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[Catya Sher]

Dreamer,
You're the psychologist right?
You don't believe in demons, therefore.
Mental illness I always maintain despite ridicule is caused at the very root
by demonic possession.
If you can't believe in God then you can't believe in the Devil and his legions, which are the demons
So there's no point to discuss with YOU.

The flippant language does not become you. "What are you on" - that's VERY INSULTING>

I believe in speaking unpopular truth.
If you don't agree, don't mock.
I don't do that to you or anyone else.

[Catya Sher]

On a positive note,
watch this 4 minute video:

YouTube - AMAZING SPEECH BY WAR VETERAN

The overall heading for the category was :

US SOLDIERS ARE WAKING UP

So not all are automatons for the side of Evil.
Some have consciences.
Listen to this Iraqi war veteran's assessment.
Not all American military personnel are fooled ; some see right through
the agenda.

[kakargirl]

catya sher we've had uk soldiers come back too who have spoke out we had 5 of the girls fathers speak out at our uni these were soldiers who came back from afghanistan some of things they said made me freeze i know a few of the soldiers who have been sent to prison because they wont go back to torture the people any further its easy to watch from far but its harder when your loved ones are there and you get daily reports of whos daughter has been raped now who dead whos been dragged through the street it drove me crazy for a long time went into a shut down every time the phone rings i jump whats the news now who's dead whats happened now .

[kakargirl]

if you mention the russians in front of my older sisters husband he goes into a rage a fit to this day after he saw what the russians did and the family back home well they just cry with whats happening now they cant even speak with each word they choke in tears , and manzareh wrora 25, 000 are not dead its 4.9 million of afghans are dead since the us invasion but as afghans we know its more than that even .

[IamDZJ]

if we weren't too busy fighting each there no third person who have had to come in between us to bring us peace. i blame nobody else but afghans themselves for whatever happens to the people of afghanistan.

[IamDZJ]

DZJ how do you blame Afghans for something George Bush did? Where in the world did Afghans have a say in this war? No Afghan asked Americans to one invade.

bush didn't send troops to invade afghanistan. he sent his troops to assist karzai to enforce his regime in afghanistan. if afghanistan was not such a royal mess, karzai wouldn't have needed the "help".
it's very easy to sit there and blame others. sure bush hasn't been upfront with the secret agenda of his forces in afghanistan but i am sure they were not sent there to rape women. check out the history of nato ever since the day it was formed. forget fighting a war, they have raped women in countries where they were supposed to provide medical attention. and bush had nothing to do with that.

[IamDZJ]

You need more help than I thought

You think Bush is innocent. He is the biggest kufar filth whi will rot in hell on earth and in the afterlife.

when did i say bush is innocent?? stop pulling things out of your treasure box.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Dear members here,

why have you all ignored the following

http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2009...-zarina-marri/

Zarina Marri, a baloch women, was used and raped by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan armed forces. The same army that supports Religonist Terrorist groups in Afghanistan, India and all over the Region.

Well for one such information is not highly publicized; but since it's made abreast to me now it's abomination and utter contradiction to Islamic principles and more weight to the illegitimacy of the Pakistani Military and Government Hierarchy.

But why have you ignored the rapes of these Iraqi girls and the sexual abuse by Soviets?

[Catya Sher]

Powerful posts by Kakargirl !
Unknown, too.

^ I bet this Baluch story is made up. I smell fraud here.

If such types as MI-6 are back to haunt us, I think I may take a break from PF...
this stuff is too much, especially insensitive after all that people have said on this thread.

These guys : Mi-6, Toramana
COMMANDEER threads as though they were their own.
Why don't they keep their mouths shut especially on such tragic subjects as this?

[Toramana]

Powerful posts by Kakargirl !
Unknown, too.

^ I bet this Baluch story is made up. I smell fraud here.

If such types as MI-6 are back to haunt us, I think I may take a break from PF...
this stuff is too much, especially insensitive after all that people have said on this thread.

These guys : Mi-6, Toramana
COMMANDEER threads as though they were their own.
Why don't they keep their mouths shut especially on such tragic subjects as this?

Hay Cateya, what...why are you ostracising us?

[Catya Sher]

^ Because you can't even say -
NOT ONCE !
in any of these threads and especially
in this most HEART-RENDING one of all,

"Gee those Americans and Nato are really WRONG to commit these atrocities".
Likewise Soviet ones.
For sure those are still being uncovered.
Such as this horrendous revelation by Scimitar.

You don't even listen for a second and take it in.
LET ALONE say a prayer for the poor victims, as did SAS very nicely.

OR wish for a fair and just decision by God to get Afghanistan free again, relieved of such awful leeches as NATO is.

[Manzareh]

Sloganeers, propagandists and politicians often use the word "genocide" in ways that the law does not permit. But rarely is the crime of genocide invoked when Western militaries murder Muslim groups. This essay argues that the internationally recognized crime of genocide applies to the intentional killings that NATO troops commit on a weekly basis in the poor villages and mute mountains of Afghanistan to destroy the Taliban, a puritanical Islamic group. NATO combat troops bombard and kill people in Taliban enclaves and meeting places. They also murder defenseless Afghan civilians. The dehumanized label of "Taliban" is used to cloak the nameless victims of NATO operations. Some political opposition to this practice is building in NATO countries, such as Canada, where calls are heard to withdraw troops from Afghanistan or divert them to non-combat tasks.

Dehumanization

In almost all NATO nations, the Taliban have been completely dehumanized - a historically-tested signal that perpetrators of the crime of genocide carry unmitigated intentions to eradicate the dehumanized group. Politicians, the armed forces, the media, and even the general public associate in the West the Taliban with irrational fanatics, intolerant fundamentalists, brutal assassins, beheaders of women, bearded extremists, and terrorists. This luminescent negativity paves the way for aggression, military operations, and genocide. Promoting the predatory doctrine of collective self-defense, killing the Taliban is celebrated as a legal virtue. To leave the Taliban in control of Afghanistan, says NATO, is to leave a haven for terrorism.
A similar dehumanization took place in the 16th and 17th centuries when NATO precursors occupied the Americas to purloin land and resources. The killings of native inhabitants were extensive and heartless. Thomas Jefferson, the noble author of the Declaration of Independence, labeled Indians as "merciless savages." President Andrew Jackson pontificated: "What good man would prefer a country covered with forests and ranged by a few thousand savages to our extensive Republic, studded with cities, towns, and prosperous farms." Promoting the predatory doctrine of discovery, the United States Supreme Court later ratified the pilgrims' crimes, holding that "discovery gave an exclusive right to extinguish the Indian title (to land). ([T]he Indians were fierce savages...To leave them in possession of their country was to leave the country a wilderness."

The predators have not changed their stripes a bit. They come, they demonize, they obliterate. They do all this in the name of superior civilization.


The Facts
The NATO website lists its killings in Afghanistan. These killings are also reported in the world media, often with a shameless tone of gratitude as if NATO forces are engaged in wiping out cannibals. In 2007 alone, NATO helicopters and precision guided munitions bombed and killed over six thousand "Taliban." Read the following recent attacks, which the NATO itself reports, and smell the scent of genocide:

On January 19, 2008, NATO launched a preemptive strike relying on "credible intelligence" that the Taliban were planning to mass on a NATO base. The attack killed two dozen "insurgents" in the Watapoor District of Kunar Province, though the exact number of casualties could not be confirmed because of the rough mountainous region. The world media reported that numerous civilians were killed and 25 bodies were buried in just one mass grave.
On January 12, 2008, NATO forces conducted what it calls a "precise strike" on a compound in Kapsia Province targeting Taliban leaders. NATO claimed that the civilians were cleared from the compound before the attack. The claim is absurd because any removal of civilians from the compound would have alerted the battle-hardened Taliban that an enemy attack was imminent.
On September 20, 2007, NATO forces launched "Operation Palk Wahel" to kill and remove the Taliban from an area in the Upper Gereshk Valley. Numerous civilians were killed. The evidence of the genocide was so obvious that NATO admitted that it "was unaware of civilians in the vicinity of the target and unfortunately it appears that a number of non-combatants were caught in the attack and killed."


The Law
The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (entered into force, 1951) is binding on all states including the 26 member states of NATO. The Genocide Convention is jus cogens, the law from which no derogation is allowed. It provides no exceptions for any nation or any organization of nations, such as the United Nations or NATO, to commit genocide. Nor does the Convention allow any exceptions to genocide "whether committed in time of peace or in time of war." Even traditional self-defense - let alone preemptive self-defense, a deceptive name for aggression cannot be invoked to justify or excuse the crime of genocide.
In murdering the Taliban, NATO armed forces systematically practice on a continual basis the crime of genocide that consists of three constituent elements - act, intent to destroy, and religious group. The crime, as defined in the Convention, is analyzed below:
1. Act. The Convention lists five acts, each of which qualifies as genocide. NATO forces in Afghanistan are committing three of the five acts. They are killing members of the Taliban. They are causing serious bodily harm to members of the Taliban. They are deliberately inflicting on the Taliban conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction in whole or in part. Any of these three acts committed one time constitutes the crime of genocide. NATO combat troops have been committing, and continue to commit, these acts through multiple means and weapons.
2. Intent to Destroy. The crime of genocide is a crime of intent. It must be shown that NATO combat troops and the high command ordering these troops carry the requisite intent to destroy the Taliban. Mere negligent killings do not qualify as genocide. The statements of NATO's Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and those of NATO spokesmen leave no doubt that the NATO conducts military operations to "hunt and destroy" the Taliban. Preemptive strikes to kill the Taliban are sufficient proof that NATO troops and commanding generals have specific intent to destroy as many Taliban members as they can find. The weekly murderous planning and intelligence gathering to locate and eliminate the Taliban leaders and members further demonstrate that the killings in Afghanistan are not negligent, accidental, or by mistake. For all legal purposes, NATO's incessant and deliberate killings of the Taliban are powered with the specific intent to destroy a religious group.
3. Religious Group. The Genocide Convention is far from universal in that it does not protect all groups from genocide. Its protection covers only four groups: national, ethnic, racial and religious. (Political groups are not protected). The Convention does not require the complete eradication of a protected group as a necessary condition for the crime of genocide. Even part destruction of a protected group constitutes the crime. It is no secret that the Taliban are a religious group. (They may also qualify as a national (Afghan) or ethnic (Pushtun) group). The Taliban advocate and practice a puritanical version of Islam. The Convention does not demand that the protected group advocate and practice a form of religion acceptable to the West or the world. The questionable beliefs and practices of a religious group are no reasons to destroy the group. That the Taliban are armed or support terrorism or oppress women are unlawful excuses to commit genocide. (All reasons that Hitler had to murder Jews would be simply irrelevant under the Convention).


The Holding

It may, therefore, be safely concluded that NATO combat troops and NATO commanders are engaged in murdering the Taliban, a protected group under the Genocide Convention, with the specific intent to physically and mentally destroythe group in whole or in part. This is the crime of genocide.

[Toramana]

^ Because you can't even say -
NOT ONCE !
in any of these threads and especially
in this most HEART-RENDING one of all,

"Gee those Americans and Nato are really WRONG to commit these atrocities".
Likewise Soviet ones.
For sure those are still being uncovered.
Such as this horrendous revelation by Scimitar.

You don't even listen for a second and take it in.
LET ALONE say a prayer for the poor victims, as did SAS very nicely.

OR wish for a fair and just decision by God to get Afghanistan free again, relieved of such awful leeches as NATO is.

I really feel US-NATO are as much part of the problem as AL-Qaueda and Taleban and ISI/Pakistan are ... And this is what the common man perspective is ...But, having said that, one should be responsible enough to propose a way out...a permanent and sustaible solution...and Taleban-Al-Qaueda cannot be that solution...

Furthoermore, it is ironical that one cannot condemn the blowing up of mosques and schools and innocent people but is quick to point fingure at the other side....

[Catya Sher]

^ SAS got you there, Toramana!
I have to read the piece on genocide now.

[Toramana]

yeah i mean look at the israeli army blowing up mosques, schools and killing children

it really is shocking isnt it toramana

let us condemn both...

one thing more, Isrealis may be the enemies to blow up Palestanian schools ...why should Muslim Taleban be blowing up mosques, schools, and fellow Muslims in a Muslim land...Is not that more condemnable? Is not it unjustified depriving innocent Pashtuns/Muslims of the opportunity to education or even depriving innocent kids, daughters, wives, sisters, of their male family members and sometimes the only earning hand ?