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    Steven Dale launches appeal against five life sentences because he was tried in civilian court
    He says warzone sent him crazy and deaths of two colleagues had 'messed me up real bad'

    Steven Green, pictured in April 2009, is serving five life sentences for rape and murder in Iraq. He has launched appeal but doesn't have 'much hope' of ever being freed
    An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence.
    Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down.
    He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army.
    'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.'
    Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences.
    The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war.
    But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone.
    'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.'
    Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him.
    Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister.
    Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison.
    Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21.
    Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld.
    'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.'
    Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies.

    Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, Green's 14-year-old victim, whose parents and sister were also murdered in the attack. Green said deaths of two of his colleagues had 'messed him up real bad'
    A 19-year-old high school dropout from Midland, Texas, Green joined the Army after obtaining his high school equivalency diploma from a correspondence school.
    He said signing up was easy, born of a sense of duty to defend his country and the opportunities that offered.
    'I thought I'd be neglecting my duty if I didn't,' Green said. 'You've got a career, you've got a job. It gives you opportunities to do things with your life.'
    The military placed Green with the Fort Campbell-based 101st Airborne. Upon arriving in Iraq, Green said, his training to kill, the rampant violence and derogatory comments by other soldiers against Iraqis served to dehumanise that country's civilian population.
    A turning point came on December 10, 2005, Green said, when a previously friendly Iraqi approached a traffic checkpoint and opened fire.
    The shots killed Staff Sgt. Travis L. Nelson, 41, instantly. Sgt. Kenith Casica, 32, was hit in the throat. Casica died as soldiers raced him aboard a Humvee to a field hospital.
    Green said those deaths 'messed me up real bad.'
    The deaths intensified Green's feelings toward all Iraqis, whom soldiers often called by a derogatory term. 'There's not a word that would describe how much I hated these people,' Green said. 'I wasn't thinking these people were humans.'

    Neighbour Hussein Mohammed points to the charred and blood-splattered crime scene where the killings took place in Mahmoudiya, Iraq
    Over the next four months, Green sought help from a military stress counsellor, obtaining small doses of a mood-regulating drug - and a directive to get some sleep before returning to his checkpoint south of Baghdad.
    In the interview, Green described alcohol and drugs being prevalent at the checkpoint. Green said soldiers there frequently felt abandoned by the Army and were given little support after the deaths of Casica and Nelson.
    Spc. James P. Barker of Fresno, California, testified that he pitched the idea of going to the al-Janabi family's home to Sgt. Paul E. Cortez of Barstow, California, who was in charge of the traffic checkpoint.

    Scene of the attack in Al Mahmoudiya on the outsikirts of Baghdad
    Green, who talked frequently of wanting to kill Iraqis, was brought along.
    Cortez testified that Barker and Green had the idea of having sex with the girl and that he didn't know the family would be killed.
    Green, then a private,saidhe had 'an altered state of mind' at the time. 'I wasn't thinking about more than 10 minutes into the future at any given time,' Green said. 'I didn't care.'
    At the Iraqi home, Barker and Cortez pulled Abeer into one room, while Green held the mother, father and youngest daughter in another.
    Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, stood guard in the hall. As Barker and Cortez raped the teen, Green shot the three family members, killing them.
    He then went into the next room and raped Abeer, before shooting her in the head. The soldiers lit her remains on fire before leaving. Another soldier stood watch a few miles away at the checkpoint.
    Since his sentencing on September 4, 2009, Green has been attacked at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, and was then transferred to Arizona.
    In prison, Green converted to Catholicism and has corresponded with a nun in Louisville about his faith.
    Green described prison life as a 'lonely existence' and said other inmates consider those convicted of sex offenses among the lowest, making life 'hazardous' among the general prison population.
    For Green, each day is just a matter of getting through 24 hours so he can do it all again the next day. Meanwhile, he lives with memories of the attack that took away the Iraqi family.
    'If I thought that was an OK thing now, I wouldn't be much of a human being,' Green said.


    Read more: 'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family | Mail Online

    'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family | Mail Online

  • #2
    unfortunatly people like this are the heros of many people in this forum. you know who you are you sick evil people. to support people that do these acts in any country be it Iraq or Afghanistan make you as sick as the people that do it. rot in hell.
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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    • #3
      Some westren Pseudo-pashtuns support american occupation of afghanistan, they should read this story. I request Khyal, toramana, bls, nadir shah etc to become more pashtun and less farangi.

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      • #4
        this story came out in june gave me sleepless nights and i cursed, theres a whole sight on this where i left a comment too it was called what punishment should green get , now the really disturbing thing is this is just one incident or as some people call it just the tip of the iceberg so many have happened, they've happened in afghanistan too where they've separated the men from the women and shot the men and raped the afghan pushtun women we know 3 families from kandahar whos daughter have taken theirown lives cos of this hamid karzai asked for these men U S hasn't handed them over this is what is reality of usa they rape my father panicked when U S said we are sending another 30 000 soldiers a few months ago all the families panicked more soldiers to rape more women this is whats happening , but there raping thier own female soldiers read the facts my father and other afghan pushtuns have discussed this where's geneva conventions when this is happening.
        Last edited by Guest; 12-23-2010, 11:25 AM.

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        • #5
          kakaray thats sad to read
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
            kakaray thats sad to read
            manzareh wrora it makes it 10xs worst when you know the familie's and when you failed to protect them it hurts even more its amazing when i came on here no one mentioned the real issues , people are a afraid to sleep at night in kandahar area and other areas incase some soldiers decide they want some fun in the middle of the night imagine fearing for your daughters and these soldiers who are doing this are carrying AKA dropped weapons its amazing what the US is getting away alot the afghan pushtun have just gone numb and wait for their fate now its disgusting and my anxiety is rising .

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            • #7
              we have family in afghanistan too, the sad thing is people here dont even realize the threat ov USA, thers cowards that **** there pants from USA so they dont have the guts to say something against them, instead all they keep saying is pakistan pakistan pakistan, only a coward will ignore someone that has murdered 25,000 innocent afghans. babies have been blown to peices, children have been orphaned and still they defend america in this forum. disgusting
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              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

              Originally posted by Karachi
              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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              • #8
                Dear members here,

                why have you all ignored the following

                http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2009...-zarina-marri/

                Zarina Marri, a baloch women, was used and raped by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan armed forces. The same army that supports Religonist Terrorist groups in Afghanistan, India and all over the Region.

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                • #9
                  This is typical of these kafar troops, these Troops are rapist and horrible and they don't care about these people or country, all they care about killing people and raping and if a pashtuns supports these troops then they are dalagan and bepashto people.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                    Some westren Pseudo-pashtuns support american occupation of afghanistan, they should read this story. I request Khyal, toramana, bls, nadir shah etc to become more pashtun and less farangi.
                    When the Soviets came to Afghanistan they used to humiliate Afghan women who came from religious/non-secular families by having them stripped naked and and the urinating on them. While the men were forced to watch. All the while these people who claimed to be for Pashtoon Nationalism, amongst Khalq and Parcham sat back, did nothing, and endorsed the Soviet presence there.

                    Now I'm not an apologist for corrupt exploitation of Islam by the hands of crooked politicians as Jamat-i-Islam; but these Anti Islam crowd are not products of Pashtoons or Pashtoon culture but Various Imperialist occupiers sent as moles to sow sedition amongst Pashtoons. IN reality they're of the same ilk as people such as Jamat-i-Islami

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                      When the Soviets came to Afghanistan they used to humiliate Afghan women who came from religious/non-secular families by having them stripped naked and and the urinating on them. While the men were forced to watch. All the while these people who claimed to be for Pashtoon Nationalism, amongst Khalq and Parcham sat back, did nothing, and endorsed the Soviet presence there.

                      Now I'm not an apologist for corrupt exploitation of Islam by the hands of crooked politicians as Jamat-i-Islam; but these Anti Islam crowd are not products of Pashtoons or Pashtoon culture but Various Imperialist occupiers sent as moles to sow sedition amongst Pashtoons. IN reality they're of the same ilk as people such as Jamat-i-Islami
                      Who would believe these scuttle-butts, superstitions, wildly-held rumours/beliefs...Can you cite me any credible source e.g., a report by a human-right organization, a survey, a report, etc. that corraborate that you claim....

                      And then taking the cover of these hearsay and an ambiguous stance where we don't know what you stand for, you try to ridicule nationalists...

                      I told you before ...Pashtun Nationalism is for very pragmatic, achievable goals....It is not tied with any ideology be utopian Islmist nationalism or a utopian communism...

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                      • #12
                        I say them Because they're true and I have met people who have witnessed this first hand. Once I met an Anti Taliban Mashar who was from my grandfather's province of Ghazni. He fought also against the Soviets in the Afghan War, he told me the men in his village were rounded up, taken to the center, tied up; then the women were rounded up, stripped and bound and then made to sit backs against each other, while the Soviet soldiers proceeded to do their disgusting act. This was done as an intimidation tactic to ensure that the males won't join or give refuge to the Mujahideen. he said this was his motive for joining the Mujahideen, because if you know anything about Afghanistan (which I know you don't); Ghazni used to be primarily a Pro-Government area during that time, but the Russians didn't know this and saw anyone with long beards and wearing gharrah partoug as a potential Mujahid.


                        The reason you feel defensive is because you have a guilty conscience; notice how you come to the defense of the Soviets, rather than distancing yourself from their action like I have with false groups like the Taliban and Jamat-i-Islami.

                        I agree the ilk of False proclaimers of Pashtoon Nationalists/Anti Islam are very pragmatic, they will use anything for the advantage of their agenda.

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                        • #13
                          The fact is:
                          BOTH the Soviet Army AND the American troops suffer from one thing:
                          DEMONIC POSSESSION!


                          It's not one "friend" urging someone to do an evil thing that is responsible.
                          No one would agree if the demons weren't already embedded in their minds due to violent movie watching and the cult of EVIL which reigns in contemporary America.

                          Same with the Soviet Union: it could never have come into existence had the Devil not arranged it to subjugate millions upon millions of Russians and other groups.

                          Notice how expansionist both of these countries are: never solving any problem in their own countries. Instead diverting the attention onto MYTHICAL problems in some remote area that no one knows anything about: Chechnya, Afghanistan for the Soviets; Afghanistan and Iraq for America.

                          If the US invaded Mexico and did the same atrocities there, obviously a huge outcry would result.

                          It's simply Shaitan which is behind all these evil deeds.

                          If one doesn't pray, Shaitan will be there to take them over pronto.

                          That's why we all have to protect ourselves from evil associates, sometimes even family members in the Western world, and so-called "friends".

                          Because demons jump from one person to another. That is their predatory nature.

                          You guy complain about Iran but how many countries has THAT country invaded in the last couple hundred years?
                          They are NOT predators.
                          Afghanistan too.

                          What I'm saying is: EVIL always has to grab other people and try to co-opt them. Whether individuals or entire nations to be subjugated.

                          The Soviet soldiers' actions shudder, shudder, were so vile.
                          Yet I have to say I think the Americans are even worse in the way they treat Afghan women.

                          Perhaps in 20 years, America has descended to worse depths than even, perish the thought, the Soviet Union was at when it was in Afghanistan.

                          Just a theory I'm considering.

                          This is the reason I dislike any evil forms around me, such as witches, skeletons, Halloween type ghouls, all these are reminders of those evil spirits which are invisible but do lurk in the ethers trying to lure souls into their traps.

                          Best to keep as much purity and light around one to avoid any of the incursions from Evil.

                          This soldier and others too were simply obeying the suggestions, like robots, of demons.

                          We all have to keep our ears open so we don't get tricked into making bad decisions even on innocuous subjects.

                          There are too many "little voices" that seek to whisper in one's ears.

                          One needs to be vigilant all the time to cast those out.

                          Had these US soldiers done the same, they would not be facing horrible sentences today. They cannot blame anything on the war or the poor environment. It's their own fault for obeying Shaitan's suggestion, which can come through other humans all the time.
                          End of sermon!

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                          • #14
                            ^ demons?^ what are u on?
                            Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                            • #15
                              Cateya, wars are really bad where bad things may happen.

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_ibn_al-Walid

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_ibn_Nuwayrah

                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layla_bint_al-Minhal

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