Ask an American, agnostic and atheist man pretty much anything

[کیش]

where do you get that he likes or dislikes God from

is jumping to conclusions also apart of your ahem ahem lateral thinking?

Blindly not believing is a dislike. Stop responding to questions not for you please.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Blindly not believing is a dislike. Stop responding to questions not for you please.

that makes absolutely no sense; so FOR EXAMPLE if you don't believe in Christianity it means you dislike it?

so you you're saying you disbelieve things based on your personal tastes NOT whether they're true? What kind of nincompoop reasoning is that?

No I will respond just as you respond to my posts when they weren't directed at you; you don't get off that easily.

[کیش]

Okay

[Afghanistan2010]

That's what he said - he is blindly following his writings and ignoring all the differing opinions from experts...

So pendejo you are expert in science,especially for biology ?
Why don't you refute this amateurish book.

[ozymandias]

in your emotionally immature desperation, to continue trying to make us think you are correct and all others are dodos, YOU are grasping at straws, sweetie.
so, please, show me where i claimed that waves are intelligent.

I've decided not to play this game at this time. You asked me to prove that they are not, and then proceeded to say that since they are part of the 'creator' they are intelligent.

I'm not wasting time looking up the specific posts, because we all know you said that.

you and the mr stupidityindex are continuing to make false claims against others when you are inept in your own claims.

we are not in a school environment here. this is a forum.

So? No reason to reject logic, honesty, and civility.

[ozymandias]

since you have shown no proof as to why you are here

I'm not sure why this even matters -- it's off topic. Short of screenshots of the PMs inviting me, what would you want, anyway?

i can assume that it is a lie or a figment of your imagination, that someone invited you. isn't that how it works from your end?

Feel free to believe that. It's not an extraordinary claim, so no need for extraordinary evidence. If I felt it was worth the effort, I could provide evidence, but I fail to see the relevance.

we are well acquainted with the arrogance of the emotinally immature, because we have had mr stupidityindex, blathering his ego all over the forum for years. so you are showing us nothing new.

*sigh*

where is your proof that i don't understand what science is?

Your own words and posts. Either you don't understand it, or pretend to not understand it. Either way...

you try to tell us that sand is made from the motion of waves

And your own article validated that claim. Your problem is the assumption that everything has a *single*, *simple* explanation. Waves *are* one of the sources of sand. Period.

and then try to say that I don't understand what science is, lol.
is that your logic?

Pretty much. You claim that since 'wind' does not completely explain the existence of all sand, 'wind' is not an explanation for sand. Clearly you don't understand science, if you think that makes sense.

[ozymandias]

well, if the person saying it is apple, sees reality from the perspective of 'appledom', then to himself he is correct, to you he may be wrong.

Not just me -- to reality.

so, you are not necessarily correct from anothers perspective, even though you may dispute that person, as you believe in your own particular view and they theirs.

Yeah, I think you are done here.

so you are believing the pi is 1, without proof then? i thought you needed proof for everything.

*sigh*

Seriously? I do have some evidence -- the first result from google. That's enough evidence for me to realistically believe that the millionth digit is '1'. It's not exactly a far fetched, extraordinary claim. That said, if I were to see evidence that it is *not* '1'. I would be willing to look at the evidence and accept another digit.

I've *repeatedly* stated that science, (and I) are both willing to reject our current beliefs in the face of new, superior evidence. I don't know why you continue to post here, if you are unwilling to read the replies to your comments.

[ozymandias]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......big words from a little man.

A little civility, please.

[ozymandias]

Not cool, brother. You have no personal response.

Here is your response, once again:

I am agnostic. Your question makes no sense. I will not give you any further answer to this question than that. Since I do not personally believe that the non-existence of god, or gods is possible, it is stupid to ask me to do so.

Can I make that any more clear?

You don't have to like God to know he runs the the show.

You don't have to hate a god to see there is no evidence that one exists.

[ozymandias]

better stock up on DEPENDS then.

This is not helpful. Please stop with the personal attacks, and the off-topic posts. All you are doing is encouraging juvenile behaviour, and making it more difficult to keep people on-topic.

[ozymandias]

Blindly not believing is a dislike.

First off, my not-believing is not blind. I have spent time, energy and effort looking into and discussing this topic. Through out the course of my life, I have never seen any evidence that *anything* supernatural exists, including a deity. It's not blind to reject flawed arguments, and fallacious logic.

Secondly, disbelief and dislike are not the same. I don't believe in magic, but I quite enjoy watching a competent magician's performance. My favourite book is 'The Hobbit'. You can like something without believing in it, or hate something you do believe in.

I neither like, nor dislike your god, I just don't see any evidence it exists.

Stop responding to questions not for you please.

[ozymandias]

that makes absolutely no sense; so FOR EXAMPLE if you don't believe in Christianity it means you dislike it?

Be careful here. You are mixing definitions of 'belief' here. He *does* believe Christianity exists, he just does not believe it is true -- and it is quite possible he hates Christianity, since it contradicts his religion.

so you you're saying you disbelieve things based on your personal tastes NOT whether they're true? What kind of nincompoop reasoning is that?

No I will respond just as you respond to my posts when they weren't directed at you; you don't get off that easily.

[ozymandias]

So pendejo you are expert in science,especially for biology ?

I'm not an expert, however, I *am* able to see that the reviews of that book overwhelmingly point out that the author is even less proficient in biology than I am. Even the *AUTHOR* has recanted and stated that this book is flawed. His later book even contradicts and corrects his claims in this book.

Why don't you refute this amateurish book.

See the already provided link. I see no reason to spend money, time, or effort reading that book, given that the experts have already shown that it has no merit. If there was any indication that this book had any merit, I would read it, and review it, but that's just twigs on a bonfire at this point.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

This is not helpful. Please stop with the personal attacks, and the off-topic posts. All you are doing is encouraging juvenile behaviour, and making it more difficult to keep people on-topic.

I'm also making this thread entertaining.

And sir you have made some personal attacks in more subtle ways as well

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Be careful here. You are mixing definitions of 'belief' here. He *does* believe Christianity exists, he just does not believe it is true -- and it is quite possible he hates Christianity, since it contradicts his religion.

Not needed, the context was outlined by him. Also I didn't mix definitions you did; "believing in" and believe exists are not the same thing.