Tasawwuf In Light Of Quran And Hadith (PASHTO KHITAB)

[Saif ul Haq]

So we've dissected all the evidence the people of Tasawwuf try to use to cover up their irreligious beliefs

[Baygham]

So we've dissected all the evidence the people of Tasawwuf try to use to cover up their irreligious beliefs

and in the process unearthed your deep desire to use religion to curb dissent and strengthen your political muscle. ie. make better servetn subjects that follow state sanctioned wahabi propaganda to prepare or prolong authoritative rule of a monarch (khalifa). Hoping in the process to be one of the court jesters.

[Haneef]

So we've dissected all the evidence the people of Tasawwuf try to use to cover up their irreligious beliefs

We? whose we?

And what irreligious beliefs are these? tasawuf is simply having the inner prophet character where fiqh is the other..tasawuf is the inner Fiqh.

[Son of Mountains]

What is the dominant sufi order in pashtoons,
I have seen some nagshbandis and many qadri in peshawar, Forgot the order of Pirbaba, wasnt qadri. Other Tariqah's are the suhurwardi and Chistie (i remember a few of them as well), never met a rifayee in pashtooon land though.

Majority of Pashtuns are attached with Naqshbandiya silsila.
However, others are attached with Qadria too.
Lesser are with Chishtia and Soharwardia.
Azeemia is a fastly growing roohani silsila in KPK now-a-days.

[Saif ul Haq]

and in the process unearthed your deep desire to use religion to curb dissent and strengthen your political muscle. ie. make better servetn subjects that follow state sanctioned wahabi propaganda to prepare or prolong authoritative rule of a monarch (khalifa). Hoping in the process to be one of the court jesters.

Whatever your problem is, Islaam plays a strong role in our culture, some may not use Islaam in a proper way (I agree on this), yet if we followed and implemented it the way we are suppose to, we can achieve beyond our imagination

The key here is to do what we can by using Islaam in order to appease the One who brought us here

If you want a world without violence, than you're living in an unrealistic mindset, violence plays a key role in almost everything, what matters is if you use violence in the proper way

[Saif ul Haq]

We? whose we?

And what irreligious beliefs are these? tasawuf is simply having the inner prophet character where fiqh is the other..tasawuf is the inner Fiqh.

That's not the case since there's no authenticity for Tasawwuf in Islaam

[Pakhtun_Policy]

So we've dissected all the evidence the people of Tasawwuf try to use to cover up their irreligious beliefs

You havent disected nothing.Just made a big fool of yourself following wahabism.A fitna predcited by Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) wich we were warned of,and yet you follow it. Maybe you should read all the Hadiths on this site that warn in detail of the wahabi fitna:

http://najd2.wordpress.com/


If it isnt clear to you then i will make it clear to you.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

That's not the case since there's no authenticity for Tasawwuf in Islaam

No authenticity of Tasawwuf ? LOL

Did you know what the son of the wahabi founder that you so adhenrently follow said about Tasawwuf:

Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (1115 - 1201 AH.)

"My father Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab and I do not deny or criticize the science of Sufism(Tasawwuf), but on the contrary we support it, because it purifies the external and the internal of the hidden sins, which are related to the heart and to the outward form. Even though the individual might externally be on the right way, internally he might be on the wrong way. Sufism is necessary to correct it." [ad-Dia'at mukathaffa did ash-Shaykh Ibn Abdul Wahhab,p.85 ]

[Haneef]

Owned again!!! LOL

[Saif ul Haq]

Your religion doesn't seem to be based upon what Rasoolullaah said

All you have is people's opinions and nothing from Islaam, so at the end, you will be owned by the hellfire inshAllah and I have no remorse for that, since it was you guys who abandoned the Sunnah and Tasawwuf is not from it

[Haneef]

good thing you are not giving tickets to hell....else we would all be there

[Mujib]

Yes dancing is permissible as long as it's not provocative. We must follow what Allaah and Messenger of Allaah had permitted and allowed

The hadith in discussion and the hadith of the companions hopping around the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) are in fact the hadiths cited as proof for the permissibility of dancing. How then do you claim they have nothing to do with dancing and also admit the permissibility of dancing? Upon what is the permissibility of dancing based?

Dancing is not Thikr nor is it permissible to dance while making Thikr

If dancing is permissible and dhikr is recommended, why can the two not be combined, since the command to make dhikr is general? If a group of mujahidin repeated "Allahu akbar" during an attan before a battle, would they be doing something haram?

What constitutes as legal text in Islaam are the Qur'an and authentic ahadeeth

There should be no concerns about what school holds what opinion as their opinions aren't considered Islaamic law

The fiqh of the four schools (madhhabs) is indeed Sacred Law. I advise you to study fiqh with a qualified scholar.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

What is the dominant sufi order in pashtoons,
I have seen some nagshbandis and many qadri in peshawar, Forgot the order of Pirbaba, wasnt qadri. Other Tariqah's are the suhurwardi and Chistie (i remember a few of them as well), never met a rifayee in pashtooon land though.

Among the Pashtuns the major Tasawwuf orders are QADIRI,CHISTIS and some NAQSHBANDIS. These Sufi orders again can be divided into "branches" from the major orders .Example:

Qadria --> Rifai
Chistia --> Sabria,Nizamia
Naqshbandi ---> Mujaddadia

The two first orders are very powerful orders. It has been reported by x- russians soldiers who later converted to Islam that when the Mujaheddin during the Afghan / Russian war used to do zikr(Qadria zikr) before enganging in combat with the infidels, the zikr sound used to scare the russians because the Mujaheddins zikr ,sounded like LION ROAR.

Here I give an example of that. Watch this Qadria Zikr.It sounds like "lion roar" when it gets intense.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

Exactly, these people are obssessed with sufis and what others do. When i used to go to their circles, it was all about how everyone else is wrong and they are right, so much hate. The ahlal Sunnah wal jammah concentrate on learning the deen first!

[شمله ور خراساني]

It sounds like "lion roar" when it gets intense.

Or bark like dogs