with Iran, some say it was to get arms for the war in Syria.
The $1.5 billion has temporarily helped the economy but will not have that much long lasting effect if there is no (as most likely) proper management of the economy.
Whilst Saudi stifles Pakistan's economic growth by sabotaging any possible Iranian deals with Pakistan i.e. it wants Pakistan to keep its distance from Saudi Arabia's enemy Iran, it is not doing the same with Pakistan's enemy India and getting closer to it.
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So Saudi is far from the true "friend" of Pakistan it pretends to be on a governmental level, and on a social level Saudis are highly abusive towards Pakistanis.
A Pashtun from Swat wrongly imprisoned in Saudi:
Innocent Pakistani in Saudi Jail - YouTube
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A Pakistani from Karachi imprisoned in Saudi:
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Here is a video where Pakistanis feel they have been symbolically humiliated by the Saudis for their flag not being displayed at a meeting and thus violating diplomatic protocol:
How Saudi Arabia Insulted Islamic Republic Of Pakistan? - YouTube
Another video about how Saudis really treat Pakistanis:
Makkah and Saudi Arabia treat Pakistanis with disgrace - Mubasher Lucman - YouTube* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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If Pakistan was a strong state, which it is not (it depends on financial handouts from America and others) then it would or at the very least should tell the Saudis and Americans that they will have a gas pipeline with Iran whether they (the US and Saudi) like it or not.
However the fact is Pakistan is a weak state, despite daily boasting from Pakistani nationalists about its "nuclear bomb", and has to follow US and Saudi orders in not getting close to Iran, i.e. Pakistan does not have true sovereignty and control over its foreign policy.

A Pakistani gas pipeline with Iran would have helped the Pakistani economy heavily and helped with its energy shortage. This has been vetoed by Pakistan's masters in the USA and Saudi Arabia.

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If Pakistan is weak then BD must be cocroach going by how Indians treat you, humiliate you. Unlike you we don't need to run to India in millions to find something to eat.Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post4. Pakistan is a weak state and has seen around 60,000 people killed in the past few years mainly by the TTP, a group whom it is now trying to negotiate with.
It lost half of the country in 1971 and now does not have control over large parts of the country including in Balochistan.
It also easily submitted to American orders to start a war in Pashtun areas of Pakistan after 9/11 with Musharraf claiming that he had no other choice as American official, Armitage, threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the stoneage.
Where was military commando, Musharraf's tough nature and manliness? Why was Pakistan so scared of America if Pakistan is so strong and mighty with its nuclear bomb?
Why is non-nuclear Iran not however scared of Pakistan?
So Pakistan is no guarantor of the continued existence of Saudi Arabia
5. No one knows why the Saudis gave $1.5 billion to the Nawaz Sharif regime but some speculate it was to prevent the Pakistanis from signing a very important gas pipeline deal with Iran, some say it was to get arms for the war in Syria.
The $1.5 billion has temporarily helped the economy but will not have that much long lasting effect if there is no (as most likely) proper management of the economy.
Whilst Saudi stifles Pakistan's economic growth by sabotaging any possible Iranian deals with Pakistan i.e. it wants Pakistan to keep its distance from Saudi Arabia's enemy Iran, it is not doing the same with Pakistan's enemy India and getting closer to it.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...w/31743417.cms
http://thediplomat.com/2014/02/india...peration-pact/
So Saudi is far from the true "friend" of Pakistan it pretends to be on a governmental level, and on a social level Saudis are highly abusive towards Pakistanis.
A Pashtun from Swat wrongly imprisoned in Saudi:
Innocent Pakistani in Saudi Jail - YouTube
@Toramana
A Pakistani from Karachi imprisoned in Saudi:
Pakistani Caught in Saudi Arab - YouTube
Millions of Bengalis flowing to India to eat, which is ironic considiring India is poorest country in the world. It just shows state of Bengalis. I don't even know why you guys supprted Pakistan if at the end your kind one day will have to run in to hindus to survive. Why did your ancestors hate hindus so much?
And now soon it will be under water, thank god Pakistan lost colony of Bengal 71. Not only you guys are burden but backstabbers.
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Again you are showing how low iq level can get in human being. Pakistan was going to import gas for economic growth which is not possible if whole world put sanctions on you. So whats the point in importing gas then?Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View PostIf Pakistan was a strong state, which it is not (it depends on financial handouts from America and others) then it would or at the very least should tell the Saudis and Americans that they will have a gas pipeline with Iran whether they (the US and Saudi) like it or not.
However the fact is Pakistan is a weak state, despite daily boasting from Pakistani nationalists about its "nuclear bomb", and has to follow US and Saudi orders in not getting close to Iran, i.e. Pakistan does not have true sovereignty and control over its foreign policy.

A Pakistani gas pipeline with Iran would have helped the Pakistani economy heavily and helped with its energy shortage. This has been vetoed by Pakistan's masters in the USA and Saudi Arabia.

Saudi and American foreign ministers.
See we are not weak but not stupids either unlike soon to be under water BD. And we are going to make a gas deal with Qatar, it will be better deal for sure then one with Iran.
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Migrant Worker Nations, Unite!
APRIL 4, 2014
Tahmima Anam
LONDON — When I was growing up outside of Bangladesh, my parents were careful to remind me that we had not become migrants and that our loyalties remained very firmly back home. (My father was a diplomat, and we roamed the world without putting down roots anywhere.) Back then, people left home for places like America, Britain and Australia, returning after many years with children who spoke heavily accented Bangla and complained about the heat. One of my distant relatives spent the entire duration of his vacation from Atlanta holed up in a giant mosquito net drinking only coconut water.
Migration to those countries is still much sought after, but the Bangladeshi migrant today tends to be of a different sort: a worker who goes abroad for a short period of time, perhaps only a few years, with the sole purpose of sending money home. He leaves his family, and his loyalties, behind. These days, as I travel back and forth from Bangladesh, I often see at the Dhaka airport a line of migrant workers, in matching jumpsuits, boarding airplanes bound for construction sites in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.
Every year, hundreds of thousands of Bangladeshis leave home to work abroad, mostly in the Middle East. The money they send back is the single-largest source of foreign exchange earnings for the Bangladeshi economy. As a result, Bangladesh tends to be unduly grateful to any state willing to employ its nationals, and often acts less like a supplier than a supplicant.
But the worker’s journey is perilous. From the moment he steps foot outside his home, he is susceptible to fraud, and often is swindled out of vast sums of money on false promises — fake visas and jobs that don’t exist. If he does arrive legally in a new country, there sometimes is rampant abuse at the other end: low wages or no wages at all, dangerous working places, unsanitary living conditions and, worse, the inability to protest or even escape.
Qatar has recently come under fire for abuses of migrants hired to help prepare for the World Cup soccer tournament in 2022. At the heart of the criticism is kafala, an employment-sponsorship system that exists throughout the Middle East. Though kafala, which ties workers to their employers, is supposed to act as a safety net for workers, abuse is rife. Human Rights Watch describes the practice in Saudi Arabia, by far the biggest employer of Bangladeshi workers, as a system in which employers, in violation of Saudi law, “confiscate passports, withhold wages, and force migrants to work against their will or on exploitative terms.”
As is so often the case, a situation that is bad for migrant men is many times worse for migrant women, most of whom are domestic workers. Though flawed, at least kafala offers some formal guarantees, like restrictions on working hours. But it does not apply to domestic workers; even if they work for a legal sponsor, they have no protections under Saudi labor laws.
In 2009, after the global economic downturn, half as many Bangladeshis went abroad on short-term work contracts as had the year before. And when one employer after another went bankrupt, Bangladeshis already working abroad started returning in droves — at the rate of up to 300 a day. Migration picked up again in 2011 and 2012, but then dropped by almost one-third in 2013. Still, the total of remittances to Bangladesh last year exceeded $13 billion.
Recently, the government has taken some welcome steps to help its emigrants. There are now several nationally funded initiatives to help Bangladeshis travel safely to their jobs abroad: assessments of recruitment agencies, access to loans, training and extended consular services. Under the Overseas Employment and Migrant Workers’ Bill that was passed last year, migrants and their families can lodge both criminal cases and civil complaints for compensation against recruitment agencies that try to defraud them.
These efforts, however, are mostly concentrated on the problems workers face before they set foot out of the country. When it comes to advocating for the rights of workers once they are employed abroad, Bangladesh remains reluctant to ask for better standards for fear that host countries would look elsewhere to satisfy their manpower needs.
It is time for supplier nations like Bangladesh, as well as Nepal, Sri Lanka and India, to take matters into their own hands. They must conduct a coordinated effort to earn better rights for their nationals. If need be, they should refuse to send any new workers to the Middle East until host countries fundamentally change the basis on which they employ migrants. Supplier countries often compete with one another to secure jobs abroad for their people. But it is in their long-term interest to band together in a multinational boycott — even if for only a fixed amount of time — to pressure host countries to improve workers’ conditions. After all, it is in their long-term interest to make clear that the men and women they send abroad to build stadiums or maintain others’ homes are not expendable.
Individuals already know this, of course. On a recent trip home, I met a Bangladeshi woman waiting for her luggage at the arrivals hall in Dhaka airport. She was returning from Jordan because an employer there had treated her poorly. “So what will you do now?” I asked. “I’ll go again,” she replied. “To a better country.”
Tahmima Anam is a writer and anthropologist, and the author of the novel “A Golden Age.”
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Saudi envoy meets Ershad
Reported by: UNBconnect
Reported on: April 6th, 2014 04:10:41 pm

Dhaka, Apr 6 (UNB) – Saudi Ambassador in Dhaka Dr Abdullah Bin Naser Al Busairi on Sunday met Jatiya Party Chairman HM Ershad and discussed various bilateral issues, including the ways how Bangladesh’s ties with Saudi Arabia can be strengthened further.
Ershad, also a Special Envoy to the Prime Minister, discussed the current issues related to Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia during the meeting with the Saudi envoy held at his Banani office, said a JP official.
Earlier, on March 5, the former president met Foreign Minister AH Mahmood Ali and expressed his desire to work to explore the manpower market in the Middle-East.
- See more at: http://unbconnect.com/ershad-envoy-3/#&panel1-8
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Is it possible to transfer this thread to the South Asia sub-forum please if you think it is more appropriate for it to be there?
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1. I personally do not have that much against Saudi Arabia
a: I do not support the overthrow of the Saudi royal family (besides some flippant comments) as that will just bring further chaos and instability to the country, which is not something I want.
b: Iran v Saudi: I would always support Saudi as most of my countrymen probably would too.
c: Prior to finding out how Jamaatis and Pakistanis influence Saudi Arabia to bully Bangladesh (e.g. harassment of workers, sanctions on Bangladesh e.g. ban on recruiting new workers) I had a generally positive view of the country.
In other Bangladeshi forums, the perception of the Saudis was quite positive (as a government not the abuse of workers by individual citizens) and they were seen as a friend.
2. Saudi Arabia is entitled to be as friendly with Pakistan as much as possible but that should not impact on its relations with Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a different country and Bangladesh-Pakistan bi-lateral issues have nothing to do with Saudi.
Saudi should not bully Bangladesh for the sake of Pakistan.
3. Ershad is the former head of the Bangladesh army and former president and is pro-Saudi.
*This Yzd Khalifa is an American national who can make nasty comments on the internet e.g. how the crown prince of Saudi (Muqrin, 2nd in line) would be prepared to invade Qatar, cause trouble but always return to his native Texas if the middle east goes up in flames, whilst Saudis have to live there as it is their homeland. I do not think he is representative of the Saudi people or even of some of their current strategic policy making.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Saudi Arabia: 'ID cards revolution' inflames YouTube against regime
Sunday, 06 April 2014 21:10
Al-Dusari: My salary is 1900 Riyals. The authority is preoccupied fighting the bombings while enjoying alone the revenues of the petroleum. The maxim "stave your dog it will obey you" is no longer valid.
Al-Ghamdi: I call upon the youth to participate by recording videos in the same way.
Al-Harbi: The authority has established centres for having dialogue with the Jews and the Americans but has not yet thought of having a dialogue with its people.
Al-Asiri: Al Saud, you have stolen every thing including even Islam and the Messenger. I warn that the first Saudi republic is on its way.
Al-Juhani: If the state fails to meet the demands of the youth the repercussions will be grave indeed.
Under the emblem of "the ID cards revolution" the Saudi youth protest movement has shifted from twitter to YouTube. A group of Saudi young men have begun recording individual video clips separately to convey messages to the king complaining living hardships, criticising the performance of the authority and denouncing corruption.
This started nearly a week ago, more specifically on the 30th of March, when a young man called Abd Al-Aziz Muhammad Al-Dusari published a video clip on YouTube under the title "a message to the king" in which he complained from his living condition due to the low salary he receives, which does not exceed 1900 riyals (500 dollars) and which, according to him, does not suffice his essential living needs. He criticised the preoccupation of the authority with fighting "bombings" and not paying attention to the needs of its citizens. He demanded improving the living conditions of Saudis from oil revenues that are, in his own words, enjoyed solely by the royal family. The he pulled his ID card in front of the camera announcing his full name to the public in what seemed an act of defiance to the authority and its expected repressive response.
This is the translation of what he says in his video clip:
"Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God. I am a Saudi citizen. I only receive 1900 riyals. I ask you in the name of God, O Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, is this amount sufficient for the dowry or for the car or for the house? We have had enough. And you (do nothing but) blame those who carry out bombings and you blame this and that. Give us (what is duly ours) of the petroleum, which you keep to yourself and your children to enjoy. Here, this is my name, Abdul Aziz Muhammad Fahd Al-Dusari. Give us what is duly ours."
The Saudi Authorities moved immediately arresting Al-Dusary and charging him with incitement, sedition and rebelling against the ruler. This case has stirred up a wave of criticisms within the ranks of Saudi youth. Some young men have followed Al-Dusari's example and recorded their own videos in which they express their solidarity with him and criticise corruption within the ranks of the ruling regime in the Kingdom.
The second message was posted by Abdullah Al-Ghamdi who expressed solidarity with Al-Dusari's demands and called on young men to express solidarity with him by means of recording similar video clips. Al-Ghamdi criticised corruption inside the kingdom as a result of which few people enjoy wealth and prosperity while the rest of the people are starving, as he put it.
The following is the translation of his video clip:
"Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God. Good evening to you all. Today, I watched a video clip for a Saudi young man called Abdul Aziz Muhammad Al-Dusari complaining from low salaries and their insufficiency addressing the king in his statement. By virtue of my own judgement and knowledge of the situation I support what the young man said in his statement and message to the king. I call on everyone to participate using the same method so that (our) voice may reach the Custodian of the Two Holy Shrines and so that he may learn about the situation we are in of low income and the spread of corruption and oppression. It is neither acceptable nor sensible that only a small group of people, whether those governing or others that are corrupt, are enjoying state wealth while the rest of the population is starving and suffering because of poverty and oppression. Therefore, I support what the young man said and hereby I show you my ID card with my full details. I am Abdullah Mabruk bin Othman from Disha. I wish that everyone takes part (in this effort) using the same method. May God's peace and prayers be upon Muhammad."
The third message came from Saud Al-Harbi who started with an expression of solidarity with his comrades. He warned that this dynamic may soon spread to the street and criticised the Authority that is having dialogue with everyone including the Jews and the Americans but it has never occurred to it to have a dialogue with its own people.
Here is the translation of his video clip:
"Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God. May God's peace and prayers be upon His Messenger. I would like to talk about the video clip of brother Abdullah Al-Ghamdi and the video clip of brother Abdul Aziz Al-Dusari. They demanded the improvement of citizens' living conditions. These of course are our demands, the demands of the entire people. We lost our voices talking in vain about them. Our demands are easy to find. You do not need to open a twitter account or something of the sort to know them. You will find them in the rubbish bins of Al-Tuwaijri. Do not force the people to resort to a peaceful protest dynamic. Do not force the people to take to the streets. Simply put, the number of black (word indistinct) cars is a lot fewer than the number of free men. It would be easy for us to (take to the streets) to demand our rights, peacefully of course. So, I beg you, I beg you, listen to our voice. Please listen to our voice. You have a national dialogue centre. You have had dialogue with the Jewish and the Christian and tomorrow you will be having dialogue with Obama. So, I beg you. Listen to our voice, listen to your voice, meet our demands. We need housing. We need to live a decent life. And here is our ID card: Saud Mardi Abdullah Al-Harbi."
The Saudi authorities arrested all three men one after the other and charged them with incitement, sedition and rebelling against the ruler. Consequently, there has been more discussion among the youth about this. Some of them pursued the same methodology of recording video clips in solidarity with the detained young men.
The next message came from Abul Rahman Al-Asiri who criticised the authorities for arresting the three young men who preceded him simply for demanding their rights.
The following is the translation of his video clip:
"Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God. I am citizen Abdul Rahman Ali Ahmad Ghraib Al-Asiri from Tuhama of Asir. I have watched a video clip for some repeatable and kind young men from our country, namely Al-Dusari, Al-Ghamdi and Al-Harbi. They were demanding their rights, their most basic rights. They were imprisoned the following day. The problem is with you Al Saud. You deliberately seek to humiliate and impoverish the people. The poor fellow Al-Dusari says "my salary is 1900", by Allah this is not sufficient to pay for dinner for one of your children. The following day we saw one of the princes, one of your children, who bought a gold plated car. The problem is with you Al Saud. You have stolen everything. You have stolen our name and our country and you have annexed us to you. By what right have you done that? You have even stolen Islam. It has become Saudi Islam, the one that belongs to Al-Fawzan, to Al Al-Sheikh and to you. You have even distorted it. You have stolen Messenger who has become Saudi. As for petroleum, instead of distributing it and giving to the people, you have (pursued a policy of) empoverishing and humiliating the people. And if you ever distribute petroleum you distribute it to the enemies of the Ummah, the Sisi and the Christians of Lebanon who look down upon the Arabs and see them as nothing but trash. The problem is with you. You have stolen everything. This is unlawful, this is unjust. This is unjust. I am a medical doctor. I trained in (National) Guards and military hospitals and in hospitals belonging to the Ministry of Health. Once we had to place three patients in one bed. Where is this Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz? You seem to see nothing! I am demanding the rights. The first right I demand is (to ask) why have you imprisoned them? All they did was to demand their rights. Why have you imprisoned them? It is from the man who bought a gold plated care that we seek to demand our right. While I am recording this clip you are busy giving an oath of allegiance to Migrin. This is a selling / buying process as if the people are nothing but a piece of furniture. You sell and buy when you tell people come and pay allegiance. No, this will not do. This is unlawful. And when we speak you imprison us. You imprison us or you tell us to leave the country. This is not your country alone. No. The people demand their rights. We want freedom. I warn you. We want what is right for our country. Yemen, Tunisia and the others are in the second republic (phase). Saudi Arabia will enter the first republic (phase) if you do not move and apply reason. And for the benefit of the secret police, because I know their tactics, here is (my ID card). Abdul Rahman Ali Ahmad Ghraib Al-Asiri. Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God."
The fifth message was recorded by Mu'adh bin Sulaiman Al-Juhani. He criticised the authority for imprisoning the youth who are only demanding their rights. He himself demands that the state distribute wealth to the people, build housing estates, employ the unemployed, and increase the salaries or else repercussions would rather grave, as he put it.
The following is the translation of his clip:
"Peace be upon you and the blessings and mercy of God. I direct this message to Al Saud. When the despotic king [reddens his cheeks] we flock to him with swords. You have stolen the people's wealth and when the people demand their rights you imprison them. What religion is this and what humanity? We demand the government to distribute the wealth fairly among the people and to stop stealing it you and your children. We demand the building of housing estates, employing the unemployed and increasing the salaries of employees. Otherwise the repercussions will be rather grave. And this is my ID card. I am Mu'adh Muhammad Sulaiman Al-Juhani from the Blessed Hijaz. May God's peace and prayers be upon Muhammad."
Video clip on YouTube by Al-Shammari
"Peace be upon you. I have three messages. The first message is directed to the people. Naturally, we all wish for reform except, of course, for the House of Saud. We as people wish for reform and wish to see things change (for the better). But, to be fair, whoever sees things will discover that it would impossible for reform to take place under the banner of the House of Saud. It is impossible, just impossible, by the Almighty God. These people are hostile to Islam, they are traitors, they are lackeys. They sold Iraq and they sold Palestine to Israel and they are hostile to all the Arab revolutions. The people are destitute. 25 per cent of the people are below the poverty line. All of this and (ours) is the richest country in the world. 70 per cent of the people cannot find housing. 60 % of the land is in the hands of the princes. And who ever utters a word demanding reform will be thrown in jail. Evidently, the young men who a few days ago demanded reform have been imprisoned. Why? What did they say to deserve imprisonment by you? As the proverb says: "evil and arrogant". You do not like to hear people demand reform! You just want them to pay lip service to you? Praise and thanks be to God. By God, even the Pharaoh was not like that. So, my message to the people is: rebel. Rebel because reform will not occur unless the House of Saud is no more.
My second message is directed at the Ulema. If you consider rebellion against the ruler is unlawful, this does not justify your defence of them and paying lip service to oppression and oppressors. By God, some Ulema, and some laymen too, justify oppression by the House of Saud in a manner that makes one suspect that they are none other than secret police. Why are you justifying this? What motivates you to defend them in this way? Some (much earlier) ulema used to prohibit rebellion against the rulers but they used at the same time to denounce them and even curse them. There is no contradiction (between the two acts). Regrettably, some ulema are not content with justifying (their oppression) but they also praise them. That is one thing. But if you consider rebellion against the oppressive ruler to be mandatory, then why are you silent? Why are you silent? I would like to know. You are (supposed to be) an example (to be followed by others). The House of Saud are oppressing (the people) and stealing (the wealth) while you are preoccupying the people with (trivial matters such as) growing the beard, shortening the gown and the technique of uttering praise post prayer. Ok, these are part of jurisprudence, we do not dispute. But, to what extent are we in need of this (type of) jurisprudence. Are these things more important than justice? Gold Almighty says: "We sent down our messengers with the book so that people establish justice and balance". He made justice an objective of sending messengers and books (to humanity) while you only care about growing the beard and shortening the gown. Yesterday, during the Friday sermon the imam spoke about the rewards allocated for those who fast on Mondays and Thursdays. You may say to me, so what, where is the problem (in this)? I shall tell you what is the problem. When oppression is so widespread and when corruption is so widespread and when all types of deviation are widespread while you are giving (the Friday) sermon about the reward (awaiting these who) fast on Mondays and Thursdays, there must be something wrong with you. This means you are completely detached from reality. So, my message to the ulema is that you should speak the truth. You should tell the oppressor "you are an oppressor". By God Almighty, the people will never respect you or appreciate you if you do not tell the House of Saud the truth to their faces.
My third and final message is directed at the House of Saud. Naturally, I am not (here) to demand or wish (anything) from you. Frankly and clearly, we have already lost all hope in you. Since the day you detained those young men who demanded reform, I feel you live in a world and we live in a different world altogether. However, I would like to say just one word. I would like to say that your end is drawing near, you lackeys. Your end is near. And this is my name: Muhammad Mut'ib Abdullah Al-Shammari."
Translation of a video clip by Al-Amri
"In the name of God most Gracious Most Merciful. May God's peace and prayers be upon Prophet Muhammad and all his companions. I would like to extend my thanks to the brothers who have demanded the rights of the citizens. My Allah reward them on our behalf. It is your legitimate right to demand you rights. So long you are on the (path of) truth, we are the supporters of Truth. The brothers have said enough regarding demands for the rights of the citizens.
The money that is sent abroad, to (support) coups and other things for the purpose of protecting your thrones, (you'd better) give to your people. Empower your own people instead. It is your people that will protect you. I ask you by God, (is it acceptable that) you have been so disrespectful of your people to the extent that a minister from Al Al-Sheikh comes out to say that we are protecting our asses? Shame on you by Allah. Not only is the citizen in dire need but is being humiliated by you. What a mess.
The detainees, the detainees, oh Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, (include) scholars and ulema. Whoever speaks the truth, you imprison him. By Allah this is a disaster. Sheikh Khalid Al-Rashid who is a defender of the Messenger of God, you have imprisoned him for 15 years? And then you say you implement the Law of God? No by God, this is not the Law of God. Never, never. The same thing happened to Sheikh Sulaiman Al-Ulwan. This by God is a strange thing. Fear god. There is this poor weak woman who is powerless and helpless, and you have imprisoned her. (Something about Muhammad bin Nayif - indistinct). I am present and my name is Jabir Salih Hamdan Al-Amri. This on the one side.
On the other side, whoever calls for the implementation of Shari'ah is accused of terrorism. If demanding the implementation of Shari'ah (amounts to being accused of) terrorism, (I'd say) welcome. If demanding our legitimate rights is (considered) stirring up sedition, then we seek God's help. Consider us fomenters of trouble. To (give my claim) more credibility that the people are suffering, I shall move elsewhere to video from it. Peace be upon you.
My second message is from the bedside of my father in the hospital. May God cure him and provide him with recovery. My father is the father of detainee Ali Salih Al-Amri who has been held inside Al-Ha'ir prison for the past 12 years. He was sentenced to three years but has not so far been released. There is no charge whatsoever apart from having god to (perform) jihad in 1410 (of Hijrah). Apart from that he has never been charged (of any crime). Frankly, we have not kept quiet for 12 years out of cowardice or fear. No, by God. We have appealed to the king, we have appealed to the Court of Grievances, we have appealed to the human rights (council), we have appealed to prince Nayif, we have appealed to Prince Muhammad bin Nayif, but to no avail. He was sentence for three years and now they are retrying him and fabricating new charges to justify keep him locked up for 12 year. For 12 years we have left no one but appealed to by letters and by faxes etc. You tell us your door is open? For 12 years, oh Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, I and my father have spared no effort. Of the open doors you talk about we have found none whatsoever. Muhammad bin Nayif has burnt the heart of this elderly man. May God burn his heart and provide us with victory in the life before the Hereafter.
I have only spoken and recorded this clip to clear my responsibility. I am not going to ask you once again whether you will release him or not. It is all in the hand of God. But I wanted to convey to you a picture that is already known to many people.
This is the father of detainee Ali Salih Hamdan Al-Amri whose nickname is Abd Al-Majid Al-Tabuki and I am his brother. May the peace and mercy of God be with you."
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The Saudi regime is in trouble.
1. The people are not happy and are becoming more and more discontented.
2. The Saudi regime claims to "love" democracy and be concerned about the democratic rights of people in Syria.
However their "love" and "concern" for democracy is bizarre in that they don't seem to care about democracy for Saudis.
3. The Saudis criticized the Syrians for clamping down on the opposition. However the Syrians allowed demonstrations, which they then claimed turned violent and were hijacked by extremists.
Saudi does not allow mass demonstrations at all and is very repressive.
It has thousands of political prisoners in jail.
4. Regime officials such as Yzd Khalifa, receiving riyals and dollars from their masters in Riyadh should be worried about their own volatile and unstable country and not insulting hardworking Bangladeshis whose blood and sweat - along with other nationalities - has helped to make Saudi the relatively developed economy that it is today.
Yzd Khalifa type Saudi regime thugs, and their secret police have tracked down some of these video makers and imprisoned them. May Allah protect them from thugs like Yzd Khalifa and the Saudi regime.
Ameen, thumma ameen.Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 11-28-2014, 08:40 AM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Yzd Khalifa had been going on to Defence.pk and trying to woo Pakistanis with sweet words and excessive flattery. He would even attack Bangladeshis if they disagreed with Pakistanis on something.
His psychophancy towards Pakistan was on another level.
However no one knows what this thug's real agenda was. Was it to secure Pakistani military support for Saudi Arabia?
Who knows.
However one thing is clear. He is a liar and a racist.
He has now left the Defence.pk hate-site and has hopefully been disciplined by Saudi authorities for openly talking about sensitive issues of national security on public forums e.g. 2nd Crown Prince Muqrin's views on other Gulf states, laughing at the beheading of Iranian women in Saudi, abusing Bangladeshis etc.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Homeless Muslim migrant rescues Israeli woman in Rome
Bangladeshi immigrant in Rome hailed as a hero after diving into River Tiber to rescue Israeli woman who had jumped from a bridge.
By Ariel David | May 16, 2015 | 1:25 PM | 5
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ROME - A homeless Muslim immigrant is being hailed as a hero by Italians after he rescued an Israeli woman who had jumped into the River Tiber in what police say was a suicide attempt.

On Tuesday, the 32-year-old Bangladeshi, Sobuj Khalifa, spotted the woman from the bridge under which he had found refuge and quickly dove after her into the river, which cuts through the center of the historic city and is notoriously polluted.
Video of the rescue shows Khalifa holding on to the woman with one arm and swimming for the riverbank with the other, while rescuers arrive on the scene and people atop the bridge clap and shout "bravo!"
"I saw her fall from the bridge, I thought she was dead" he is seen telling police officers in broken Italian. "But (when I reached her) I saw her eyes moving, I thought she could be still alive."
The 55-year-old Israeli was taken to hospital and is in good condition, a spokesman for Italian police in Rome told Haaretz. Her identity cannot be revealed under Italy's privacy laws, he said, adding that the suicide attempt may have been triggered by the end of a love story.
Footage of the rescue begins at the 2:50 mark
The rescue was widely reported across Italy, which, along with the rest of Europe, is in the midst of a stormy debate on immigration, as thousands of people attempt to flee war torn regions of North Africa and the Middle East by crossing the Mediterranean Sea in rickety boats.
"I am not a hero," Khalifa told Italian television TV2000. "God wants us to help everybody."
Authorities rewarded Khalifa by granting him a permit to stay and work in Italy. He had been living illegally in Italy for eight years, and has been homeless for four.
Rome Mayor Ignazio Marino wrote on his Facebook page that he had spoken to Khalifa to thank him for his "heroic and humane" act.
Riccardo Pacifici, the head of Rome's Jewish Community, told Haaretz that the woman, who is Jewish, is now in psychiatric care and the community is in touch with her family. Pacifici told Haaretz that the city's Jews want to thank Khalifa for his bravery and are working to find him a job and housing.
1. A Bangladeshi man in Rome saved a Jew's life. The Jewish woman had tried to drown herself, apparently after the end of a relationship.
2. It is Saudi state policy to vilify Bangladeshis as a nation of criminals.
Saudi prince and thug "Yzd Khalifa" described Bangladeshis as "savages" and "criminals", despite Pakistanis carrying out far more crimes and of a serious nature.
The UAE is also part of this racist anti-Bangladeshi hate campaign.
Regimes like Saudi Arabia and the UAE need to learn that they need to stop promoting hatred including their racist hate campaign against Bangladeshis in the gulf most of whom are simply law-abiding workers who are subject to poor often inhumane conditions and abuse.
The Saud tribe has had a reshuffle with tribal chief, Salman kicking out Muqrin as Saud tribe no.2 and replacing him with the notorious thug, ibn Nayef.
Also the Saud tribe (some say at the orders of the US) have appointed a character called Adil Jubeir as their foreign minister.

Adil Jubeir, the new foreign minister for the Saud tribe.
Hopefully the state-run Saudi media will end their vicious anti-Bangladeshi hate campaign which included running false stories of accusing Bangladeshis of carrying out gang rapes carried out by other nationalities.

Notorious Saudi propagandist, Ali Al Ghamdi in the centre, for decades Ghamdi has been trying to destabilize Bangladesh for Pakistani interests including during his days in the Saudi foreign ministry. The Saud-tribe run media regularly feature anti-Bangladeshi propaganda by him.
For Yzd Khalifa and other Saudi and UAE thugs, wealth has made you arrogant and creatures like you think abusing poorer human beings brings you pleasure. Remember the world is a big place and a dynamic one. Change is constant and the world is bigger than the Najd (homeland of Musaylamah and others) or the UAE. One day you will no longer be able to kill, rape and torture as you do now.Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 05-20-2015, 06:47 PM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Saudi diplomat accused of raping two maids uses immunity to leave India
Indian foreign ministry says official departed freely as Nepali servant tells how alarm was raised, leading to their escape from captivity and abuse

Indian women’s rights demonstrators hold a protest outside Saudi Arabia’s embassy in New Delhi over the alleged rape of two Nepali maids by a diplomat.
Jason Burke in Delhi
Thursday 17 September 2015 04.46 BST Last modified on Friday 18 September 2015 00.50 BST
A Saudi diplomat accused of holding captive, beating and repeatedly raping two Nepali women hired as domestic servants in his luxury apartment near New Delhi has left India under diplomatic immunity.
Indian foreign ministry spokesman Vikas Swarup issued a statement on Wednesday night saying the diplomat “who is allegedly accused of abusing two Nepali maids has left India”. The diplomat was protected by the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations, Swarup said, giving no further details.
Indian police raided the diplomat’s residence in the satellite town of Gurgaon last weekend and told reporters they found two Nepali women employed as maids. The police later opened an inquiry into allegations made by the two women that they had been held against their will, denied food and water, beaten and repeatedly raped by up to seven men at a time over a period of at least 15 days.
The Saudi Arabian embassy issued a statement describing the allegations as “completely baseless” said it had lodged an official complaint about the raid on the apartment, which it said was a breach of diplomatic privilege.
Police investigations stalled when officers were unable to question the diplomat, who was reported to have moved with his family into the Saudi Arabian embassy in Delhi due to his diplomatic status. Police officers had sought the Indian foreign ministry’s help obtaining access to the accused man and senior Indian diplomats asked the Saudi envoy to seek his cooperation in the inquiry.
Under the Vienna convention, which entered into force in 1964, diplomats and their family members enjoy a high degree of legal protection in countries where they are posted and cannot be arrested or detained for any crime.
Workers with an NGO told the Guardian both women came from remote rural parts of Nepal and were sent to Saudi Arabia as domestic servants by human traffickers before returning to Delhi with their new employer. Such networks send thousands of women to India from Nepal, and hundreds at least to the Gulf, every year.
Nepal was hit by a devastating earthquake in April that destroyed hundreds of thousands of homes and livelihoods and left many destitute, increasing the vulnerability of millions of women to such gangs. One of the two women was reported to have lost her home in the disaster.
Reports of medical examinations of the victims leaked to local media appeared to support the women’s description of repeated abuse.
The women, aged 30 and 50, were rescued on 7 September from the 10th and 12th floor of an apartment block after a third, recently hired maid raised the alarm.
“She [the recently hired maid] realised what was going on and we shared our ordeal with her. She was smart … she threatened them and left a few days later and she helped us get out,” one alleged victim told the AFP news agency after arriving in Kathmandu last week.
Police in Nepal have made several arrests and say they are trying to trace a key agent who may have trafficked hundreds of women from the poor south Asian state to India and the Gulf.
The incident prompted women’s rights activists to protest outside the Saudi embassy in New Delhi, demanding the diplomat’s arrest. Indian campaigners said allowing the accused diplomat to depart amounted to deserting the women.
The allegations and police inquiry posed a diplomatic dilemma for India. Narendra Modi, the prime minister, will soon visit Saudi Arabia, which supplies significant quantities of oil to the emerging economic power and also hosts around two million Indian workers. However there are deep concerns in Delhi about China’s growing influence in Nepal, and increasing India’s influence in the neighbouring Himalayan state is a key foreign policy objective.
Indian foreign ministry says official departed freely as Nepali servant tells how alarm was raised, leading to their escape from captivity and abuse
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The Saudis have the same problem with their prince in America abusing female servants. Truly a disgusting family, the Saud family tree should be chopped down, its progeny castrated.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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