Hezbollah chief Nasrallah says he would fight in Syria if needed

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

If a car bomb by Sunni extremists kill innocent shias we do not condemn it but if the Shia declares his sides with his political ally we get angry! What a hypocrisy and what a paradox!

Thats rich coming from a person who justified massacre of Pashtuns by Americans.

[Badlun]

Thats rich coming from a person who justified massacre of Pashtuns by Americans.

being a Pashtun myself I will never never justify massacre of Pashtuns by Americans but yes I will justify, support and struggle for the massacre of the enemy of Afghan state, Afghans and Pashtuns who are Taliban, suicide bombers, and violent extremists.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

being a Pashtun myself I will never never justify massacre of Pashtuns by Americans but yes I will justify, support and struggle for the massacre of the enemy of Afghan state, Afghans and Pashtuns who are Taliban, suicide bombers, and violent extremists.

Hmmm yet you became so emotional when a militant secularist like Najib, who knowingly killed unarmed men with his own two hands was strung up like a pinata.

Rather the real enemies of humanity, the secular militants and their leaders will be

1) Identified
2) Marginalized
3) ostracized
4) Neutralized

Point 4 is with respect to the leaders where capital punishment like Najib will be the best option and the rest can be imprisoned depending on role in the heirarchy.

So for instance, Muhammad Saleh Zeary would be extradited to Afghanistan and tried.

Atmar would, since he executed people probably be tried for capital punishment.

Most politburo members would likely be prosecuted for life imprisonment.

Current militant secular members of the government would be tried in a similar fashion.

the Afghan state when it is autonomous should emulate mossad and use extrajudicial means to forcibly repatriate current secular militants and neutralize them.

This will ultimately result in the extinction of this inoculant and this cult of caucasian worship.

[Badlun]

Hmmm yet you became so emotional when a militant secularist like Najib, who knowingly killed unarmed men with his own two hands was strung up like a pinata.

Rather the real enemies of humanity, the secular militants and their leaders will be

1) Identified
2) Marginalized
3) ostracized
4) Neutralized

Point 4 is with respect to the leaders where capital punishment like Najib will be the best option and the rest can be imprisoned depending on role in the heirarchy.

So for instance, Muhammad Saleh Zeary would be extradited to Afghanistan and tried.

Atmar would, since he executed people probably be tried for capital punishment.

Most politburo members would likely be prosecuted for life imprisonment.

Current militant secular members of the government would be tried in a similar fashion.

the Afghan state when it is autonomous should emulate mossad and use extrajudicial means to forcibly repatriate current secular militants and neutralize them.

This will ultimately result in the extinction of this inoculant and this cult of caucasian worship.

Doctor Sahb did you start smoking hasheesh or got intoxicated by some drug or imagination of having khamar and hurs in Janat so having such fantasies.
Who will do all this? Who are your alternative to Karzai? Will you be the next amir ul momineen to implement all such absurd fantasies you have. You yourself enjoying the life in the secular democratic society will never go to Aafghansitan to promulgate all this but will ask the innocent Pashtuns to destroy their opponents in the garb of taliban.

You love to live in secular democracy but will recommend the Taliban or Ikhwan obscurantist system for poor Pashtuns. What a shame and pity on you . I will salute you if I see you as a commander of Taliban in Kabul not a sham propagandist in the luxuries you are enjoying in the developed world.

By the way what evidence you have against Najib as a president of Afghanistan that he committed crimes against humanity? As a head of Khad he might have performed his duty but as a president can you prove against him a single extra judicial murder?

[Qambrani]

Doctor Sahb did you start smoking hasheesh

sorry to interrupt but i wish i had some hasheesh or garda, chars, etc

here in oman its difficult to come by and in pakistan i use to have it everyday, its one of the main things i miss about pakistan aside from relations and culture.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Doctor Sahb did you start smoking hasheesh or got intoxicated by some drug or imagination of having khamar and hurs in Janat so having such fantasies.

No, the era is coming soon. You see Badlun Saheb, its like distance is equal to rate multiplied by time. You can either increase the rate and decrease the time or vice versa and still get to the same point. Our beloved Afghan people are doing what they have always done best, what they have natural PhDs in, fighting wars of attrition. Give them stingers and they do it faster, but even if you take away the technological advantage, they will still in the words of Sultonzai of the Karzai governance, keep going and going like the energizer bunny.

Associated world events, the economy here etc are are keep us as cool as cucumbers, watching this all unfold.

Who will do all this? Who are your alternative to Karzai?

The Afghan people of course and in the Muslim countries their respective peoples too. There is a whole nation of alternatives to Karzai and they are working to ensure they have a shot.

Will you be the next amir ul momineen to implement all such absurd fantasies you have.

No, unlike you I have no messiah complex.

You yourself enjoying the life in the secular democratic society will never go to Aafghansitan to promulgate all this but will ask the innocent Pashtuns to destroy their opponents in the garb of taliban.

Observing is not encouraging, it is just that, observing. The only moral imperative in all of this is the occupied versus the occupier and perhaps the misuse of the lives of Americans as well by people like yourself and their elites for their own ends.

God bless the innocents of both America and Afghanistan and release them from the yolks of the ideologues like yourself and your ideological kith and kin, a dangerous and murderous group all too willing to impose a vocal minority view on the masses.

You love to live in secular democracy but will recommend the Taliban or Ikhwan obscurantist system for poor Pashtuns.

No, you got it wrong, I recommend nothing for no one but do encourage that they do whatever it is that they want to do autonomously

What a shame and pity on you . I will salute you if I see you as a commander of Taliban in Kabul not a sham propagandist in the luxuries you are enjoying in the developed world.

And I will solute you when I see you in FATA alongside your fellow Pakistani soldiers or in the frontlines of Helmand in place of an American so that you can face Omar's acolytes head on by yourself without aerial support. Then, let us see if you are more indigenous or they are.

The Taliban have no love lost for neither me nor my father, we can leave it at that. Nonetheless, what I can ensure you is that they are far less the foreign inoculant and mercenary than you, Asfandyaar, etc.

By the way what evidence you have against Najib as a president of Afghanistan that he committed crimes against humanity?

There is a whole thread of them that Scimitar has detailed here previously. He committed crimes against his own people and against Soviet youth who would never have been held hostage there had it not been his desire to stay in power as long as he possibly could with the idiotic belief that he could wait out a more determined and battle hardened foe. What a fool! Good riddance.

As a head of Khad he might have performed his duty but as a president can you prove against him a single extra judicial murder?

"performed his duty" you mean as is admitted by him to a UN delegate and as is written of him how he murdered and tortured hundreds? He even beat up Karzai's father. The main mistake they made with him was not leaving him and his brother hanging a little longer - the bones would have served as an example to militant secularists to be wary of Afghans.

[Badlun]

"performed his duty" you mean as is admitted by him to a UN delegate and as is written of him how he murdered and tortured hundreds? He even beat up Karzai's father. The main mistake they made with him was not leaving him and his brother hanging a little longer - the bones would have served as an example to militant secularists to be wary of Afghans.

No I seriously want to know about mass murders , crimes against humanity and extra judicial killings by Najib. Whenever you have time please share some concrete evidence. I was searching and I did not get anything substantial.

I have heard about him but do not remember well the time when he was ruling. This may change my mind. You should know that I am neither communist nor atheist. My sympathies with Najib are owing to his being Pashtun, anti taliban, a strong personality, all Afghans both Pashtun an d non Pashtun like him today in You tube an d other forums and whenever I read the way he was killed really make me cry.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

No I seriously want to know about mass murders , crimes against humanity and extra judicial killings by Najib. Whenever you have time please share some concrete evidence. I was searching and I did not get anything substantial.

I have heard about him but do not remember well the time when he was ruling. This may change my mind. You should know that I am neither communist nor atheist. My sympathies with Najib are owing to his being Pashtun, anti taliban, a strong personality, all Afghans both Pashtun an d non Pashtun like him today in You tube an d other forums and whenever I read the way he was killed really make me cry.

http://books.google.no/books?id=U05O...page&q&f=false

page 874

"najibullah proved to be utterly ruthless while running the secret police, reportedly ordering the arrest, torture, and execution of tens of thousands of Afghan citizens.
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By Christopher M. Andrew, Vasili Mitrokhin

http://books.google.com/books?id=4eS...tional&f=false

^ excellent detailed source of Najib's codename in KhAD

PAGE 409

"Najibullah sometimes executed prisoners himself. His preferred method, according to survivors of his prisons, was to beat his victims to the ground, and then kick them to death."

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That son of a b-itch, just even reading about him makes me sick. Like I said, the most honor laden men were the ones who ended his ugly existence and stuffed him full of money.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

No I seriously want to know about mass murders , crimes against humanity and extra judicial killings by Najib. Whenever you have time please share some concrete evidence. I was searching and I did not get anything substantial.

I have heard about him but do not remember well the time when he was ruling. This may change my mind. You should know that I am neither communist nor atheist. My sympathies with Najib are owing to his being Pashtun, anti taliban, a strong personality, all Afghans both Pashtun an d non Pashtun like him today in You tube an d other forums and whenever I read the way he was killed really make me cry.

Starting at page 6:
http://www.refworld.org/docid/47fdfaf10.html

You can read the Amnesty International Report on what KhaD did under Najib's tutelage.

The author Harry Bradsher provided the interviews of the first eye witness accounts of those on the receiving end of Najib's personal torture.

He wrote these in
Afghan Communism and Soviet Intervention
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And why you cried is the same reason militant secularists in Turkey cry for Ataturk - militant secularism is its own religion, and as Najib's example shows you have your own set of beliefs - the pillars of your religion are

1) Debase and try to insult Islam as often as possible
2) Play coy and remember you are a vocal minority so not all can be as brave as Soldat Amir and just be open - you have to practice intrigues by blending in - sort of like a version of taqiyah
3) Imitate and have an inferiority complex relative to Caucasians
4) Try your hardest to pertend to be on par with thinkers like Dawkins et al but just be second hand imitators
5) Replace the sahabaa and the Rasulullah with militant secularist leaders and local heroes (read murderers here) - that is why for instance MEK, the Iranian group is loyal to their mentally retarded leader and worships him like a God.

So pillar 5 is why you cried for Najib - he became your personal savior.

[Badlun]

I want to see evidence when Najib was ruler of Afghanistan not as head of Khad and preferably from some indigenous Afghan sources. And from some post Taliban time not the era when propaganda machine of US was busy against communists of that time.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I want to see evidence when Najib was ruler of Afghanistan not as head of Khad and preferably from some indigenous Afghan sources. And from some post Taliban time not the era when propaganda machine of US was busy against communists of that time.

Bradsher's interviews were with indigenous Afghans as were the other two authors.

Also, to simply overlook Najib's KhAD period is absurd. By that logic then, Taliban could argue: We learned our lessons, when we take power again we wont make the same mistakes etc etc.

Second, most of the secular militants hold Mullah Omar accountable, as does CENTCOM for all the actions of subordinates, left and right, up and down etc, with even less proof than what Amnesty International offers (which is well documented proof).

Third, neither of those sources are US governmental in any way shape or form.

Fourth, Najib's time in the Presidency was affected by his knowledge of impending defeat - though he was arrogant enough to try and stave it off. But as I said above, if one holds Mullah Omar responsible for each and every Taliban foot soldier then Najib too was responsible for the continued atrocities of his subordinates.

By your logic, no one can trust any US source then on the current Islamist movement since it at odds with it.

In any case, the provided sources rely on indigenous Afghan interviews - but you are demonstrating your devotion to secular militancy with the denials.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

If a car bomb by Sunni extremists kill innocent shias we do not condemn it but if the Shia declares his sides with his political ally we get angry! What a hypocrisy and what a paradox!

Not hypocrisy at all; just you have trouble reading correctly; I never said killing innocent people is acceptable. Hezbollah is sending military personell to Syria under Nasrallah's command, that's quite different than merely declaring sides.

What is hypocrisy is defending a murder of Pashtuns like Najib but then decrying others for killing Pashtuns.