Ask an American, agnostic and atheist man pretty much anything

[ozymandias]

Alchemist, stop posting your bestiality porn, we know you feel down ebcause you can't mate with human women, you don't need to parade it around.

Don't encourage him.

[ozymandias]

Are you high?

Because half the time your mixing your arguments with other people with mines!

Do you realize that?

I'm sorry if that is the case. There are multiple people posting virtually identical drivel, and it is hard to keep the 50+ pages of it straight.

Anyway...

Just answer this

Is the war on Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya justified?

Yes and no. All three places have been run by dictators that refused basic human rights to their populace, and refused to change through peaceful means, so it is justified to remove these regimes and replace them with a democratic government that insures the rights of all people. I think that any government that does these things ought to be overthrown. Furthermore, Iraq and Afghanistan were harboring criminal organizations guilty of massive crimes against the US. Keep in mind, as well, that at the start of these conflicts there was additional evidence that more was going on than we know about now.

The methods used in these wars, though, were not all justified. Not enough effort was expended to insure that civilians were kept safe, and that the soldiers behaved in a responsible way. The attacks on military targets was justified, but the attacks on civilians, and non-combatants was unacceptable.

[graveyardofempires]

coke or pepsi?

[Alchemist]

[QUOTE=ozymandias;527458]I'm sorry if that is the case. There are multiple people posting virtually identical drivel, and it is hard to keep the 50+ pages of it straight.[quote]

Same drive?

Maybe that is your problem. Take a break son. You are getting way ahead of your self.

Yes and no. All three places have been run by dictators that refused basic human rights to their populace, and refused to change through peaceful means, so it is justified to remove these regimes and replace them with a democratic government that insures the rights of all people. I think that any government that does these things ought to be overthrown. Furthermore, Iraq and Afghanistan were harboring criminal organizations guilty of massive crimes against the US. Keep in mind, as well, that at the start of these conflicts there was additional evidence that more was going on than we know about now.

The methods used in these wars, though, were not all justified. Not enough effort was expended to insure that civilians were kept safe, and that the soldiers behaved in a responsible way. The attacks on military targets was justified, but the attacks on civilians, and non-combatants was unacceptable.

Absolute B.S

There was no evidence given that OBL was responsible for 9/11!


You actually believe that 19 amatures were able to hijack four planes and by pass all security protocols of the most advanced nation?!

WOW!

So I was right then.

Under the pretext of Human Rights Violation, the UN sanctions wars, and people like you accept that!

Nevermind the hypocrisy! The UN was about to award Qadhafi with a humanitarian award for 2011 for upholding human rights! Now you say that it was justified because he violated human rights?
No! Seriously...what are you smoking?

[ozymandias]

coke or pepsi?

I don't drink either. I avoid soda.

[graveyardofempires]

mcdonalds or burger king?

[Alchemist]

LOL

actually you are right GOE...this guy is just an attention *****.

[ozymandias]

Same drive?

The word is drivel.

Maybe that is your problem. Take a break son. You are getting way ahead of your self.

I'm fine. You are the one having trouble with language and making logic errors. We can slow down if you would like. Take your time.

Absolute B.S

There was no evidence given that OBL was responsible for 9/11!

Well, other than the fact that he claimed responsibility. And the piles of evidence that they found. But other than that, i guess you are right.

You actually believe that 19 amatures were able to hijack four planes and by pass all security protocols of the most advanced nation?!

You actually think it would have been hard? They brought weapons on board that were allowed at the time, and used them to hijack a plane, exactly as has been done before. The only difference is they did not negotiate, they crashed the planes into a target.

WOW!

So I was right then.

Under the pretext of Human Rights Violation, the UN sanctions wars, and people like you accept that!

Nevermind the hypocrisy! The UN was about to award Qadhafi with a humanitarian award for 2011 for upholding human rights! Now you say that it was justified because he violated human rights?
No! Seriously...what are you smoking?

*sigh*

Looks like you can use a history lesson.

[ozymandias]

mcdonalds or burger king?

Neither. Both taste like greasy cardboard. I don't eat out much. It is far to expensive, and I can create far better tasting food for a fraction of the cost.

[ozymandias]

LOL

actually you are right GOE...this guy is just an attention *****.

Feel free to go away, or ignore me. The forum conveniently gives you an 'ignore list'. I can help you figure out how to add my name to that list if you would like.

[Alchemist]

The word is drivel.



I'm fine. You are the one having trouble with language and making logic errors. We can slow down if you would like. Take your time.



Well, other than the fact that he claimed responsibility. And the piles of evidence that they found. But other than that, i guess you are right.



You actually think it would have been hard? They brought weapons on board that were allowed at the time, and used them to hijack a plane, exactly as has been done before. The only difference is they did not negotiate, they crashed the planes into a target.



*sigh*

Looks like you can use a history lesson.

Well now it all makes sense.

You believe box cutters are weapons? They could over power military trained pilots with just that?

These guys couldn't barely fly a plane after only 6 months of training, but you think were able to pull off a stunt in air that only a few pro level pilots in the world could?

You can believe some really ridiculous things! Can't you?

Like how a building that was engineered to withstand 3000 Celsius degrees of heat would have its steel structure melt by not even half as much heat?

Even though OBL went on record and denied involvement a few days after the incidence, you still accept the falsified video of him praising the attacks? We can go over the mistakes of that video if you like.

Why don't you weigh the evidence? Study what happened?

Are you a sheep? That you believe everything that is fed to you by the government?

9/11 was an inside job. That is a fact. Let's go over the evidence. The fact that wtc 7 got "pulled" down the same day is proof enough.

You want to do that?

[graveyardofempires]

OMG
Alchemist just opened a can of worms no one wants to discuss.

[ozymandias]

Well now it all makes sense.

You believe box cutters are weapons?

You don't think you could kill a person with one?

They could over power military trained pilots with just that?

What military pilots? These were civilian aircraft with civilian pilots. Who said they 'overcame' them, and didn't just pull a hostage and tell the pilot to leave the cockpit, or the hostage dies?

These guys couldn't barely fly a plane after only 6 months of training, but you think were able to pull off a stunt in air that only a few pro level pilots in the world could?

A bet half of all American kids could do it. It's not hard to point the plane at something. The hard parts are taking off and landing. Heck, when I was in 4th grade *I* flew a plane. It wasn't hard. I just pointed the stick where I wanted to go, and the actual pilot did the landing/take off.

You can believe some really ridiculous things! Can't you?

Not really. I can't believe it without evidence, and once it has evidence, it is not really ridiculous anymore.

Like how a building that was engineered to withstand 3000 Celsius degrees of heat would have its structure steel structure by not even half as much heat?

Say what now?

Even though OBL went on record and denied involvement a few days after the incidence, you still accept the falsified video of him praising the attacks? We can go over the mistakes of that video if you like.

Actually, you have that reversed. He supposedly denied it *prior* to his confession.

Why don't you weigh the evidence? Study what happened?

I did. Why don't you?

Are you a sheep? That you believe everything that is fed to you by the government?

Actually, no. That's actually why I am here, as I have stated time and time again.

9/11 was an inside job. That is a fact.

Facts are true. This is not true, ergo, not a fact.

Let's go over the evidence. The fact that wtc 7 got "pulled" down the same day is proof enough.

Pulled down? I think you translated that wrong. You mean "burned down". Considering the damage to the 2 towers, and the proximity of WTC 7, the lack of a fire suppression system, and the lack of firefighters to combat the blaze, the building burning down is not very strange at all.

You want to do that?

Let's go for it. Maybe you will have better luck that you did disproving evolution.

[ozymandias]

OMG
Alchemist just opened a can of worms no one wants to discuss.

I don't really want to discuss it, simply because he has no understanding of basic science -- but it ought to be amusing watching him make a fool out of himself.

[gomal]

are u in love with toramakha kaffir???