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  • #46
    Originally posted by faye View Post
    to blame is your game.
    why bring that into the conversation. hard up again for a response?
    you seem to have difficulty answering questions about valid points. same as lynx. why is that?
    I dont blame anyone. I am only revealing the root of these problems. Unless people dont know the root of the problems, it becomes difficult to evolve.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by faye View Post
      so what is with all the calling for murder of cartoonists and book writers/burners for blasphemy, by muslims. in afghanistan and pakistan this burning of qua'ran has been a big deal, even when the qur'ans had been faultily printed or when the paper was to be recycled. someone uses allahs name in vain?
      this was the question. are you telling me that the root of the blasphemy laws in muslim societies today, is the abc books given to the children in afghanistan?
      the other thing you posted, was blaming past religions/societies or something. these don't answer the question.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        so where is the conscienceness today. Why is there so much injustice.
        doesn't your religion answer these questions for you?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by faye View Post
          doesn't your religion answer these questions for you?
          your avoiding the question which you accuse me of doing where in reality I answer your questions all the time but I know your trolling and preventing a real discussion about what the thread is about.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by faye View Post
            this was the question. are you telling me that the root of the blasphemy laws in muslim societies today, is the abc books given to the children in afghanistan?
            the other thing you posted, was blaming past religions/societies or something. these don't answer the question.
            Sure it does, the blasphemy law is a founders myth, it is not indegenous to the region, it was imported by colonialist powers.
            Any honest academic would tell you that the colonial era has had a dramatic and negative effect on the society in question here. Mans ignorance is the root, but that ignorance is encouraged by these forces like those "ABC books" and the laws and rulers that the colonialist powers left behind and then supported to this day. These societies should realize that their current ignorant mentalities are not indegenous mentalities but are foreign.

            Free societies work like free markets, if left alone, they correct themselves.
            It will take decades perhaps centuries for these societies to get out of its misery because they are not left alone.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              Sure it does, the blasphemy law is a founders myth, it is not indegenous to the region, it was imported by colonialist powers.
              Any honest academic would tell you that the colonial era has had a dramatic and negative effect on the society in question here. Mans ignorance is the root, but that ignorance is encouraged by these forces like those "ABC books" and the laws and rulers that the colonialist powers left behind and then supported to this day. These societies should realize that their current ignorant mentalities are not indegenous mentalities but are foreign.

              Free societies work like free markets, if left alone, they correct themselves.
              It will take decades perhaps centuries for these societies to get out of its misery because they are not left alone.


              You're basing this on what? some commentary by some guy you quoted from?
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                You're basing this on what? some commentary by some guy you quoted from?
                That guy is a harvard professor. has more merit than what you say.

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                • #53
                  Blasphamey law is part of the Islam, so condeming this is law is like condeming part of Islam and sharia, and aren't you peopel dieng to have that?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    Blasphamey law is part of the Islam, so condeming this is law is like condeming part of Islam and sharia, and aren't you peopel dieng to have that?
                    Show me a verse from the Quran of what you claim.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      Show me a verse from the Quran of what you claim.
                      are you a quran only muslim now? Aren't their hadiths supporting this type of Law? Like I said, there has to some thing this law is based upon, I doubt Americans are behind this. why is that every pakistani mullah supporting this law?
                      Last edited by Karachi; 09-03-2012, 01:41 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                        are you a quran only muslim now? Aren't their hadiths supporting this type of Law? Like I said, there has to some thing this law is based upon, I doubt Americans are behind this. why is that every pakistani mullah supports this law?
                        You made the claim, it is your job to prove it.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          You made the claim, it is your job to prove it.

                          It's part of sharia. it may not be part of quran or even hadiths, but the fact is muslims jurists of the past made this part of sharia law, so you can't really blame americans for it. It is the radical muslims who should be blamed, who have always twisted Islamic teachings for their own ways

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                            It's part of sharia. it may not be part of quran or even hadiths, but the fact is muslims jurists of the past made this part of sharia law, so you can't really blame americans for it. It is the radical muslims who should be blamed, who have always twisted Islamic teachings for their own ways
                            I say once again prove it. prove how the blasphemy law in pakistan derives from sharia.
                            you can do this if you think.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              That guy is a harvard professor. has more merit than what you say.


                              Description of Appeal to Authority

                              An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

                              Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
                              Person A makes claim C about subject S.
                              Therefore, C is true.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html

                                Description of Appeal to Authority

                                An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

                                Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
                                Person A makes claim C about subject S.
                                Therefore, C is true.
                                you are free to criticize his analysis and I welcome it
                                Last edited by khushal; 09-03-2012, 02:58 PM.

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