Taliban Attack Kabul Hotel, Take Hostages

[Admin Khan]

Attan in Qargha,
Qargha Atan - YouTube

So to claim ordinary Afghans weren't in the nearby proximity is wrong. Afghan expatriates, who return and don't have a place, would prefer to be in a hotel. Guess what? They have to suffer because some insurgents are looking for the regional scarce immoral prostitutes!

This is the ground reality, which one would expect on any given Friday in Kabul or Kandahar. Like I said, they are thirsty for the weekends.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

How did I divert the subject, when I offered a direct refutation?

No, you are not refuting. You are desperately trying to convince people that Qargha is not a sex resort.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

This is the ground reality,

Tell that to someone who never been there. LOL

[Admin Khan]

I dont know why you are trying so hard to disprove that that place is a sex resort.

This attan could be on the lower side of the hill, or on the western coast of the lake. It could be next to the old golf-resort or it could be on the southern side towards the old Paghman road.

But it is certainly not on the northern lake side.

I am from Kabul. I use to go to Qargha every other weekend when I was a child long before the place changed into what it is now.

And even back then, there were some really infamous restaurants there.

Shamlawar, are you intentionally trying to not read properly? I am not trying "to disprove it's a sex resort". All I am asking for is the evidence, and all I've said thus far is ordinary Afghans do indeed go to Qargha lake. On top of this, what I've said is they stormed the hotel, yelling "Where are the hoes" and the answer is right behind Badshahi Mosque. In conclusion, innocent Afghans died once again. Some were expatriates, who tried to give their country another shot. Boy did it not work out for them. As I said before, if prostitutes did exist in the region, why not attack it's hub?

[Admin Khan]

No, you are not refuting. You are desperately trying to convince people that Qargha is not a sex resort.

This is a lie. Never have I said this. Read brother, read! Widen your eyes, and read my posts starting from the first page out loud. You are making up nonsense now.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

right behind Badshahi Mosque.

Where is Badshahi mosque?

[Admin Khan]

According to the Taliban, there are no borders. So it's just a few miles away from them in their own Islamic territory. But no, rather than focusing on that, they would rather try their luck and randomly storm a hotel to see if they can find any. Perhaps walking all the way to Lahore might get them exhausted. Or maybe searching for prostitutes offers more excitement since it's more difficult to find them out of the blue? Point here is this, they stormed a hotel yelling "Where are the prostitutes" And how they are looking for immoral acts, but I can name them a place where this happens day and night, yet it's economy is growing. This doesn't mean I am justifying bad acts in Kabul, it means take advantage of probability, and apply some hypergeometric distribution and look at it's outcome. Flexing their muscles by killing innocent people eh, whoever they were!

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

According to the Taliban, there are no borders.

Dont lie. Taliban in Afghanistan have always claimed that they do not have any intention in meddling in neighboring countries politics or attacking their enemies beyond the borders of Afghanistan.

Yes, ideologically no Muslims recognizes borders. But almost every Islamic movement operates within a certain boundary.

You are just being lame like every other secular nationalist. I spoke to one of your leaders recently. He was trying to convince me to join his party. I told him I dont want to because I want Islamic government in Afghanistan. Now this guy is a senior figure. You know what his response was? He said: well, since Pakistan doesn't have an Islamic government, why should we? LOL

Always assuming that if there will be anything Islamic, it should be implemented first outside Afghanistan in order for secularists to accept it. Otherwise it is totally unacceptable.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

in lahore
-taliban are pakis
-they should attack their master

the same party line with some emotional outbursts.

These people are intellectually and ideologically bankrupt.

[Admin Khan]

Dont lie. Taliban in Afghanistan have always claimed that they do not have any intention in meddling in neighboring countries politics or attacking their enemies beyond the borders of Afghanistan.

Are you out your mind? The Taliban openly, and vehemently opposes the Durrand line. The aforementioned alone nullifies what you just said. The Taliban had a political flavor to them as well. Don't try to falsely associate garbage with the movement. Obviously they won't meddle for no reason, but Pakistan was a special case for the Taliban. Easily commuting, and not recognizing are just two reasons to back up the no border stance.

Yes, ideologically no Muslims recognizes borders. But almost every Islamic movement operates within a certain boundary.

This is what I mean when I say you don't read. There is a difference between listening and hearing, the same way there is a difference between analyzing, and skimming. I just said the above, yet you dismissed it. Now let's analyze what you just said. The Taliban, being Muslims, don't recognize a border and their boundary encompassed Pakistan, and there is a massive organized business of prostitution that occurs in broad daylight, yet it's thriving. And I rest my case, the rest that I was about to say is repetitive. It's like talking to a brick wall.

You are just being lame like every other secular nationalist.

Here comes the barrage of insults, I was patiently waiting for you to show your true colors. This is your problem, as soon as you get questioned, or are asked to think a bit harder, your interlocutor becomes a fool, followed by a secular, then a nationalists, then a Kafir!

I spoke to one of your leaders recently.

Who is my leader? What in the world are you talking about? I am not affiliated with any party, or group. I'm an independent thinker, who has no political affiliations what so ever. If you don't apologize for that lie, Allah will punish you. Lying is a sin young grasshopper. You just said you spoke to one of my leaders, but I have none as of June 22, 2012. Nonsense! I criticize both the Afghan government and Taliban for making the lives of innocent Afghans miserable.

[Shah-i-Kot]

in lahore
-taliban are pakis
-they should attack their master

the same party line with some emotional outbursts.

it is an ideological obsession that has now gone beyond absurdity,.


I mean Pakistan supports the NATO war, one of the ONLY countries to give NATO/Karzai lethal supplies.

While it has been disproved time and time again, it seems that we are supposed to believe that the Afghan insurgency fights for Pakistan.

This is what Amarulleh Saleh and Karzai say while NATO gets lethal supplies from Pakistan.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Are you out your mind? The Taliban openly, and vehemently opposes the Durrand line.

Lahore is beyond the natural border, the river, remember?

The aforementioned alone nullifies what you just said.

I didn't read the rest of your post.

You are just wasting my time with lame arguments.

[Admin Khan]

It's like talking to a brick wall. False-accusations, once debunked, another set of accusations arise. No discussion here, just me exposing lies. I hereby retire from this thread.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

It's like talking to a brick wall.

You are right. Stop being a brick wall.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Beyond disgusting. Many innocent civilians go there for picnics, it's sort of like what Arghandab is for Kandaharis. It's the one thing they all look forward too, in this war-torn nation. But no, let's blow it up under the pretext of Jihad while just across the line exists one of the biggest brothels in Asia, in the fort of Islam(Sarcasm for Pakistan), just behind the Badshahi Mosque. I guess these clowns have somehow justified those red-light, active, districts in Pakistan as "acceptable in their religion", yet a picnic hub with a resort is considered Holy Jihad.

Admin Khan,

There is an insurgency waged against the Pakistani state for its support for the NATO war. The objective of this insurgency is to bring Sharia to Pakistan.

Why would you expect an Afghan based insurgency to then focus on Pakistan before they achieve their goals in Afghanistan?