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  • #16
    What a shame that instead of wholeheartedly condemning such barbarous acts as in Peshawar and Nairobi , we are falling in intricacies, nuances and explanations.

    This is a clear act of atrocity by Taliban and their allies. No body else can think of such heinous act of cruelty. Only terrorists can perpetrate such inhuman violent act. Terrorist may deny or accept the responsibility but this is an act of terrorism by terrorists and of no body else.

    Now government of Pakistan has no right to negotiate with Taliban. The only solution is to kill them one by one or arrest them or subdue them totally. This is a war and wars are fought in battlefield not negotiated when the war is going on.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Badlun View Post
      What a shame that instead of wholeheartedly condemning such barbarous acts as in Peshawar and Nairobi , we are falling in intricacies, nuances and explanations.

      This is a clear act of atrocity by Taliban and their allies. No body else can think of such heinous act of cruelty. Only terrorists can perpetrate such inhuman violent act. Terrorist may deny or accept the responsibility but this is an act of terrorism by terrorists and of no body else.

      Now government of Pakistan has no right to negotiate with Taliban. The only solution is to kill them one by one or arrest them or subdue them totally. This is a war and wars are fought in battlefield not negotiated when the war is going on.

      Do you have evidence that Taliban did this or are you just assuming?
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      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

      Originally posted by Karachi
      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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      • #18
        the first thing to do is stop the drone strikes. These terrorists attacks are horrible and there is no justification for these at all, however we have to look at the big picture in all cases, and not let emotions take over. the drones have killed thousands of innocent people, are those not terrorist attacks? all these random attacks are happening because of what America is doing in those areas.

        Also Pakistan as a state is responsible for what is happening, they have totally allowed America to do whatever it wants, Pakistan army and establishment is responsible for this chaos.
        Last edited by Karachi; 09-22-2013, 09:28 PM.

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        • #19
          And Pakis say they're nation was created in "the light of Islam" yet there are Christians.

          What a joke of a country.
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
            And Pakis say they're nation was created in "the light of Islam" yet there are Christians.

            What a joke of a country.

            muslims are assulted from all sides in pakistan, the government, westerners, and salafis. its no surprise that christians aren't faring any better.
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
              Do you have evidence that Taliban did this or are you just assuming?
              Taliban suicide attack on Pakistani church leaves dozens dead

              Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community
              Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community



              The same has also been confirmed by NY Times, Times of India, Zee News and some Pakistani newspapers. Just search Peshawar Taliban church attacks and you will get loads of evidence. Who else can do such a terrible attack?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                Taliban suicide attack on Pakistani church leaves dozens dead

                Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community
                Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community



                The same has also been confirmed by NY Times, Times of India, Zee News and some Pakistani newspapers. Just search Peshawar Taliban church attacks and you will get loads of evidence. Who else can do such a terrible attack?

                The article doesn't mention who's done it, it just acknowledged that there are various different militant radical groups in Pakistan. Terrorists carried out the attack, which terrorists though? might be the al-Qaida type terrorists or it might be a secular terrorists or even foreigners. I don't believe everything i read - we are living in a time where governments kill their own people as excuses to invade country's, we live in a time where mass murderinge of people are carried out indirectly by third party's for political gains. How do they know it was a suicide by the way was there a CCTV camera or something - you have to question everything nowdays because the general public are being made fools of.

                R.i.p to the deceased, hope the families find peace again one day.
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                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                Originally posted by Karachi
                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                  might be the al-Qaida type terrorists

                  Al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahri has issued his first specific guidelines for jihad, urging restraint in attacking other Muslim sects and non-Muslims

                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
                    Maybe I should have highlighted the relevant part of the verse but i think it is pretty explicit and relevant to this incidence.

                    Let's hope whoever carried out this atrocity is brought to justice. Most of these christians in Peshawar are really poor "jamadaran", (cleaners). They already do jobs that no one in peshawar will do. Really feel sorry for them.
                    A more general and appropriate verse would be:

                    Surah Al-Maeda
                    O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allâh as just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Well-Acquainted with what you do. (8)
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                      The article doesn't mention who's done it, it just acknowledged that there are various different militant radical groups in Pakistan. Terrorists carried out the attack, which terrorists though? might be the al-Qaida type terrorists or it might be a secular terrorists or even foreigners. I don't believe everything i read - we are living in a time where governments kill their own people as excuses to invade country's, we live in a time where mass murderinge of people are carried out indirectly by third party's for political gains. How do they know it was a suicide by the way was there a CCTV camera or something - you have to question everything nowdays because the general public are being made fools of.

                      R.i.p to the deceased, hope the families find peace again one day.
                      Even the title of the newspaper say it
                      Taliban suicide attack on Pakistani church leaves dozens dead
                      Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                        Even the title of the newspaper say it
                        Taliban suicide attack on Pakistani church leaves dozens dead
                        Attack on congregation leaving service in Peshawar is most deadly in history of Pakistan's Christian community
                        What Manzareh is saying is merely labeling something a "Taliban attack" doesn't make it so.

                        However as Randolph pointed out that TTP have claimed responsibility. We'll see what turns up. But yes i think it is MOST LIKELY TTP.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #27
                          My classmate lost his cousin and uncle.

                          I had met his cousin,he was a student of kabir medical college peshawar.last we met was in the last week of june this year on our short tour to shahzeb lake in shinkiari,Mansehra.

                          I am like all dead since yesteday.

                          Though Proud of my Pakistani christian Brothers.And there response to the incidence.i am more proud of my christian brothers today than the fellow muslims.
                          "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                          • #28
                            Respect to the Pakistani Christians and the families of the victims that acknowledge Islam is not the culprit in this tragedy, the aim of whoever did this was to create friction and further increase disunity, if there is any disunity and further friction from this then the 70+ people that were murdered play into the hands of the transgressors, in order to respect the dead people from all walks of faith and nationality need to stand together against such anarchy.
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                            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                            Originally posted by Karachi
                            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                              Respect to the Pakistani Christians and the families of the victims that acknowledge Islam is not the culprit in this tragedy, the aim of whoever did this was to create friction and further increase disunity, if there is any disunity and further friction from this then the 70+ people that were murdered play into the hands of the transgressors, in order to respect the dead people from all walks of faith and nationality need to stand together against such anarchy.
                              very mature response from the christian brothers

                              LAHORE / PESHAWAR: Churches of Pakistan have appealed to the public to avoid rioting on the streets, Express News reported Tuesday. This appeal was made after protests and rioting broke out in the country following the Peshawar church attack yesterday.
                              They have asked that people stop blocking traffic and avoid destruction and general disturbance of peace in the country.
                              Christians demonstrated in towns and cities around Pakistan, including Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar and Faisalabad, to protest against the violence and demand better protection from the authorities.
                              The attack on All Saints church in the northwestern city of Peshawar after a service on Sunday is believed to be the deadliest ever to target Pakistan’s small Christian minority.


                              time to call the Talks with taliban a bluff

                              as a dead taliban is a good taliban.even if the death of pakistan rise to millions.we should fight them until and unless we make them past tense
                              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                                very mature response from the christian brothers



                                http://tribune.com.pk/story/608084/p...no-to-rioting/

                                time to call the Talks with taliban a bluff

                                as a dead taliban is a good taliban.even if the death of pakistan rise to millions.we should fight them until and unless we make them past tense
                                oh yes, the "army" will "fight" the "taliban"

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