Imran Khan demands apology from Pakistan to Bangladesh

[roadrunner]

Give sources. every source i could find says the opposite of what you are saying.

It's all true. I refuse to provide sources for someone unable to do basic lookup.

If you have something specific you'd like a source for, then of course I shall help people less fortunate.

What source would you like?

[roadrunner]

[roadrunner]

“I am the lone survivor of a group of ten Pathans who were employed as Security Guards by the Delta Construction Company in the Mohakhali locality in Dacca; all the others were slaughtered by the Bengali rebels in the night of March 25, 1971”, said 40-year-old Bacha Khan.
“I heard the screams of an Urdu-speaking girl who was being ravished by her Bengali captors but I was so scared that I did not have the courage to emerge from hiding” said a 24-year-old Zahid Abdi, who was employed in a trading firm in Dacca. He escaped the slaughter of the non-Bengalis in the crowded New Market locality of Dacca on March 23, 1971 and was sheltered by a God-fearing Bengali in his shop. The killers raped their non-Bengali teenage victim at the back of the shop and later on slayed her.
http://www.daccatimes.com/?p=362

[Talal]

Well im not gonna get into the history here and I am not going to judge Imran Khan either, but what i am interested in is the how much support Pakistan has in BD..This was something unexpected, both from my interactions with people from Bangladesh in real life and some general public survey...No doubt that there are bangladeshis who Pakistan..But this video and no its not a general youtube propaganda video..It was a piece done by ESPN Cricinfo on "Dhaka's farewell to Worldcup" In the video they interviewed general public and i must say the reactions were something i didnt expect

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Cricket World Cup 2011 | Running between the Cricket | Video diary | ESPN Cricinfo

[fzpz]

no need for apology from only one side.

gadhawaal, Pakistan has every right to 'interfere' in Afghanistan as long as it keeps up its anti-Pak pretensions and its own interference in Pakistan. Afghanistan started it.

[roadrunner]

Well im not gonna get into the history here and I am not going to judge Imran Khan either, but what i am interested in is the how much support Pakistan has in BD..This was something unexpected, both from my interactions with people from Bangladesh in real life and some general public survey...No doubt that there are bangladeshis who Pakistan..But this video and no its not a general youtube propaganda video..It was a piece done by ESPN Cricinfo on "Dhaka's farewell to Worldcup" In the video they interviewed general public and i must say the reactions were something i didnt expect

Skip to 4:15

Cricket World Cup 2011 | Running between the Cricket | Video diary | ESPN Cricinfo

they were ordering people of the streets to support teams.

a lot of the support for the teams that had no support was fake.

[roadrunner]

no need for apology from only one side.

gadhawaal, Pakistan has every right to 'interfere' in Afghanistan as long as it keeps up its anti-Pak pretensions and its own interference in Pakistan. Afghanistan started it.

i don't agree at all. Afghanistan shouldn't interfere in Pakistan's affairs (KPW is Pakistan's affairs), and Pakistan shouldn't interfere in Afghanistan's affairs.

But Afghanistan can support a referendum in KPW. That would be alright

[khushal]

http://www.kean.edu/~bgsg/Conference09/Papers_and_Presentations/Anis%20Ahmed_Paper_OperationSearchlight.pdf
The genocide committed in Bangladesh in 1971 is widely considered to be one of the worst genocides in recent
history. But this genocide, despite the indiscriminate killings of a huge number of innocent men, women and
children was also very much target oriented. Hence the fact that this military operation was code-named Operation
Search Light is self explanatory in the definition and the scope of the operation itself. But this is in no way to imply
that because it was a targeted killing, it was any less than genocide rather on the contrary it was the worst kind of
genocide for two very specific reasons. Firstly the targets were mostly civilians and secondly although Bengali
paramilitary forces (East Pakistan Rifles) and police were attacked right on the night of March 25 1971 when the
operation started, the attack was an undeclared war on the basis of ethnic identity. Therefore although the objectives
and operation were well defined and the target of killings and tortures of all degree and dimensions were preplanned,
this in no way reduces the responsibility of causing genocide in Bangladesh from March 25,1971 till December 16,
1971.It must be remembered that the broader target was the entire Bengali population in the erstwhile East Pakistan.
According to Asia Times, ' at a meeting of the military top brass Yahya Khan declared," Kill three millions of them ,
the rest will eat of our hands". Accordingly on the night of 25 March , the Pakistani Army launched Operation
Searchlight to crush Bengali resistance in which Bengali members of military services were disarmed and killed,
students and the intelligentsia systematically liquidated and able bodied Bengali males just picked up and gunned
down. According to various sources three million people were killed by the Pakistani Armed Forces and their
accomplices in Bangladesh. It was one of the largest genocides in the modern known history.

[roadrunner]

http://www.kean.edu/~bgsg/Conference...earchlight.pdf
The genocide committed in Bangladesh in 1971 is widely considered to be one of the worst genocides in recent
history. But this genocide, despite the indiscriminate killings of a huge number of innocent men, women and
children was also very much target oriented. Hence the fact that this military operation was code-named Operation
Search Light is self explanatory in the definition and the scope of the operation itself. But this is in no way to imply
that because it was a targeted killing, it was any less than genocide rather on the contrary it was the worst kind of
genocide for two very specific reasons. Firstly the targets were mostly civilians and secondly although Bengali
paramilitary forces (East Pakistan Rifles) and police were attacked right on the night of March 25 1971 when the
operation started, the attack was an undeclared war on the basis of ethnic identity. Therefore although the objectives
and operation were well defined and the target of killings and tortures of all degree and dimensions were preplanned,
this in no way reduces the responsibility of causing genocide in Bangladesh from March 25,1971 till December 16,
1971.It must be remembered that the broader target was the entire Bengali population in the erstwhile East Pakistan.
According to Asia Times, ' at a meeting of the military top brass Yahya Khan declared," Kill three millions of them ,
the rest will eat of our hands". Accordingly on the night of 25 March , the Pakistani Army launched Operation
Searchlight to crush Bengali resistance in which Bengali members of military services were disarmed and killed,
students and the intelligentsia systematically liquidated and able bodied Bengali males just picked up and gunned
down. According to various sources three million people were killed by the Pakistani Armed Forces and their
accomplices in Bangladesh. It was one of the largest genocides in the modern known history.

how old are you, kid?

That reference made me laugh. It is from the newly formed "Bangladesh Study Group, comprised of almost exclusively American-Bangladeshis students with a Bangladeshi Nationalist agenda.

Here it is. "Bangladesh Study Group is an initiative taken by the American-Bangladeshi staff and students at Kean University to provide a platform to examine the claims of atrocities, measure and compare the massacre done by Pakistan Army to the Bengalis during the liberation war of Bangladesh in 1971 from strictly an academic point of view."

Their really academic viewpoint uses the same old, used, and discarded references eg. rummel and some feminist trying to sell her books.

UPDATE yourself. The war of lib has been examined much more critically by real professors at respectable institutions and most Bangladeshi scholars are already ridiculing the 3 million figure (it took them long enough to realize it was a lie).

The most recent literature on this subject would be Dead Reckoning which is a very objective book written by respected, neutral scholars.

[khushal]

Road,
I asked you to give us sources to back up what your saying and you talking out of your arse and said we must find the source ourself to back up what your saying. Well all I can find is the opposite of what your saying. Now debate like a man otherwise shut the hell up.

The source I linked in the early post are studies done at university in US.
here is another excerpt and the references
References:
1.Death by Government by R J Rummel
2. Against Our Will: Men,Women and Rape by Susan Brownmiller
3.The Rape of Bangla Desh by Anthony Mascarenhas.
4. Tormenting Seventy One by Shahriar Kabir

http://www.kean.edu/~bgsg/Conference09/Papers_and_Presentations/Anis%20Ahmed_Paper_OperationSearchlight.pdf

This gendercide had another consequence. While men were being kidnapped and killed, women were raped..
Bengali women were targeted for gender-selective atrocities and abuses, notably gang sexual assault and rape
Indeed despite , and perhaps because of, overwhelming targeting of males for mass murder, it is for the systematic
brutalization of women that the Rape of Bangladesh is best known western observers. Susan Brownmiller in her
book , Against Our Will: Men Women and Rape writes," 200,000, 300,000 or possibly 400,000 women were raped.
Eighty percent of the raped women were Moslems, reflecting the population of Bangladesh, but Hindu and Christian
women were not exempt ....... Hit and run rape of large numbers of Bengali women was brutally simple in terms of
logistics. I must add here that the raping of Hindu and Christian women had the clear sight of forced pregnancy
which was aimed at communal cleansing operation.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Since this is a very important topic I will give a detailed reply later on, to this traitor Punjabi Roadrunner later on.

For the time being I will just comment by saying:

1971: Bangladesh won, Bengalis SMASHED the Punjabi army.

Since 1971 Punjabis have been crying over babies about a war that they lost..not only did they lose...but they were humiliated...a massive humiliation, with the biggest mass surrender, 90,000 in history...lolzzz. This despite:

- Being supported by Kafir America.

- Being supported by Kafir communist China.

- Being supported by Iran.

- Being supported by many in the Arab world (though pro-socialist Arab states supported Bangladesh)

Of course Imran Khan, who went to Oxford, was the captain of Pakistan's national team of their national sport, has established cancer hospitals, was considered a glamorous and dazzling personality whom both western and Pakistani society respected, and is the head of a major Pakistani political party (recent articles show his party enjoys a lot of support in FATA) knows less about 1971 than Trollrunner, whose claim to fame he is a internet troll on Pakistani nationalist forums.

lol.

I will be back when I have more time but for now I will leave you with this video:

YouTube - Bangladesh Independence Day 2010[/URL]

By no means watch the whole video (even I haven't) but go to:

a: 2.34 mins and see British politician of Pakistani descent Salma Yaqoob in headscarf.

b: 3.10 to see one of Trollrunner's ethnic kinsmen.

c: 4.24 for Salma Yaqoob's speech "I do think it is a dark chapter in the history of Pakistan that this war took place and t is true that it only took place because the majority of people's will was ignored, because there was an instituionalized discrimination and attitude of superiority. "

(4.54 mins)


later she says "...the people of Afghanistan are facing a hostile invasion against their will, we stand with them and say our country (the UK) is wrong."




Yaqoob is leader of Britain's "Respect" party which includes former Labour MPs such as George Galloway.

[khushal]

Gendercide Watch: Genocide in Bangladesh, 1971
On February 22, 1971 the generals in West Pakistan took a decision to crush the Awami League and its supporters. It was recognized from the first that a campaign of genocide would be necessary to eradicate the threat: "Kill three million of them," said President Yahya Khan at the February conference, "and the rest will eat out of our hands." (Robert Payne, Massacre [1972], p. 50.) On March 25 the genocide was launched. The university in Dacca was attacked and students exterminated in their hundreds. Death squads roamed the streets of Dacca, killing some 7,000 people in a single night. It was only the beginning. "Within a week, half the population of Dacca had fled, and at least 30,000 people had been killed. Chittagong, too, had lost half its population. All over East Pakistan people were taking flight, and it was estimated that in April some thirty million people [!] were wandering helplessly across East Pakistan to escape the grasp of the military." (Payne, Massacre, p. 48.) Ten million refugees fled to India, overwhelming that country's resources and spurring the eventual Indian military intervention. (The population of Bangladesh/East Pakistan at the outbreak of the genocide was about 75 million.)

[Nokia_Apridy]

Lawaney Shi wa pa KHPAL qoom banday DUMRA energey war ka.....

Bangaldash awo imran khan mu sa lagey ?

[khushal]

Punjab and its culture of Rape.

Unheard: Atrocities On Sikh Women in Punjab | NeverForget84.com
“If any action occurs in this village, every single male is going to be taken out and shot. Then we’re going to take all the women to our camp and there we’re going to create a new breed for Punjab.”
Brig. RP Sinha addressing assembled Sikh villagers on March 8, 1991, International Women’s Day
And this was the way International Women’s Day was celebrated in Punjab

Heres a book that details Panjabs rape culture "The Culture struggle" by Michael Parenti
The culture struggle - Google Books
In Panjab provence, Pakistan, rapes are a common occurrence, but only a small percentage are ever reported or prosecuted. Half the time the woman who do report being raped find that their accusations are treated as an admission of guilt.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan girl recalls rape ordeal
They accused police of not taking action against all the accused because they have the support of local influential people.
Women are often used as a means of settling tribal vendettas and honour that is perceived to have been slighted in rural Pakistan.
In 2002, a village council in Punjab province ordered the rape of a woman by men from another clan because of her brother's alleged affair with a woman from their family.
The case ignited international interest after the woman, Mukhtar Mai, chose to fight her case publicly.
Her fight helped rights groups and legislators galvanise support for changes in the country's laws which were recently amended.

[khushal]

Lawaney Shi wa pa KHPAL qoom banday DUMRA energey war ka.....

Bangaldash awo imran khan mu sa lagey ?

war ka wum. de panjab zalum na khulq khabar shee. sama de