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    Saudi Arabia, US to face Syrian revenge

    Should the U.S. launch a Mideast attack, the Islamist Hezbollah has threatened, its “23,000 … martyrdom-seeking forces” are prepared to fight back by attacking Saudi Arabia and western oil interests in the region.

    Sheikh Wathiq al-Battat, the secretary-general of the Shi’ite Hezbollah in Iraq, has warned that his Jaysh al-Mukhtar army will target oil installations and ports in predominantly Sunni Saudi Arabia if the U.S. attacks Syria or, by implication, should there be an attack on Iran, as U.S. President Barack Obama has threatened to do.



    Al-Battat, whose al-Mukhtar army is an offshoot of the Lebanese Hezbollah, said that he would target Saudi Arabia’s oil installations in the Saudi Arabia’s Shi’a-controlled eastern province and at selected ports, including the ports of Abqaiq, Juaymah and Ras Tanura, one of the largest in the world, according to sources.

    The attacks in Saudi Arabia also would include oil and natural gas pipelines, power lines and communication towers.

    The attacks, al-Battat said, would be aimed at harming the West’s economy by stopping the flow of crude oil to western countries.

    “We will cut the West’s economic artery in Saudi Arabia by attacking Saudi ports and oil installations,” al-Battat told the Iranian news agency, Farsnews.

    He also said that Syria will be the beginning of the end of Saudi Arabia, since the Saudi monarchy is “the main party which has encouraged and masterminded war plans against Syria.”

    In that regard, al-Battat pointed to Saudi support for Islamist militant foreign fighters from various Central Asian, Middle East and North African countries, ostensibly under the direction of the former Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

    Al-Battat’s warning also comes following a reported secret meeting that took place in early August between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Bandar in Moscow.

    At the meeting, which the Russian Embassy in Washington wouldn’t deny to WND had occurred, even though it was supposed to be secret, Bandar said he controlled the switch of the foreign fighters not only Syria, but also the Islamist militants fighting in predominantly Muslim provinces in southern Russia.

    The Saudi prince also said that he could guarantee the protection of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, against attacks from the Islamist militants.

    Sochi is located near the provinces that the Islamist militants want to separate from Russia and turn into a Caucasus Emirates.

    Bandar reportedly admitted that the North Caucasus militants had moved into Syria in cooperation with the Saudis.

    “We use them in the face of the Syrian regime, and we can guarantee that they won’t have any role or influence in the political future of Syria,” Bandar told Putin.

    “We know that you have been supporting these terrorist Chechen groups for more than a decade,” an irate Putin told Bandar.



    Militants attack children in Russian town of Beslan, Saudi Arabia's Bandar allegedly threatened to use terrorists against Russia again.





    Children murdered in Beslan.



    Bandar bin Sultan, Saudi spychief who allegedly threatened Russia with terrorism.



    Saudi Arabia supported the Pakistani regime and army when it massacred and raped Muslims in East Pakistan. The Saudi regime is a staunch supporter of the radical fundamentalist organization, "Jamaat e Islami". Saudi Arabia has a policy of harassing Bangladeshi workers whenever there is an Awami League government in power.



    The notorious war criminal supporter and apologist Ali Al Ghamdi, who regularly writes in the Saudi press to harass Bangladesh for war crimes trials against Jamaati leaders. Ghamdi is a supporter of war criminals and highly anti-Bangladeshi, and extremely pro-Pakistan.

    If Putin would switch his support for Syria and Iran, Bandar promised Putin a major oil deal including the prospect that Russia and Saudi Arabia basically would control world oil pricing.

    Putin reportedly was livid over the meeting, and subsequent reports, although unconfirmed, said that if the U.S. attacked Syria, Russia would attack Saudi Arabia.



    Russia's naval presence in the Persian Gulf and middle east.



    Al-Battat’s warning comes as the U.S. and Russia are in the midst of negotiations to get Syria to turn over its chemical weapons to international inspection.

    At the same time, the Obama administration said the military option remains on the table in using U.S. military force to eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons capability.

    Critics of the administration have stated that the lack of military action now will only embolden other countries with chemical and biological weapons to use them without fear of military reprisal.

    Critics also believe it will signal to Iran that there will be no consequence beyond sanctions over its continued nuclear development program.

    The U.S., Israel and other western countries believe Tehran’s nuclear enrichment program is meant to develop nuclear weapons, although the Iranians have vehemently denied the charge.

    As a consequence, Obama on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” said that the U.S. still is prepared to act militarily to halt Iran’s nuclear program. This latest threat comes despite efforts to pursue a diplomatic solution over Syria instead of a military strike over its alleged use of chemical weapons on Aug. 21 that killed a reported 1,429 Syrians, including some 400 children, by one count.

    The foreign-backed Syrian opposition forces accused the Syrian government of launching that chemical attack. Damascus, however, has vehemently denied the accusation, saying the attack was carried out by the militants inside their controlled area on the outskirts of Damascus as a false flag operation – an attack designed to push the U.S. and the West to take military action.

    “I think what the Iranians understand is that the nuclear issue is a far larger issue for us than the chemical weapons issue, that the threat against Israel that a nuclear Iran poses is much closer to our core interests,” Obama said. “My suspicion is that the Iranians recognize they shouldn’t draw a lesson that we haven’t struck Syria to think we won’t strike Iran.”

    If the U.S. were to launch a military strike against Syria or, by implication, Iran, al-Battat said that he would unleash his group of “23,000 fully trained and equipped martyrdom-seeking forces, who can blow up the U.S. interests in Iraq and the Persian Gulf at any time if the U.S. commits such a stupid act.”

    Al-Battat has close links to Iran and claims to be “ideologically bound to the authority of the fiqh,” or a backer of the Iranian regime, which is guided by the Qur’an and Shari’ah law.

    F. Michael Maloof, senior staff writer for the WND/ G2Bulletin, is a former security policy analyst in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He can be contacted at mmaloof@wnd.com.


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/saudi-ara...1sQUCmBLfiD.99
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  • #2
    1. The Saudi regime live in fear of the Iranians. The Saudi wish is to stay in power and not be overthrown.


    2. The Iranians have backed Shia groups against them including an attack on Saudi by pro-Iranian Shias in Yemen, the Houthis.


    3. Saudi's no.1 goal is to destroy Iran.

    This is why Saudi Arabia is obsessed with Syria.

    Saudi Arabia wants to overthrow the pro-Iran government in Damascus to expel all Iranian influence in the middle east.

    4. For them this "war" against Syria/Iran is a war of life and death.

    They funded Saddam for years to attack the Iranians but failed.


    The Saudi regime should do the world a favour and do the following:

    - Stop threatening Russia and other countries with terrorism.

    - Stop supporting terrorists in Syria.

    - Stop supporting radicals and extremists in Bangladesh i.e. Jamaat i Islami.

    - Stop supporting war criminals in Bangladesh.

    - Stop harassing Bangladeshi workers whenever there is an Awami League government in power, despite the fact that Bangladesh is far more Islamic than Turkey (Quranic inheritance laws, family law, Islam state religion) etc.

    - Stop exporting Wahabism/"Salafiya" around the world.


    Russia and the Shias seem to be making it clear they will go to war if Syria is attacked and may launch war against Saudi Arabia itself.

    This war in Syria needs to end as the whole region and world is being destabilized. The Damascus government needs to be left intact or there will be catastrophe in the entire middle east.
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    • #3
      If you believe that Bandar controls Chechens and Al Qaeda, you are worse than Alex Jones.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ډګروال
        bengali pussy cat
        it seems you have chosen to attack the oppressed muslims while supporting the shia'tiens and russians.

        seems you are here to create propaganda against jamat Islami as well because they probably will overthrow the faulty government in bangladesh.
        wasnt it this dirty government who stoppend rohingyas from entering the country when they were being massacred?

        obviously in your evil eyes what is happening to rohingyas is justified as well.
        how dare you call Syrians terrorrist?

        you are nothing but a mouth piece who has no respect for muslim lives and choses russian **** against chechen muslims, the same russians who killed over a million Afghans.
        The problem Bengal Tiger and others have is that their blind hatred for some is leading them to love others merely for the fact that they oppose their enemy.

        This is typical of people who love and hate for other reasons.

        One can only be just when one hates for the sake of Allah and loves for the sake of Allah.

        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          The problem Bengal Tiger and others have is that their blind hatred for some is leading them to love others merely for the fact that they oppose their enemy.

          This is typical of people who love and hate for other reasons.

          One can only be just when one hates for the sake of Allah and loves for the sake of Allah.

          http://www.islamhouse.com/386693/en/...-Wala_wal-Bara

          You do not know what you are talking about.

          I have lived in Syria for one year and I also know a lot about the Wahabi ideology that you follow.

          I look at all this through a long-term geo-strategic angle, and there are many things about this conflict which you do not know about and I do.

          I am not even going to waste my time explaining anything to you or responding to your constant non-stop personal attacks. You consistently target me personally in any thread rather than discuss the topic.

          You are on this forum to belittle others, I am here to share knowledge and discuss.

          You will now be placed on my ignore list.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
            You do not know what you are talking about.

            I have lived in Syria for one year and I also know a lot about the Wahabi ideology that you follow.

            I look at all this through a long-term geo-strategic angle, and there are many things about this conflict which you do not know about and I do.

            I am not even going to waste my time explaining anything to you or responding to your constant non-stop personal attacks. You consistently target me personally in any thread rather than discuss the topic.

            You are on this forum to belittle others, I am here to share knowledge and discuss.

            You will now be placed on my ignore list.
            what are those things you know of?

            Syria conflict is a very confusing conflict where every side seems evil

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            • #7
              I'm hoping for all out war; It's time for the extinction of the human race.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by کیش View Post
                I'm hoping for all out war; It's time for the extinction of the human race.
                I expect the aliens to finish us off...
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #9
                  1. The US, Saudi Arabia and others worked together in the Afghan war not because the US loved Afghanistan, Afghans and Muslims but to weaken the USSR/Russia.

                  Saudi Arabia supported the "Mujahideen". These Afghan fighters were called "Mujahideen" when they served US interests, later some of them would be called militants, Taliban, Al-Qaeda.

                  2. The US and Saudi did the same thing in Chechnya to weaken Russia.

                  One of the key "Jihadi" leaders was al-Khattab, a wealthy Saudi.



                  The Chechens wanted independence from Russia. However their cause was hijacked by Wahabis and the Americans and if the majority of Chechens knew the destruction and bloodshed that war would have caused they might instead just have opted for autonomy within the Russian federation as the Dagestanis and Ingush (both Muslim) have.

                  3. The Russians eliminated al-Khattab, in a way known only to them, he was then replaced by another Saudi, Abu Walid.



                  Abu Walid had served in Afghanistan, where the Americans and Saudis had used Islamic volunteers to weaken the USSR.



                  Sending Islamic fighters, who would now be called "militants", was part of the 1980s "Green belt" strategy of the US. The Green belt strategy was to place a "Green" i.e. Islamic threat on the USSR's southern borders in Afghanistan, Pakistan (some say Iran too) and Turkey. Turkey experienced rapid state-sponsored Islamization in the 1980s under a US-instigated military coup with the proliferation of Imam-Hatip (Imamate) schools.

                  4. There are those who oppose the US in Afghanistan but support the US agenda and US proxies in Syria due to their hatred for Russia and Shias.

                  However this must be noted.

                  - The US has bought death and destruction to Iraq, which is now in effect a country with heavy nuclear radiation.

                  - The US has bought death and destruction to Afghanistan including reviving the drug trade, encouraging paedophilia.

                  - The US has bought death and destruction to Libya with US-aligned militants even killing many black Africans.



                  American-aligned militants in Libya killed many blacks in Libya.

                  In Libya, the peril of being black

                  Channel 4 news on black Libyans being killed.


                  Libya is not fully stabilized even now, nor is Iraq with continuing sectarian violence and nor is Afghanistan.

                  In all these countries the US has insured that sub-national ethnic power bases are made stronger leaving a fractured state i.e. divide and rule.

                  The Russians have not done anything like what the Americans are doing, and Russian brutality (which also exists) is confined to their own internal borders whereas the US goes all over the world to kill people.

                  Some America-supporters, Taliban-supporters here are angry at Putin and support their hero Obama.

                  However Obama is killing Pashtun children through drones, not Putin.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
                    You do not know what you are talking about.

                    I have lived in Syria for one year and I also know a lot about the Wahabi ideology that you follow.

                    I look at all this through a long-term geo-strategic angle, and there are many things about this conflict which you do not know about and I do.

                    I am not even going to waste my time explaining anything to you or responding to your constant non-stop personal attacks. You consistently target me personally in any thread rather than discuss the topic.

                    You are on this forum to belittle others, I am here to share knowledge and discuss.

                    You will now be placed on my ignore list.
                    As another member rightfully said, you are not a tiger but merely a pussy cat.

                    When you are called to account you run away with your tail between your legs.

                    Here you are bragging about how you are knowledgeable and well informed. Your knowledge is nothing more than a few stupid articles.
                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #11
                      One of the pro-American, pro-Al-Qaeda supporters here (on another thread) expressed support for the radical "Jamaat i Islami" group active in Bangladesh.

                      1. Ironically Jamaat e Islami are a group that fought and raped in 1971 to keep Bangladesh under Pakistani control.

                      2. They are more of a Pakistani-nationalist group than an Islamic group and would support Pakistan against Afghanistan rather than remain neutral. Indeed many call themselves Pakistanis now or "East Pakistanis".


                      3. They are a party of war criminals backed by the USA, Pakistan, Saudi and Turkey.

                      4. Would these same pro-Al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-Obama posters here support the Jamaat e Islami in Afghanistan, which like the Jamaat e Islami in Bangladesh is an Ikhwani group? (In Afghanistan, Jamaat e Islami is lead by Tajiks).



                      A razakar (originally meaning "volunteer", now signifiying a pro-Pakistan collaborator and war criminal) from the Jamaat e Islami.



                      A cartoon relating to how Jamaat i Islami ran brothels for Pakistani soldiers. Islamic law was misused and perverted by Pakistanis and their supporters to justify these rape camps. The Muslim women there were called ghanima, right-hand possess for the "ghazi" Pakistani soldiers. Pakistani brothels were mentioned in the post war investigation for Pakistan by the Hamidur Rehman commission.

                      Jamaat however are hated and opposed by most Islamic scholars and practising Muslims in Bangladesh.



                      Turkey's Abdullah Gul, a man hated by most educated Turks. A supporter of war criminals in Bangladesh who has harassed Bangladesh in support of Jamaati war criminals. Gul currently has legal immunity as president but is widely suspected of corruption.



                      Abdullah-Al Saud, the ruler of Saudi Arabia, whose regime supports the radical Jamaat e Islami in Bangladesh and who exerts soft pressure on Bangladesh whenever there is an Awami League government in power by blocking Bangladeshi workers going to Saudi Arabia to earn a livelihood and organizing police harassment of Bangladeshi workers. This is despite the fact that Bangladesh even under the Awami League is far more Islamic than Turkey, with Quranic-based inheritance laws, family laws, Islam as the state religion and complete freedom to wear Hijab. Bangladesh is a target of bullying by Abdullah and his Saudi regime.

                      A Bangladeshi expat taxi driver is being humiliated by a Sa - YouTube

                      Saudi humiliating Bangladeshi taxi driver. Saudis bully Bangladeshis as a people and Saudi as a government bullies Bangladesh as a state.


                      America and its proxies such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey have supported "Islamists" through out the world to cause death and destruction. However the international community e.g. Russia (biggest country on earth), China (biggest population on earth) and others are finally working together to stand up to US-Saudi sponsored terrorism.

                      For all the America and Obama supporters here such as Shamlawar Amerikani and graveyardofAmerica, you and your masters in Washington DC, Riyadh and Ankara will unfortunately (for you) be defeated.
                      Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 09-17-2013, 05:21 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani
                        Oh the Bengali pussy cat is loosing it. I love it when people become all emotional and out of control.

                        Basically you are a typical Bengali who is suffering from inferiority complex.
                        Typical responce from a Ghaarkoosi tajik, can't say anything usefull so starts calling him names.

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                        • #13
                          the green belt theory has been debunked decades ago

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                          • #14
                            Some interesting information. This is from Soldat_Amir's new facebook account:



                            Soldat Amir says: "My friend sent me this picture, its of a Muslim serving in the Russian Spetnaz, so before Neo cons from US talk **** about Muslims hating Russia, look deeper and you will see Muslim serving Putin in military...I like such traditional sufi Mystic Muslims of Russia...they fit in well amongst the Orthodoxy. and tend to be more peaceful than the Sunni Wahabi fanatics of the Middle East."

                            Later on his wall an Afghan brother makes this comment:

                            sufism z nt political n bangldish too..even every where itz non political ... plz dont mix sufism with stupid ideology of jamat islami ... sufizz r not xtremist .. they r human lover ... and jamat islam human killer
                            I don't even think Soldat said anything about Bangladesh but this Afghan brother, Lewanay ktk, mentioned Bangladesh.

                            Anyway we know that one person in this forum has a problem with the Afghan flag which he compared to toilet paper and I checked Lewanay ktk's profile and saw he had the following image, preceded by the words "da zama watan qaami tarana " :





                            This must hurt some people who hate the "flag of Amanullah Khan".

                            Then another poster on Soldat's wall pointed out that a Sufi group were the ones responsible for getting Jamaat e Islami banned in Bangladesh, which is true. It was an Islamic group (Sufis) who took Jamaat e "Islami" to court and got their electoral registration cancelled, i.e. they are not banned and still function but cannot contest elections.

                            Good to see awareness spreading of the true nature of Jamaatis and Wahabis by more and more people not that I agree with everything Soldat Amir says.
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                            • #15
                              actually the so called national anthem was written by the communist Sulayman Layeq.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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