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    Afghan cadet trouble hounds Indian military academy

    Training the Afghan army has been described as a tough job, and India experienced it first hand last month. The Indian Army, which takes pride in its secular credentials, found itself facing a peculiar situation when Afghan cadets at the Officer’s Training Academy in Chennai complained about their “religious sentiments being hurt” by an officer-instructor there.

    There were tense moments after an Afghan cadet was asked to remove a piece of paper on which he had scribbled some religious verses and pasted it in his cabin. A top general was visiting the academy and the cabins were being inspected ahead of his visit. Army officials said cadets are discouraged from displaying religious symbols as it clashes with army’s secular outlook.

    The cadet was asked to remove the paper from the wall. He, however, confronted the authorities. The paper was torn when the authorities were removing it. This enraged the cadet, leading to a virtual breakdown in discipline at the academy, army sources said.

    Around 15 Afghan cadets locked horns with the major-rank instructor, blaming him for hurting their religious sentiments. More than 40 Afghans are currently training there. Some of the cadets refused to carry out the orders given to them, the sources said.

    The matter could well have turned out to be a diplomatic row, had the Afghan embassy here not been informed in time. The Afghan defence attache immediately flew to Chennai to defuse the crisis.

    “The defence attache apologised to the commandant on behalf of the cadets. There was a misunderstanding over some religious matter. The cadets expressed remorse over their behaviour,” a senior officer said.

    The incident comes at a time when Kabul is expecting India to expand its mentoring role ahead of the withdrawal of US-led forces from Afghanistan in 2014. Also, Afghan cadets are not well-versed in English and this may have led to some miscommunication.

    Apart from cadets undergoing training at the National Defence Academy in Khadakwasla and the Indian Military Academy in Dehradun, small batches of Afghan army officers are buffing up their English language skills at an army facility in Madhya Pradesh .

    Afghan cadet trouble hounds Indian military academy | idrw.org

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    1. Why haven't Afghans send their cadets to us in Bangladesh? We would treat them as honored guests and fellow brother Muslims. We trin officers from many nations including those from Bosnia and Palestine.

    2. Firstly, India has allowed Afghans in their Chennai academy which is second grade to IMA Dehradun. Indian Officer Corps is lousy, sloppy, professionally incompetent and a poor lot generally. We know them pretty well and saw them in actual war. When training with our officers in India or in our country the Indian officers lag far behind. And in their heart of hearts, they hate Muslims remembering the Afghan conquerors of the past.

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    • #3
      They have learned nothing...watch this how they are used as human shields by the americans.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by asad71 View Post
        2. Firstly, India has allowed Afghans in their Chennai academy which is second grade to IMA Dehradun. Indian Officer Corps is lousy, sloppy, professionally incompetent and a poor lot generally. We know them pretty well and saw them in actual war. When training with our officers in India or in our country the Indian officers lag far behind. .
        Yep ! 1 Bangladeshi officer = 10 Indian ones. We all know that hot Pakistani blood flows through the veins of Bangladeshi officers.

        How many years since the war ? 40 , eh . So the kids must be all grown up by now and are colonels and brigadiers.

        And in their heart of hearts, they hate Muslims remembering the Afghan conquerors of the past
        Fantastic logic !
        According to this wannabe Razakarite all Hindus hate all Muslims because of acts of an Afghan conquerer. Extrapolating this logic, we also hate all Christians because of the British . And all Buddists because Ashoka conquered whole of India. And each other, because one Indian State was at war with another one .
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        • #5
          This whole situation is kind of stupid you have to listen to your officer when they clearly say that religious symbols in a secular army are not allowed, I bet this soldier was some lazy uneducated famer who couldn't acomplish anything in his live, so he joind the army..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shadowgoverner
            stupid indians
            as if afghans are there to learn their seculer ways.
            the afghan defence attache apologised to the cow dung worshipping hindu even though he disrespected muslims and their religion?
            the thing that is stupid is that the indians are bothering to try to train people like you, who bite the hand of those that try to feed them.
            were they all relatives of yours, barking racist dog?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
              This whole situation is kind of stupid you have to listen to your officer when they clearly say that religious symbols in a secular army are not allowed, I bet this soldier was some lazy uneducated famer who couldn't acomplish anything in his live, so he joind the army..
              True face of secularism. No patience for religion

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              • #8
                ^^^true face of religion, closed mind.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by asad71 View Post
                  1. Why haven't Afghans send their cadets to us in Bangladesh? We would treat them as honored guests and fellow brother Muslims. We trin officers from many nations including those from Bosnia and Palestine.

                  2. Firstly, India has allowed Afghans in their Chennai academy which is second grade to IMA Dehradun. Indian Officer Corps is lousy, sloppy, professionally incompetent and a poor lot generally. We know them pretty well and saw them in actual war. When training with our officers in India or in our country the Indian officers lag far behind. And in their heart of hearts, they hate Muslims remembering the Afghan conquerors of the past.
                  I find no reason why not to train in Pakistan... except the government of Afghanistan hates Pakistanis... I doubt the lower ranks have the same attitudes as the bigwig Afghans who grow up insulting Pakistan.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by faye View Post
                    ^^^true face of religion, closed mind.
                    True face of Wahabism I say... which unfortunately we Afghans and Pakistanis have been taught. We are sadly intolerant.

                    Though I don't believe what the Indian major did was right. In a secular society people who want to follow religion should have the freedom to do so.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by haviZsultan View Post
                      True face of Wahabism I say... which unfortunately we Afghans and Pakistanis have been taught. We are sadly intolerant.

                      Though I don't believe what the Indian major did was right. In a secular society people who want to follow religion should have the freedom to do so.
                      You are intolerant as you said by yourself that is why Afghans don't want their forces to be intolerant.
                      lol

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                      • #12
                        time and place..get real you guys. time to grow up.
                        afghanistan is a country on life support. when i was there in the 70's people were telling me how different countries, built the road, the hospital etc. so it will have to do things for itself, at some point. to do that the afghan people will have to make an effort to be independent and support themselves.
                        other countries are offering assistance and situations like this occur where people are creating abstacles to their own advancement.
                        whining characters, WHO THEMSELVES ARE LIVING IN SECULAR SOCIETIES, that just go aound spewing their racism at those trying to assist afghans, is disgusting.
                        why don't all you wingers get off your internet addicted butts, and go and join or train the army of afghanistan?
                        remember the taliban will need a rest when this is all over, since you mob haven't been there helping, lol.

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                        • #13
                          Well when there the whole world's most advanced army men and trainers are there in Afghanistan then why they had to go to India for training. Beyond my understanding.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Friend View Post
                            You are intolerant as you said by yourself that is why Afghans don't want their forces to be intolerant.
                            lol
                            He is going to call you an Afghan(Pashtun) now.
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                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                              He is going to call you an Afghan(Pashtun) now.
                              he was about to say that but you stopped him.

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