US to supply Pakistan with warplanes - To kill more Muslims

[abubaker]

To kill Pashtuns, does it harm you to write down Pashtuns, as writing Muslims is not logical as these weapons wont be used on Punjabi Muslims but on Pashtuns.

what, so now pashtuns aren't Muslims, seriously man we aren't the only ones under attack by pork eating filth, the entire Muslim ummah is, and we should all join forces rather then fighting alone

[abubaker]

Dude for the last times, these are to defend pakistan and that includes 28 million pashtuns that reside within Pakistan.

nuff said

by killing them, khabisan the amreekayanu bachi tsa chi amreeka waya hamaghasi gadigee

[Talal]

^ last time I checked it was the taliban blowing **** up and the Pakistani army fighting them.. If u lot feel so strongly about it why don't u fight the Taliban ? Huh what's stopping u Guys or do u like the dirty work they do ?

[imb706]

Isnt Pakistan an Islamic country though?

[imb706]

Well, I guess so, but they're still muslims, or they just fighting rival muslims, religions tend to want to kill their rivals within the religion.

[pekhawar]

^our Pakistani govt is not Muslim, they are just labeled Muslim..

[pekhawar]

we are known to be the Israel of South Asia.

[Dinosaur Khan]

It's amazing how all the members who speak bad of Pakistan govt are Pakistani Pashtuns lol I think it would be the opposite.

but now I know 13 Pakistani Pashtuns all 13 of them hate them.

it says a lot now. Even in a few threads Afghanistani Afghans said we are brothers, Pakistani Afghans said no werre not Pakistani.


very interesting fact.

Another important point is that all these 13 live in westren or other countries..............if they dont consider themselves pakistanis and have citizenship of other countries , they are simply not pakistanis.............there are also many punjabis in westren countries, have citizenship of that countries and dont call themselves pakistanis.....

visit Pakhtunkhwa and interview its pashtuns.............ask them whether you people are non-pakistanis?.......they may assume you an insane person on this question.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

hahaha why dont you pro pakistanis visit one day to the tribal areas and go sing pakistan zindabad in the IDP camps and you will never forget a good beating as that. Talal is the usual Pakistani youth from Punjab, who watched geo tv and ptv beleiving everything they say, but never actually visited the area to see the reality.

This is for you Talal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUMPmU1ePBY&feature=related

This is the reality there

Your Pro Pakistaniyat is so played out, Most Pashtuns have seen right through your nasty nation, like i said so many times mr Talal, if your pakistan is so good to pashtuns and so islamic then why not abolish the FCR and why force tribals to follow it when they clearly dont want it.

Basically, Pakistan is a big fraud and an obstacle towards Pashtun Unity, but as Pashtuns are dumb they always get deceived even when Pak fauge bombs their homes, Mr Talal why doesnt your army do operations in Punjab where 1000's of your government jihadis roam around so freely.

[Dinosaur Khan]

hahaha why dont you pro pakistanis visit one day to the tribal areas and go sing pakistan zindabad in the IDP camps and you will never forget a good beating as that. Talal is the usual Pakistani youth from Punjab, who watched geo tv and ptv beleiving everything they say, but never actually visited the area to see the reality.

This is for you Talal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUMPmU1ePBY&feature=related

This is the reality there

Your Pro Pakistaniyat is so played out, Most Pashtuns have seen right through your nasty nation, like i said so many times mr Talal, if your pakistan is so good to pashtuns and so islamic then why not abolish the FCR and why force tribals to follow it when they clearly dont want it.

Basically, Pakistan is a big fraud and an obstacle towards Pashtun Unity, but as Pashtuns are dumb they always get deceived even when Pak fauge bombs their homes, Mr Talal why doesnt your army do operations in Punjab where 1000's of your government jihadis roam around so freely.

I agree with you, i have found wazirs, mehsuds, bajauris very ant-pakistanis, which is natural.....

[imb706]

we are known to be the Israel of South Asia.

You mean technologically advanced and a high quality of life?

[imb706]

Oh well, okay I get ya then.

[Talal]

Well, I guess so, but they're still muslims, or they just fighting rival muslims, religions tend to want to kill their rivals within the religion.

no we're not fighting fellow muslims, we are fighting terrorists....no terrorist is a muslim, he is worse than ****..and people here talk about us being US's puppet where there own country is under seige..anyways, bro you seem like you have no idea of Pakistan's war on terror and i would request that just for ground knowledge you read these articles at wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror_in_Pakistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror#Pakistan_involvement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf#Support_for_the_War_on_Terror

We are no ones puppet, we didnt go after them cuz of States we went after them because these terrorists threatened our state and as a nation its our right and obligation to defend our people.

And i ask those of you who call Pakistan Army evil and say that we are killing innocents, what would you have us do ? these suicide bombings killed 40000 people in Pakistan ? ..this is our country and we will defend to the very end, no matter what anyone thinks or says.. And if you or anyone is in a position to stop us, then come out and stop quibling behind your computer screens

people here seem to think we are wrong for fighting the taliban who were doing suicide bombings almost everyday in Pakistan last year..Pakistan Army finally launched a massive military operation against these ****bags last year and let me just quote Admiral Mullen

WASHINGTON: Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen has said that Pakistan does not get enough credit for its role in the war against extremists although some of its achievements were ‘pretty extraordinary’.
‘Too many people eagerly and easily criticise Pakistan for what they haven’t done, and when I go to Swat and look at what they did there on the military side I think it’s pretty extraordinary,’ said the US military chief while talking to journalists on Sunday.
A report released on Monday by the American Forces Press Service, noted that last week Pakistani authorities arranged for Admiral Mullen to visit Swat and showed him the areas they had retaken from the Taliban.
‘Swat was in danger, and the Taliban began moving even closer to the Pakistani capital. Admiral Mullen’s visit there showed that the Pakistani military has done a good job of counter-insurgency. The army cleared the valley and is holding it,’ the report noted.
It quoted Admiral Mullen as saying that while Pakistan’s job in Swat was not complete yet, what Pakistanis had achieved so far was remarkable.
The report noted that more than most US officials, Admiral Mullen had a cordial and long-standing relationship with the Pakistani military.
The report pointed out that Admiral Mullen ‘advises patience and humility’ in dealing with Pakistan, a view not shared by some leading Republicans in Congress.
Separately, the Pentagon reported that Admiral Mullen signed guidelines for the US military for 2010, which goes to members of the Joint Staff and informs the joint force.
Al-Qaeda and similar terrorist groups remained the biggest threat to the United States, the admiral wrote in the guidance. ‘The threat is still real,’ he said. Defeating those groups will take more than military power, and the admiral called on the US military to work with other national agencies and international allies to take on the threat.
President Obama’s strategy has the goal of defeating Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan and to prevent the group from threatening America and its allies, he noted.
‘Our main effort now must be to push forces into the theatre as quickly as possible – including shifting the balance of enablers from Iraq,’ the admiral wrote. The enablers include such things as intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets, engineers, military police and civil affairs personnel.
All aspects of the joint force needed to act more quickly, he said, urging the Defence Department and the combatant commands to send their very best people to fight the wars.

[Talal]

You mean technologically advanced and a high quality of life?

quality of life no

but as much as i hate to admit, militarily we follow the same doctrines and we are the only two countries who have theses kind of doctrines..we are both plagued by more enemies then we'd like, although in Israel's case its justified..there are lots of other parallels..the way these two were created

If you have time read this article by P. R. Kumaraswamy, he is a research fellow at the Harry S. Truman Institute of The Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

http://www.meforum.org/348/the-strangely-parallel-careers-of-israel

He quotes Zia-ul-Haq,

"Pakistan is like Israel, an ideological state. Take out the Judaism from Israel and it will fall like a house of cards. Take Islam out of Pakistan and make it a secular state; it would collapse."

But currently Pakistan and Israel are enemies.

[imb706]

no we're not fighting fellow muslims, we are fighting terrorists....no terrorist is a muslim

Well, they certainly think they are muslim. You can´t decide they aren´t muslim because you personally don´t like them. All religions fight their rivals, it used to always be bloody. Now, in the modern world anyway, they just scream at each other in annoying shouting matches.

quality of life no

Oh okay I get what you mean now. I´m no fan of Israeli policy towards arabs myself, but when someone says ¨israel of ___¨ I assumed they meant their economic status. Iraq used to be called the Japan of the Middle East, which reflected it´s economic status. Well, you get when I mean.

nd people here talk about us being US's puppet where there own country is under seige..anyways, bro you seem like you have no idea of Pakistan's war on terror

The war on terror seems like a crappy excuse to fight for oil and dominance if you ask me. It can´t be doing too well in Pakistan, as an entire part of that country is no man´s land. Kind of like the no man´s lands of the US during the 1870s.