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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bharati View Post
    Poor doctor, he was sentenced 33years in prison because he was convicted to " treason ".
    He is totally innocent, he just decided to contact CIA first, what was wrong ?
    I'm sorry to say that, but Luffy, HaviZsultan, Talal, Karachi, your pakistan is a dictatorship, and i'm not anti-pakistani like Admin-Khan.
    How can you defend this decision ???? !
    there was no OBL and there is no OBL. He got sentence because he helped the americans to make up this lie and that is what u get when u play games with the army. If there was OBL then where is his dead body. dumped in sea or river .. America is sick btrd and he just wants to create tensions between muslims . by the way america has been succesfull in creating hatred amongst muslims , it is clearly visible from the ways arabs hate non arabs and non arabs hate each other and arabs. And If u r an indian then that word completely states that u r antipakistani. look at ur own country, the case of ajmal qasab, who says that he was pakistani from lahore , he couldnt even speak proper urdu and he was speaking hindi, now how come a man born in pakistan lahore and is not able to speak urdu properly and i am sorry to say that was just a plan of indians who traeted that innocent child so badly.. well my pakistani frends know there is quite difference between urdu and hindi. on the other hand even if 200 died so what in that incident. alot more die in pakistan and afghanistan alone just becz of ur indian government.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by liars_all_around View Post
      there was no OBL and there is no OBL. He got sentence because he helped the americans to make up this lie and that is what u get when u play games with the army. If there was OBL then where is his dead body. dumped in sea or river .. America is sick btrd and he just wants to create tensions between muslims . by the way america has been succesfull in creating hatred amongst muslims , it is clearly visible from the ways arabs hate non arabs and non arabs hate each other and arabs. And If u r an indian then that word completely states that u r antipakistani. look at ur own country, the case of ajmal qasab, who says that he was pakistani from lahore , he couldnt even speak proper urdu and he was speaking hindi, now how come a man born in pakistan lahore and is not able to speak urdu properly and i am sorry to say that was just a plan of indians who traeted that innocent child so badly.. well my pakistani frends know there is quite difference between urdu and hindi. on the other hand even if 200 died so what in that incident. alot
      more die in pakistan and afghanistan alone just becz of ur indian government.
      What ? India is responsible of the war in afghanistan and pakistan ?
      .

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Bharati View Post
        What ? India is responsible of the war in afghanistan and pakistan ?
        Not india but indian government? Not in afghanistan but in pakistan yes there are alot of indian spies. Do u think when u blame isi for everything bad that happens in ur country, your raw is also not sleeping. they are equally involved in all these terror attacks along with some other countries..its not difficult to buy these terrorist..
        U guys have promoted hatred amongst muslims. give me a good reason why india is being inviolved in afghanistan and why is india helping afghanistan. do u think we are idiot to accept that u are just helping them bcz u care abt them. sorry to say but truth is that u just wana create ur hegemony in the region.

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        • #49
          WASHINGTON — A Senate panel expressed its outrage Thursday over Pakistan’s conviction of a doctor who helped the United States track down Osama bin Laden, cutting aid to Islamabad by $33 million — $1 million for every year of the physician’s 33-year sentence for high treason.

          The punitive move came on top of deep reductions the Appropriations Committee already had made to President Barack Obama’s budget request for Pakistan, a reflection of the growing congressional anger over its cooperation in combatting terrorism. The overall foreign aid budget for next year had...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            WASHINGTON — A Senate panel expressed its outrage Thursday over Pakistan’s conviction of a doctor who helped the United States track down Osama bin Laden, cutting aid to Islamabad by $33 million — $1 million for every year of the physician’s 33-year sentence for high treason.

            The punitive move came on top of deep reductions the Appropriations Committee already had made to President Barack Obama’s budget request for Pakistan, a reflection of the growing congressional anger over its cooperation in combatting terrorism. The overall foreign aid budget for next year had...

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...NnU_story.html
            Oh give me a break. Its a drop in the water compared to all the aid they have received and will receive.

            You are attempting to absolve them of their guilt of shouting Afridi's name into the universe and beyond and then playing this game of guilt tripping Pakistan for what was expected to happen.

            Afridi deserves an honest chance to tell his story which he will not now get. He may have thought he was helping his homeland in the capacity of a physician and was also likely doing some service for people who needed one done. He already had wealth and resources and his family lived well enough.

            Had they really cared about him and his safety they would have
            A) Told him what he was getting involved in
            B) What it might mean to his safety (and family safety)
            C) A way out to a safe place to avoid such an unjust outcome

            If the US castigates its own whistle blowers even during the liberal Obama Administration no one on Earth, especially a Pakistani citizen would have ignored the dire personal danger to crossing the Pak Military establishment.

            My hope is that the local government can step in and help aid the appeal to the higher level courts to actually do a trial in court so he has a chance to truly function under an innocent till proven guilty motif that he deserves.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #51
              Originally posted by liars_all_around View Post
              Not india but indian government? Not in afghanistan but in pakistan yes there are alot of indian spies. Do u think when u blame isi for everything bad that happens in ur country, your raw is also not sleeping. they are equally involved in all these terror attacks along with some other countries..its not difficult to buy these terrorist..
              U guys have promoted hatred amongst muslims. give me a good reason why india is being inviolved in afghanistan and why is india helping afghanistan. do u think we are idiot to accept that u are just helping them bcz u care abt them. sorry to say but truth is that u just wana create ur hegemony in the region.
              Because Afghans want them there

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              • #52
                According to some reports, the Peshawar High Court may take his appeal.

                In that event, he gets to explain exactly what happened. It is most likely the case he knew nothing of what he was involved in.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Friend View Post
                  By the way who allowed him to do that for the usa ? Had he any NOC from the govt of Pakistan for doing that service ?
                  He was doing exactly what Pakistan said they have been doing all along, why turn a blind eye to that? Pakistan claims Osama is an enemy, and that they are vigorously hunting him down. Musharraf went as far as saying he does not exist in Pakistan, blah blah. Dr.Afridi provided the lead; why does it matter who killed him? I thought you guys are allies with the Americans? Don't you allow the US to blow up Pakistanis on a daily basis(think how 10 died today)? Now that Dr.Afridi has given up your cash cow, which means you can't elongate the war for more aid you feel offended? This is hilarious, and I am shocked at the shortsightedness of some around here. I am not arguing if the US or Pakistan are right or wrong here. All I am saying is Pakistan claimed they are fighting terrorism with the US, and how they are partners, which resulted in the US designating the banana republic as a major non-NATO member. If someone kills a so called "enemy" of Pakistan, why jail him? Clearly the ISI knew he existed, which is why he lived in Abbotabad(again, there is now evidence for this, but this is the narrative those who are supporting him being jailed have chosen), a military city. For all we knew, Dr.Afridi probably did not have a clue what he was doing, or even if he did, based on the Pakistani narrative, he should be given a medal of honor. Think about it, and cut off the hypocrisy. It's either you fight terrorism, or harbor terrorism. The fact that he wasn't even permitted to defend himself tells us that Pakistan is once again living up to it's name.
                  Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                  A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                  For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                  The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                  -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                  • #54
                    hey!! what about osamas day in court?
                    was the only proof of his guilt, a video, that could have been fake?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by faye View Post
                      hey!! what about osamas day in court?
                      was the only proof of his guilt, a video, that could have been fake?
                      Well of course Faye, they didnt want him to be able to discuss his factual issues he had either with their endeavors in the Muslim world for the whole of America to see. That would have been a disaster and would have highlighted what interventionalism has done.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        hey!! what about osamas day in court?
                        was the only proof of his guilt, a video, that could have been fake?
                        But thats not how world powers operate.

                        Look at how Rome dealt with Hannibal and Vercingetorix
                        Or how the early Colonialists dealt with Metacom
                        Or how Assetts dealt with Geuvara.
                        Or how perhaps even Alexander dealt with Darius (even though they say Alexander wept for him and that it was not his order)

                        This is the cyclical nature of power... one day people will discuss this era in the same fashion and we will all be dust.

                        God gives power and he takes it away as he pleases.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by haviZsultan View Post
                          He was actively working for the CIA.
                          We've always wanted the CIA OUT of Pakistan because we don't know what they are doing. Raymond Davis killed 2 Pakistanis in broad daylight.
                          I stand by this decision. I am glad Laden is dead... but the honor and dignity if we had killed him would have been great.
                          how does killing a man, who has never even been proven to have committed the crimes he is accused of, equate to honour and dignity?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                            But thats not how world powers operate.

                            Look at how Rome dealt with Hannibal and Vercingetorix
                            Or how the early Colonialists dealt with Metacom
                            Or how Assetts dealt with Geuvara.
                            Or how perhaps even Alexander dealt with Darius (even though they say Alexander wept for him and that it was not his order)

                            This is the cyclical nature of power... one day people will discuss this era in the same fashion and we will all be dust.

                            God gives power and he takes it away as he pleases.
                            so you have no hope for humanity to evolve past rome etc.?
                            i am not intersted in how things were done in centuries past, i am interested in now and the future.
                            i know about the crimes of the past but to accept pathetic, immoral behaviour, because that is how it has 'always been done' is rather lame.
                            god this and god that. what about humanity taking some responsibility for itself? i believe there is a reason for things to be occurring but if you just lamely accept things as they are when there is the capacity for improvement, is slothful.
                            that is like seeing one of your patients with cancer and you say 'oh well, god has chosen for you to have cancer, which has been around for centuries. go home, lay down and wait to die'.
                            Last edited by faye; 05-25-2012, 03:55 AM.

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