Ask an American, agnostic and atheist man pretty much anything

[RevolutionThroughReason]

No one is denying science. You need the knowledge of science and spirituality to be complete. But spirituality>>>> science.

But what you're doing is mxing up unsubstantiable claims with ones we can substantiate


how can something any hocus pocus can make up be complete?

[DaZahroJaam.]

You worship and are satisfied by the work yet ignore the worker who completed it. Paintings paint themselves, smh


Yes, I am a snake just like everyone else. But I admit it and am not delusional about it. I have my own intentions

if I was to tell you that behind this door, there is this beautiful garden with all these mystical creatures and beautiful plants and whatnot, would you not want to see it for yourself or do you just want to sit there and hear me tell you about it instead?? If you want to see it, is it because you don't believe me or because you want to see this garden with your own eyes??
Its not that anyone is ignoring the creator but that people want to have a better understanding of him. Quraan is the book but he also created this world full of wonders and then gave you eyes to see and a brain to understand it with.

[کیش]

I have seen mystical creatures and that garden. Not everyone can or has, so you have to accept words of madmen like me and the Prophets. Or you could continue your search but you won't find it outside.

Atheism is just a fad. It'll go away soon I could tell you that much; Dajjal is alive and breathing, people will soon jump on that bandwagon

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I have seen mystical creatures and that garden. Not everyone can or has, so you have to accept words of madmen like me and the Prophets. Or you could continue your search but you won't find it outside.

Atheism is just a fad. It'll go away soon I could tell you that much; Dajjal is alive and breathing, people will soon jump on that bandwagon

Talk about contradicting yourself first you say "the evidence is all around us" now you say that you won't be able to find the evidence outside.


Which either tells us that you know you're full of hot air or you're so mentally unstable you say things erratically

[ozymandias]

No one is denying science.

You seem to be repeatedly denying what you think science is.

You need the knowledge of science and spirituality to be complete. But spirituality>>>> science.

Not true, on either point. Care to provide evidence on these two claims?

[ozymandias]

I have seen mystical creatures and that garden.

No -- you claim to have seen them. You have not yet provided any sort of proof of this claim.

Not everyone can or has, so you have to accept words of madmen like me and the Prophets. Or you could continue your search but you won't find it outside.

Atheism is just a fad. It'll go away soon I could tell you that much; Dajjal is alive and breathing, people will soon jump on that bandwagon

Feel free to believe that.

[ozymandias]

Talk about contradicting yourself first you say "the evidence is all around us" now you say that you won't be able to find the evidence outside.


Which either tells us that you know you're full of hot air or you're so mentally unstable you say things erratically

I think I am going to chalk this one up as 'language barrier'. Rather than assume that this is indeed a self contradicting mad-man, I believe that English is not their first language, and they are having difficulty making coherent points. It only appears insane and ignorant due to not fully understanding the words being used. They have already shown themselves to have no clue what 'science' and 'religion' mean, which makes this a nearly impossible conversation.

[ozymandias]

if I was to tell you that behind this door, there is this beautiful garden with all these mystical creatures and beautiful plants and whatnot, would you not want to see it for yourself or do you just want to sit there and hear me tell you about it instead?? If you want to see it, is it because you don't believe me or because you want to see this garden with your own eyes??
Its not that anyone is ignoring the creator but that people want to have a better understanding of him. Quraan is the book but he also created this world full of wonders and then gave you eyes to see and a brain to understand it with.

I like you. You are a great example of how religion and science can work together. Science does not need to replace religion (although for many it can). There are many devoutly religious people that accept science and use it to complement religion. The only problem is when you take religion literally and try to replace science with it.

And in all honesty -- wouldn't a creator want you to be all you can be, and use all the gifts given to you to explore their creation? Every artist I have ever met was the same way -- they wanted people to explore every inch of their creation and study it -- not cover most of it up and ignore the parts that they didn't like...

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I think I am going to chalk this one up as 'language barrier'. Rather than assume that this is indeed a self contradicting mad-man, I believe that English is not their first language, and they are having difficulty making coherent points. It only appears insane and ignorant due to not fully understanding the words being used. They have already shown themselves to have no clue what 'science' and 'religion' mean, which makes this a nearly impossible conversation.

No Kais was raised in New York, he was just a huge pothead and tried harder drugs, That may explain the mystical creatures bit.

[ozymandias]

No Kais was raised in New York, he was just a huge pothead and tried harder drugs, That may explain the mystical creatures bit.

But that does *not* explain his difficulties with the English language. His entire arguments appear to be based on him not knowing what the words he is actually using mean...

[RevolutionThroughReason]

But that does *not* explain his difficulties with the English language. His entire arguments appear to be based on him not knowing what the words he is actually using mean...

well that's true about even North American raised individuals. He's

He's one of those people who think "Theory" means "Guess"

watch ask him if he thinks evolution is "just a theory">

haha

[کیش]

No Kais was raised in New York, he was just a huge pothead and tried harder drugs, That may explain the mystical creatures bit.

Good run around buddy. Your a good example of an educated man

Who are you going to team up with next time with the popular view? Tune in next week

Run and join the person with the popular view and claim he's just reading others response. That's a good fallacy of saying you can't.


Should I be seeing you with me in hell? More than likely

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Good run around buddy. Your a good example of an educated man

Who are you going to team up with next time with the popular view? Tune in next week

you're saying that believing in unsubstantiated claims of creatures and invisible gardens isn't popular? ......and what's the team up nonsense about? don't you team up against me all the time, and accuse me of being an Uncle Tom just because I don't follow the accepted views of Muslim societies?

[ozymandias]

well that's true about even North American raised individuals. He's

He's one of those people who think "Theory" means "Guess"

watch ask him if he thinks evolution is "just a theory">

haha

That's an almost understandable mistake, but to confuse science and Scientology, or science and religion? Not so much...

[ozymandias]

Good run around buddy. Your a good example of an educated man

Who are you going to team up with next time with the popular view? Tune in next week

Run and join the person with the popular view and claim he's just reading others response. That's a good fallacy of saying you can't.


Should I be seeing you with me in hell? More than likely

Not at all likely, since there is no evidence it exists...