Suicide attack targets foreign troops in Kabul

[BarakzaiAbdali]

this tormakhay pe dwaro jahanuno sharmenda has no shame or whatsoever.

President Toramana's future vision for Pashtuns hahahaha loool


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[Zmarak]

President Toramana's future vision for Pashtuns hahahaha loool


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Hilarious, actually made me laugh out loud and not much does these days.

[Toramana]

President Toramana's future vision for Pashtuns hahahaha loool


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Still Akhwanis and other fanatics try as hard as they can to make it to the land of opportunities---if left to desert/stone-age medievalism and associated ideologies, far from having this online forum a miracle of modern technology linking so many members spread accross the globe, they would be riding donkeys and jokeying camels---

what is their contribution to the world by the way---apart from harems and cancubanism---?

[Tjanaparh]

What is cancubanism?

[tor_khan]

I think Toromana meant concubines. That's not something restricted to Arabs and Muslims btw. The Chinese, the Hindus, African traditionalists etc. have all had concubines as part of their cultures however.

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[Tjanaparh]

Ok thank You dear Tor Khan, now I understood it. But I think it not part of noones culture, that happens when a culture gets sick and falls. We have this events too in somehow unfortunately.

[emkhan]

What is cancubanism?

You should ask this from tormana, soldat and some other secular so called pashtoons. They have done Phd in this and they want to implement it in Pukhtunkhwa.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Still Akhwanis and other fanatics try as hard as they can to make it to the land of opportunities---if left to desert/stone-age medievalism and associated ideologies, far from having this online forum a miracle of modern technology linking so many members spread accross the globe, they would be riding donkeys and jokeying camels---

what is their contribution to the world by the way---apart from harems and cancubanism---?

Hahaha, you are a comedian today Toramana. I see no issues with that. Maybe they want to learn to how clone their camels or equip their haarems with state of the art Labor and Delivery units when they go back.

Jews did the same. They capitalized on America's wealth and resources, but their brains to work and have managed to utilize American prowess for their means. They didn't need American military bases in Israel or Americans to "build their country for them" as you ANP Nazis crow on about. No, they built their own Technion University and have successfully managed to bamboozle the most powerful country in the world to bankroll them and side with them irrespective of the lack of national security benefit. For them, America was a means to an end and continues to be so. The Jews are rather smart and understood, unlike Saleh, Fahim, Karzai etc that no one can build your country for you... you have to build it yourself.

Regardless, you fool yourself, the polling data has always consistently shown that Muslims worldround, from whiskey drinkers to bearded turban wearers, applaud American technological prowess and efficiency in governmental services etc. It is American foreign policy that they are upset about.

"Some have speculated that roots of Muslim anger at America lie in a clash of civilizations between Muslim and the West, that Muslims are simply opposed to liberal values of democracy, pluralism and human rights. Muslims largely reject this view. Numerous polls that we have conducted as well, as well as others by the World Values Survey and Arab Barometer, show strong support throughout the Muslim world for democracy, for human rights, and for an international order based on international law and a strong United Nations.

These surveys do however suggest that there is a kind of internal clash of civilizations or at least some tension of civilizations. For example while large majorities support the principle that will of the people should be the basis of authority for government; majorities also support the notion that shari'a should be the basis for government and that a group of Islamic scholars should be able to vet laws."
http://www.publicpolicy.umd.edu/sppu...0and%20America

[Toramana]

What is cancubanism?

ArvaPashth ---Cancubanism was an old Arab tradition according to which the mothers, daughters, or sisters of fallen enemies in wars/battles were taken captives and either kept as personal slaves or sold in slavery in slave markets.

Slave women in this tradition were called cancubines---not wives but still available to their masters for sensual pleasure...Such women could also be used by their masters for prostitution (prostitutions as a business)....Cancubines could also be bought from market...but often they were caught in wars and jehads.

Often a whole family would be taken as slave ---the old and elderly etc. were sold in open market whereas the young girls/women and boys/men were retained by the holy warrior for his pleasures or household work...Often one member would be sold in one market and the other in another one...subjecting the whole family to the agony of lifelong separation---

Slavery persisted in Arab societies till 1960s---When in 1960s, it was abolished, most of Arabs and religious classes protested against the abolishment---Now a days Mullahs in Saudi Arabia are capaining for its restoration----

Talebs also want to establish such kind of society---

In medieval times, Samarkand and Bukhara were the biggest slave markets---It is said so many slaves were captured by Mahmoud of Ghazna in his Hindustani campaigns and transported to slave maekets in Bukhara and Samarkand that it caused these markets to crash and the slave-prices to fall---

There are many resources are available about it---the classical sources on Arab resurgence and campaigns are the best sources....

[Tjanaparh]

I wouldn't call it culture, but Tor Khan is right, it existed in different places.
And I know some similar tendences in modern society! They are not bound to slavery in physical sense, but the way is still the same!
It is actually a theme I argued heavily with some friends who see it as normal.

[Toramana]

"Some have speculated that roots of Muslim anger at America lie in a clash of civilizations between Muslim and the West, that Muslims are simply opposed to liberal values of democracy, pluralism and human rights. Muslims largely reject this view. Numerous polls that we have conducted as well, as well as others by the World Values Survey and Arab Barometer, show strong support throughout the Muslim world for democracy, for human rights, and for an international order based on international law and a strong United Nations.

http://www.publicpolicy.umd.edu/sppu...0and%20America

By the way, what is your own notion of democracy being a follower of Akhwani ideology and probably the most ardent backer of Taleban and other fanatics on this forum----?

No doubt, most of the Muslims admire and value democracy, religious tolerance, and liberal and secular values ---but not the fanatical religious ideological minority that want to establish a fascist theocratic state----

The memories of Taleban of whom you are the stauchest sympathizer and supporter here on this forum flogging women, burning girls schools, etc. are still alive in the minds of civilized folk the world over----So no use of this deception...

[Toramana]

ArevaPasht---

This is what is Barakzai's notion of Human rights ---watch the video below---Taleban flogging an innocent girl in public----this gentleman lives in USA but wants the rest of Pashtuns to live under such kind of humuliation----He is an enemy of ANP and PMAP and other Pashtun nationalists because they are opposed to such barbarism in their society---but he is an enemy of ANP and PMAP because he considers them responsible of Taleban's routing from Swat.

In order to watch the video you would have to specify your age.

[Toramana]

ArevaPasht, I am sorry, the video cannot be posted here I don't know for what reasons---But you can search for it in Youtube using the search string "Swat girl flogging"---It is the third video from top in the list of videos displayed...Specify your age to watch---

You would see with your own eyes which kind of human rights and justice system are these "guys" talking about.

[emkhan]

ArevaPasht, I am sorry, the video cannot be posted here I don't know for what reasons---But you can search for it in Youtube using the search string "Swat girl flogging"---It is the third video from top in the list of videos displayed...Specify your age to watch---

You would see with your own eyes which kind of human rights and justice system are these "guys" talking about.

You idiot, that video was made by an NGO who gave some two lack rupees to some guys to make this video. You have been exposed as a liar on this forum. You better take your lies some other place.

[Soldat_Amir]

Well, you will expect our Muslim brothers in the West,Zmarak,Al Hanif to praise a female suicide bomber, but the fact remains is, they would never permit their own sister or mother to do the same. When will the west realise, that these kind of people should be dealt with with the most inhumane way. Don't give them visa's or refugee status, let them hang about in Lahore guarding their masters gate.

As I said many times, its easy to praise a suicide bomber, but when you look into the facts and the way they are brainwashed, then you will realize reality, sad to see people praise the likes of Al Hanif and co, foreigners, non Pashtuns, praising the exploitation of women to blow themselves up.

Zmarak....Don't worry, soon Pakistan wont be able to shelter your buddies in the Taliban, they will meet their fate with a hell-fire missile and nobody will save them.

Terrible, I hope the innocent people killed are compensated by the government and revenge on the Taliban. Coward Taliban, using women to blow themselves up, People is this the kind of men you want to rule over Afghanistan? and its funny, how the likes of Zmarak and Al Hanif support such people while living in their cosy beds in the west, living on benefits and on the welfare, while innocent Afghans suffer, and now women are not spared too.

Deera Afsos khabara da!