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Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:
[61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.
[61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.
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I asked you where you live because of this!Originally posted by Mutakhasis View PostYep, they have a huge temple where I am, fully paid for by the British government
I have Ahmed Qadianis booksIslam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:
[61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.
[61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.
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How can you bribe someone to lead his whole life accordig to a system of life and that too an intellectual interpretation like qadyanism.Helping the poor by them is a very good act if you interpret them as bribe it is your lack of understanding.This technique was also used by the prophet of islam and there is a part in the Zakat [OBLIGATORY CHARITY] which has to be used for converting non muslims and help them financially even afterwards [it is called " Mualifatul quloob"].They don't do "force" conversions, they do bribe conversions by pretending to give charity to the poor and needy while spreading their ideology through that, in the exact manner as the Christian missionaries do.They will even pay you to be part of their congregations, and this is parts of their doctrine.
So what is wrong with this? Muslims are also supposed to obey "olul amr" [ruling authority] till they commit "Kufar bawah" [a clear violation of islamic obligations proved by injunctions].Every Qadiani (Ahmadi) must be willing to sacrifice his/her wealth and life for the Government (which at the time was the British Empire) in charge, regardless of the actions of the regime;
The pre requisites for demonstrations against a muslim ruler are so strict that we see only a couple of rebellion [khurooj] against muslim ruler by Husain ibne ali and nafse zakia and there are opinions about whether they did right or wrong.No Qadiani (Ahmadi) can participate in demonstrations and Jihad against an oppressive or unjust Government;
If it is a different religion then its teaachings are supposed to be different. Do you expect that they believe in Ghulam Ahmed and promote Quran and Sunnah?Qadianis (Ahmadis) are to follow every teaching of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani (their prophet), even when it is in clear contradiction to the teachings of Islam.
Do you expect them to expect Makkah and Medina to be their holy cities instead?Qadianis (Ahmadis) are expected to hold Qadian (India) and Rabwah (Pakistan) as their holy cities;
If their argument and false and baseless then you are supposed to prove it by argument not by passing jusdgments on them or killing them while they are praying. Witht he education and literacy ration and the community welfare concept , if they feel superior there is nothing wrog with that as long as they do not use this discrimination against merit.Qadianis (Ahmadis) are taught to feel superior to Muslims and are expected to try to convert Muslims into Qadianism, by referring to false and baseless missionary arguments;
This is a matter of common sense.Muslims are unbeleivers of their faith and they are unbeleivers of muslims' faith.Qadianis (Ahmadis) are to believe that Muslims are unbelieversLast edited by pir_Rokhan; 05-29-2010, 01:56 AM.
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we cant decide for ourselves who should be killed or who should be given life.... we are not Khuda (Nauzbillah)....
whatever it is, the best thing is to leave it to Allah... Allah is the one to judge people and does justice not you and me..
by carrying out such attacks we are making our world, our countries a worse place to live in.... we already have so much of brutality going on....
by doing all this we are just showing the world that we, muslims don't spare people even when they are praying.....for the whole world we all are just muslims, no Qadiyanis or anything else....Last edited by Guest; 05-29-2010, 04:28 AM.
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we condemn the killing of innocent people on the name of religion, ethnicity, language etc either in peshawar, kohat, swat, waziristan, bajaur or that is in lahore, isbd, sargodha, multan etc[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Barking Dogs Seldom Bite...![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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Ooh so it was their leader who died in a toilet because of diarrhea, lol I just can't believe people still follow this clown.Originally posted by Sangar View PostHaven't you read the history of Qadyani sect? He was British Empires servant. Then he converted to Islam. And suddenly claimed he was Mahdi, then he claimed he is Jesus, and later he claimed he was a new prophet. He was doing similar things |Taher ul Padri is doing now. He denounced jihad against the British and said that Muslims should not fight the British. And then he was challenged by the local leader of the Muslims in a Mubahila. And 2 years after the Mubahila, Ghulam Ahmad Qadyani died of a night long severe case of diarrhea. He died in a pool of his own poo. Read his biography written by his own brother, Seerat Mahdi.
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Notice how peaceful they are--no demonstration or retaliation. They just buried their dead in peace.
Truly a sad day.
If this was any other Muslim group it would have been different--there would have been bloodshed.Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:
[61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.
[61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.
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I only support my country and those who try to build it.Originally posted by Sangar View PostYou supporet the Kaafir army of Karzai and the Americans who do much more worse things to us in Afghanistan.
Who are you to call anyone else sick?
And I know the form of idealogi/government you want is probably better then Karzai and his "kaafirs" but its unrealistic.“Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.
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Originally posted by kunar1990 View PostI only support my country and those who try to build it.
And I know the form of idealogi/government you want is probably better then Karzai and his "kaafirs" but its unrealistic.
He calls people such as Karzai as Kaffirs, but avoid his Mullah Omar whos trainer was a Punjabi called Col Imam haha
Not just this, he avoids the fact that most of his present day Wahabist Jiahdis were at one point supported and financied by USA CIA and Saudi Intelligence, Kaffir has become a word of fashion for these people
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You know the qadianis have two sects within their religion. One is lahori sect and the other is the original qadiani. The lahori sect believe that mirza was the messiah that they were waiting for.
Anyways, i am still awaiting to see if pak taliban takes responsibility.
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It is probably the work of those regular cow-boys in Pakistan who usually massacre each other. In the 90's several massacres occured in the sectarian violence all across Pakistan.Originally posted by inqilab View PostYou know the qadianis have two sects within their religion. One is lahori sect and the other is the original qadiani. The lahori sect believe that mirza was the messiah that they were waiting for.
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No matter what our political relationship is with Pakistan, death of innocent people will remain painful. May Allah Tallah punish all murderers at last so they let the world live in peace once and for all!Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat
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