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**Zahed** · 05-29-2010, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Luffy View Post

i am also aware of this harsh reality. A friend of mine was contractor in wana, he told me the same stories about uzbeks killing and torturing locals and raping their women. Uzbeks used to abduct waziri women in fields in daylight with no challenge from locals. The ones married to uzbeks faced gang rapes. Those waziri talibans who complained about the brutality of them, were slaughtered. The suspectible locals got tortured in undergroud cells. The wazirs were so much victimized by uzbeks that they were crying for help of pakistani army.
Khuda de mong dase wakht na bach saati, ameen.

woww u guys shocked me!!! why would Uzbeks even do this to Pashtuns!? 'n how can just few hundred Uzbeks oppress thousands of Pashtuns!? :s

**MazloomyarMaseed** · 05-29-2010, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by Luffy View Post

i am also aware of this harsh reality. A friend of mine was contractor in wana, he told me the same stories about uzbeks killing and torturing locals and raping their women. Uzbeks used to abduct waziri women in fields in daylight with no challenge from locals. The ones married to uzbeks faced gang rapes. Those waziri talibans who complained about the brutality of them, were slaughtered. The suspectible locals got tortured in undergroud cells. The wazirs were so much victimized by uzbeks that they were crying for help of pakistani army.
Khuda de mong dase wakht na bach saati, ameen.

If so, then why did Pakistan Army allow them in the North till this present day, they were only evicted from the South???????

Take it with a pitch of salt, Wazirs lost alot of land to Uzbeks because Uzbeks bought so much and the locals became a minority, the Pak forces allowed these people to settle due to American invasion.Both Taliban and Pak army are to be blaimed not locals to be honest.

**Muslimah** · 05-29-2010, 09:24 PM

all of this makes me sad. I hate that there is so much hostility within a culture and within a religion.
One of my closest friends is pakistani shiia, another is arab christian whos brother went to fight in Afghanistan and got killed .. it made me so mad that her brother did this...but it made her mad too, and well - he never made it back. Cleary as a Sunni Muslim there should be some tension. But, I judge these people one at a time. Its like accusing all Germans/Austrians for what Hitler did. Its unfair.
In general, people need to learn that violence isnt the answer, and they need to mind their own business and live their lives the way THEY want to and not to force other people to live THEIR way...makes me so upset!

**pir_Rokhan** · 05-29-2010, 10:09 PM

Uzbaks,Tajiks,Arabs and Punjabi militants were brought by ISI back n the afghan war days to fght against the Russians and they settled there.The stories about rapes and all that crap are just stories.They married there and got settled there.They were all ideologiical people misled by Pakistan army to use them against Afghanistan in the name of Jihad. It is due to this reason that Pakistan army is not ready to do operation in North waziristan.ISI stiill consider them their strategic assets.

**pir_Rokhan** · 05-29-2010, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Sabrina

I feel bad for my Ahmadi Muslims, Innocent people died.

May Allah treat them well in heaven.

I have a lot of respect for Ahmadis.

Just to keep the record straight, the Ahmadis/Qadyanis have been declared non muslims by durng the first People party govt led by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:29 PM

Friday Sermon of the Ahmadiyya leader.

This is in Urdu---> VIDEO

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:35 PM

Give me a sec.

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:38 PM

There is another link but its not working. Downloading should also work.

I will put the link to the other video as soon as I can get it.

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:40 PM

This is the other link. VIDEO.

^If this does not work, try it later. I think it is really busy. Otherwise, you can download the sermon with the first link.

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:54 PM

I know, it's 113 MB. I would say it is worth it. It is nice to hear how peaceful they are swallowing their grief.

The other link should also work. But I think there are a lot of people viewing it.

**MeemWawMeemNoon** · 06-04-2010, 11:59 PM

I guess you have to wait until their server becomes less busy to try the other link.

It is so worth watching.

It makes you reflect on the whole condition of Muslims of today.