Ask an American, agnostic and atheist man pretty much anything

[کیش]

No, you keep asking me to provide proof there is no god, and my answer is *I DO NOT BELIEVE SUCH PROOF IS POSSIBLE, NOR EXISTS*.

Huge difference there.



You are the only one imagining it, because everyone else seems able to understand you keep asking me a stupid question, that I cannot possibly answer.



When you understand the relationship (which I have spelled out for you) you will understand why your question is so stupid.

You are asking me to provide proof of something *I DO NOT BELIEVE*.




I cannot answer that question *BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE TO PROVE YOUR GOD DOES NOT EXIST*

I have been saying this over and over. From here on out, I refuse to address this question from you. If you are so ignorant that we can go page after page of you demanding an answer and then ignoring it when I give it, I see no point in wasting the keystrokes to repeat myself.

Radical dude. Going against your parents believes are so contemporary.

if you don't believe it's possible to prove an existence of an all mighty lord than your purposely acting like a blind, deaf, and dumb guy.

Dew you.

[ozymandias]

i quoted what ypu said, 'supernatural exists'. i thought 'exist' means that it IS in existence.

That excuse falls apart when you look at the fact that I corrected your mistake, and you kept making it.

lol. now you have become hysterical.

i have NEVER said you MUST believe anything. please don't keep resorting to lies. it is immature.

I think you are projecting now.

you are the one who keeps inferring or claiming, certain things are not possible because YOU and the scientists have no proof of their existence.

so, it is ok, for you to call others out, on what you consider fallacies and intellectually belittle them, but it is not ok, for others to do the same to you?
is that one of your rules?
bit one sided isn't it?

Feel free to point out when I make a fallacy -- but it is *not* a fallacy on my part for you to take what I say out of context and keep pretending I said the exact opposite of what I actually said, despite my correcting you.

[ozymandias]

I believe in God .

I don't. Nice to meet you.

[SiiNii]

...
Ask me anything. It does not have to do with my nationality or lack of religion. I promise to answer to the best of my ability.

Pakhair Raghli and As-Salāmu `Alaykum,
Ozy

Dear Infidel,

How are you simultaneously agnostic and atheist, don't you have to pick one or the other?

*nevermind I found the answer in post 951

[faye]

I think you are projecting now.

and you are sidestepping.
so where did i say YOU MUST BELIEVE anything in particular?
i don't give a peanut about what you believe or not believe.
you are the one who came here to show off the debating skills and intellectual trickery, you learned at college. i'm just playing the game, with you.
fun innit?

[ozymandias]

Dear Infidel,

How are you simultaneously agnostic and atheist, don't you have to pick one or the other?

*nevermind I found the answer in post 951

Thanks for that edit!

[faye]

siinii, ozy is playing it safe, as a wannabe dawkins homeboy, lol.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105834/Career-atheist-Richard-Dawkins-admits-fact-agnostic.html

[Admin Khan]

What area you studying Ozymandias?

[ozymandias]

why do white people love alcohol so much when they can have something that won't harm them as much?

Not all do.

[ozymandias]

this behaviour really sickens me

god knows whether you really have faith in your heart or not

I understand what you are saying, even if I disagree with it.

saying "id rather play it safe by choosing agnosticism over athiesm" wont really make a difference when you are burning in the hellfire.

I'm not sure you understand the definitions of these words. I am not selecting 'agnosticism' or 'atheism' -- not only am I not choosing anything, I am both an agnostic, and an atheist. I did not choose these labels, these are the labels that best fit my nature.

I require evidence to believe something. Since I see no evidence for a god, I lack believe in one, and thus am atheist.

I understand the scientific nature, and the limits of science. Since any claims about a god are by their very nature unfalsifiable, they cannot be disproven, thus I am an agnostic.

Threatening an atheist with hellfire is like threatening to punch me in my aura -- not very effective and only causes me to laugh at you...

[ozymandias]

siinii, ozy is playing it safe, as a wannabe dawkins homeboy, lol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-agnostic.html

Might want to check your dates. I've been posting *HERE* as an agnostic for longer than that article has been around, and have been self-labeling myself agnostic for a lot longer than that.

[ozymandias]

What area you studying Ozymandias?

Currently working towards a Phd in Computer science (very part time), and have a BS in Computer Science, BS in Economics, and a minor in General Studies.

[ozymandias]

most of those that do regard it as some sort of elixir

I'm not sure what you are basing this off of -- I have never met anyone that I would describe as having this attitude.

i hate the stuff, it is seriously worse than heroin.

I'm not sure I agree -- I have never seen any sort of study that agrees with that. Heroin is strong, addictive stuff, with major long lasting side effects. In every measurable way, heroin seems to come up worse.

[ozymandias]

its not a threat but a flashforward

Same difference, either way.

[ozymandias]

homer simpson - "alcohol, the cause of and solution to, all of life's problems"

He is a cartoon character, and was making a funny statement, for the amusement of the viewer, not a real person, nor a person making a realistic statement.

i dont know about americans, but in the british culture, going to church has widely been replaced by going to a pub, to drink. pseudo-christianity has ruined your people.

I see nothing wrong with that. I am guessing that the number of problem drinkers is fairly equivalent to the number of people with a problem interest in religion. All they are really doing, is replacing one addiction with another.

heroin is worse because i did not lose my family members to it, they turned to the readily available alcohol instead

I'm also never lost a family member to cocaine. Does that mean that alcohol is worse than cocaine? Your logic also holds true for diesel. I've never had a family member die from drinking diesel...

Then again, I don't know anyone that died from drinking alcohol -- sure I know it happens, but it's not a personal thing.

If anything, alcohol is only a problem because social drinking is acceptable, allowing people to indulge easily. Were heroin easily obtainable, and without a social stigma, I'm sure there would be no argument... As it is, you are comparing two very different things.