Silencing the enemies of islam from najd

[Pakhtun_Policy]

This site is a brilliant site that exposes the true face of the wahabi cult in light of Hadith and present day facts. Its a must site for viewers to browse through. Solid proof from several Hadiths are given to expose the evil wahabi cult:

http://najd2.wordpress.com/

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: The Prophet (s)said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The People said, “And also on our NAJD.” He said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! And also on our NAJD.” I think the third time the Prophet (s) said, “There (in NAJD) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan.”

Sahi Bukhari (Book #88, Hadith #214)






The brother of Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab al Najdi, Shaykh Sulaiman bin Abdul Wahab, said about his brother, “The horn of Shaytan which the Prophet (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam) referred to is you.” [Sawaa’iqul Ilahiya]



http://najd2.wordpress.com/

[muhsina]

I dont think we should indulge in this discussion.This is the special hobby of the perpetrators of organised religion.To me all of them from east to west and from north to south are hopeless creatures because they could not raise a single voice of rebellion against the monarchy in the last 100 years.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

I dont think we should indulge in this discussion.This is the special hobby of the perpetrators of organised religion.To me all of them from east to west and from north to south are hopeless creatures because they could not raise a single voice of rebellion against the monarchy in the last 100 years.

Sister, you are very wrong. If you go through that site given you will see that the Prophet (pbuh) has warned as severely in several Hadiths against this evil fitna.Therefore its in the best interest of Islam and muslims to enlighten them about this evil fitna called WAHABISM. This way they will never fall prey to this fitna. And I have very good news for you,this fitna will soon be destroyed by the armies of Imam Mahdi ...

[muhsina]

Oh nooooooo...Let me ask you a question.....
Do you support loy afghanistan because it will be ruled by Imam Mehdi [who ever he is] and you are waiting for him wearing a black turban to support his army?

[Pakhtun_Policy]

Oh nooooooo...Let me ask you a question.....
Do you support loy afghanistan because it will be ruled by Imam Mehdi [who ever he is] and you are waiting for him wearing a black turban to support his army?

I am shocked that you dont know who Imam Mahdi is.Go and read Sunni hadith about him ,InshAllah then I will answer your question..

[muhsina]

Mr Pakhtun religeous policy maker

Are you mocking Pakhtuns by asking them to work for Loy Afghanistan while at the same time you running the Fan Club of Imam Mehdi.

I am shocked that instead of striving for Loy Afghanistan using politial means you preaching your religeous sermons.

Though I am least interested but for your information Imam Mehdi is not mentioned in the Quran hence it not a part of faith and the hadith in which it is mentioned is very weak as far as authenticity is concerned.

We already have a lot of priests here I am sure you will have a good time wasting your precious time with them discussing futile issues which are of no practical importance to Afghans so feel at home.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

Mr Pakhtun religeous policy maker

Are you mocking Pakhtuns by askign them to work for Loy Afghanistan while at the same time running the Fan Club of Imam Mehdi.

I am shocked that instead of striving for Loy Afghanistan using politial means you preachign your religeous sermons in the name of political struggle.

Though I am least interested but for your information Imam Mehdi is not mentioned in the Quran hence it not a part of faith and the hadith in which it is mentioned is very weak as far as authenticity is concerned.

We already have a lot of priests here I am sure you will have a good time wasting your precious time with them discussing futile issues which are of no practical importance to Afghans so feel at home.

This section is called "RELIGION".In this section I discuss religous matters,as Islam is part of my life and religion is also "Pakhtun interest" .

On "Political talk" I discuss Pakhtun Policy.


And you better check your understanding of Imam Mahdi once again ,because Hadiths about Imam Mahdi are not weak. There are numerous Hadiths that foretells his coming.Imam Mahdi is of practical importance for all Muslim Ummah,only wahabis (maybe you are one) denies his existance.

[شمله ور خراساني]

the hadeeth about najd, Imam Ibn Hajar al Asqalani explained this hadeeth saying that Najd in this hadeeth refers to current day Iraq.

Also, I can post an authentic hadeeth praizing the Tribe of Banu Tamim.

It is really pathetic to what extent Sufis have to go to spread falsehood.

[شمله ور خراساني]

The Hadith of Najd

by Brother Abû Rumaysah
http://www.islaam.net

The Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said,
"O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."
Reported in al-Bukhaaree [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]
A hadeeth which has some controversy surrounding it due to obvious sectarian reasons. A hadeeth which has been (deliberately) misunderstood by certain groups of people in order that they may spread their misguidance and deceive ignorant Muslims.
This because upon research and investigation and looking to the words of our early scholars we find that this hadeeth does not refer to the Najd that is famously known in Saudi today, but rather it refers to Iraaq.
About two years ago I read a book entirely devoted to this hadeeth entitled, "an-Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan" [I cannot remember the author as I do not have the book on me anymore.] I will quote in general from what I remember from this book, and refrain from mentioning precise quotes except from those references that I have on me.
Amongst the scholars that are mentioned who referred this hadeeth to Iraaq were: al-Khattaabee, al-Kirmaanee, al-Aynee, an-Nawawee, ibn Hajr and others. The reasons behind this are numerous and clear:

The Generality of the Hadeeth Pertaining to the Fitna Coming from the East.
Al-Bukhaaree includes this hadeeth in the chapter: "The affliction will appear from the East"
212) From the father of Saalim: The Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, stood up besides the pulpit (and pointed towards the east) and said: "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there! From where appears the horn of Satan" or he said, "the horn of the Sun"
213) From ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alyahi wa sallam, saying while facing the east: "Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan."
214) The hadeeth of Najd under discussion.
Similar hadeeth can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 4 no.'s. 6938+). Hadeeth that give the same meaning can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 1 no.'s 83+)

That the Generality of the Early Trials and Tribulations arose from the East, many of them actually in Iraaq itself.
Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said after quoting the words of al-Khattaabee explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn), "and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose, arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction." [Fath al-Baaree 13/58 in commentary to the hadeeth of Najd]
Amongst the trials that arose in Iraaq and the east was the martyrdom of Alee, the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, the first battle between the Muslims occurred in Iraaq, and many more.
Imaam Nawawee mentions that one of the greatest trials to appear from the East will be the appearance of the Dajjaal. [Sharh Saheeh Muslim 2/29]
From the innovations that appeared in the east and specifically Iraaq, was many of the early deviant sects amongst them the Qadariyyah (as the first hadeeth in Muslim shows), the Jahmiyyah and their offshoots etc...
That at the time of the Prophet, sallaahu alayhis wa sallaam, there were 13 places known as Najd [according to 'Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan'] depending on where one was. This because Najd linguistically means a raised/elevated land. Therefore the Arabs referred to lands that were elevated with respect to them as Najd. One of the most commonly referred to areas at that time as Najd was Iraaq.

The Najd for those people living in Madeenah in the direction of the East would be Iraaq.
Ibn Hajr said: "al-Khattaabee said: 'the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madeenah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraaq and it's regions [baadiya al-Iraaq wa Nawaaheehaa] for this is to the east of the People of Madeenah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihaamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihaamah.'"
Ibn Hajr continues, "by this [saying of al-Khattaabee] the weakness of the saying of ad-Daawodee is understood that 'Najd is in the direction of Iraaq' [min Naahiya al-Iraaq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr." [Fath al-Baaree 13/58-59]
Al-Mubaarakfooree endorses these words in his commentary to Sunan at-Tirmidhee (10/314 no.4212)

The Hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim [4/1505 no.6943]
Saalim bin Abdullaah bin Umar said: O people of Iraaq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullaah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, saying while pointing his hand to the east: "Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another..."

The Variations in Wording of the Hadeeth of Najd that Leave no Doubt Whatsoever as to what it refers to.
The hadeeth of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu'aym in al-Hilya (6/133), "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Shaam, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa'inaa wa muddinaa)." A person said, " O Messenger of Allaah and in our Iraaq" and so he turned away from him and said, "there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan."
Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut declares it's isnaad to be saheeh as in his footnotes to 'Sharh as-Sunnah' (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattaabee quoted above.
The hadeeth of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' that the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our Shaam and our Yemen." A person said, "And Iraaq O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves."
Ibn Hajr al-Haythamee says in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (3/305 - chapter 'collection of du'aas made for (Madeenah)'): 'its narrators are trustworthy and precise.'
[This hadeeth could possibly considered to be the same as b) above, but I have included it separately due to the slight difference in wording. Allaah knows best.]
The hadeeth of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Kabeer' that the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, supplicated and said, "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam and Yemen." A person from amongst the people said, "O Prophet of Allaah and Iraaq?" He said, "indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed harshness/coarseness is in the east."
Al-Haythamee says: "it's narrators are trustworthy and precise." (ibid.)

The Virtues of Bani Tameem
Bani Tameem constitute the majority of the inhabitants of the Najd that is in Saudi Arabia.
The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): "I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said about them. I heard him saying, 'these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.' When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk." Aa'ishah had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa'ishah, 'manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa'eel, alayhis salaam.'"
[Hadeeth no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath] Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said, "this hadeeth also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem." [Fath 5/217]
The hadeeth of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, "do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal."
Al-Haythamee says: "its narrators are those of the Saheeh." [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem]
It is not strange that Bani Tameem would be the most severe against the Dajjaal, because the tools required to combat him are none but a correct and firm belief and proper beneficial knowledge. Alhumdolillaah many of the scholars of Saudi are from the most noble and skilled scholars on the face of this earth today, firmly upon the way of our noble Messenger, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam.
This is what Allaah has allowed me to very quickly put together. And our Lord Most High Knows best.




The Hadith of Najd

[Haneef]

the hadeeth about najd, Imam Ibn Hajar al Asqalani explained this hadeeth saying that Najd in this hadeeth refers to current day Iraq.

Also, I can post an authentic hadeeth praizing the Tribe of Banu Tamim.

It is really pathetic to what extent Sufis have to go to spread falsehood.

Shaykh al-Islam Ahmad ibn Hajar 'Asqalani (d. 852/1449; Rahimullah), the mentor of Hadith scholars and author of the book "Fath al-Bari bi sharh Sahih al-Bukhari", which not a single Islamic scholar can dispense with, was Ash'ari. The shaykh of the scholars of Sunni Islam, Imam Nawawi (d. 676/1277; Rahimullah), author of "Sharh Sahih Muslim" and many other famous works, was Ash'ari.

Ooops, you lose again!!

[Pakhtun_Policy]

pakhtun_policy , are you a shia?

hardcore sunni

[شمله ور خراساني]

Ooops, you lose again!!

Grow up. This is not a silly childish game.

Can you bring evidence from Ibn Hajar al Asqalani's own writings where you can prove that he was in fact an Ash'ari?

And even if he was an Ash'ari, does that mean that his tafseer of hadeeth of najd is somehow not valid as evidence against the slangers of the jahmite Sufis?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Pakhtun_policy , are you a shia?

Sufis and Shi'ites are like two faces on the same coin. In fact, the first Sufi was a Shi'ite.

[Pakhtun_Policy]

the hadeeth about najd, Imam Ibn Hajar al Asqalani explained this hadeeth saying that Najd in this hadeeth refers to current day Iraq.

Also, I can post an authentic hadeeth praizing the Tribe of Banu Tamim.

It is really pathetic to what extent Sufis have to go to spread falsehood.

SubhanAllah, you wahabis make fun out of your self. Look clearly at the map. Tell me is Iraq in the EAST of Madinah or is it in the NORTH of Madina?









Well the map doesnt lie. Truth is that Iraq is in NORTH and NAJD is in EAST,therefore its not Iraq that is mentioned in the Hadith:

Ibn 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood by the door (of the apartment of) gafsa and, pointing towards the east, he said: The turmoil would appear from this side, viz. where the horns of Satan would appear, and he uttered these words twice or thrice and Ubaidullah b. Sa'ld in his narration said. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had been standing by the door of 'A'isha. (Sahih Muslim, 41: 6939)

Salim b. Abdullah reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), while turning his face towards the east, said: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil. would appear from this side-the side where appear the horns of Satan.(Sahih Muslim, 41:6940)

Narrated Ibn 'Umar: The Prophet said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The People said, "And also on our Najd." He said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan." (Sahib Bukhari, 88:214)

It can be deduced from the above Hadith that Najd is neither blessed nor a good place but one of Fitna and Evil. Najd has been deprived of the prayers of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and therefore Najd has the seal of misery and misfortune and hoping for any good from there is going against the Will of Allah.

NOTE: NAJD IS THE CENTRAL EASTERN PART OF ARABIA LYING EXACTLY TO THE EAST OF HEJAZ OR MEDINA, PRESENTLY CALLED AS RIYADH HAIL , BURRAYDAH THE CAPITAL OF HYPOCRITES WAHHABIS AND SALAFIS ,THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE GREAT DEVILS AND FITNAH IBN ABDUL WAHHAB AND THE PRESENT WAHHABI SALAFI SAUD DYNASTY

Now days the fitnah from Najd the Wahhabi/Salafi are trying to Hide themselves by often Quating the below hadiths falsely making

mockery and joke of Common Muslims and thier minds by claming NAJD IS IRAQ ?

So lets us examine thier shameful claims and clear any confusion that NAJD IN SAUDI ARABIA IS IRAQ ?

Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, supplicated and said, “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam and Yemen.” A person from amongst the people said, “O
Prophet of Allaah and Iraaq?” He said, “indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed
harshness/coarseness is in the east.“

The hadeeth of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabaraanee in ‘al-Kabeer







Now days the fitnah from Najd the Wahhabi/Salafi are trying to Hide themselves by often Quating the above hadiths

SO LETS US CLARIFY THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL – THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (s) AND SAHABA OR COMPANIONS WHERE NOT SO
IGNORANT TO MAKE MOCKERY OF THEMSELVES BY CALLING NAJD IN SAUDI ARABIA AS IRAQ !!!???

what these Hypocrites fail to realize that in the above hadith Salim b.Abdullah Ibn Umar(r) was adressing the Kufa Hypocrites of Iraq who fought Against Imam Husaain (r) and Mayterd him, the Khawrij came from NAJD ( Central Part of Arabia which lies East to Hejaz or Medina) , but later made Iraq thier base to wage
the evil war against Hadrat Ali (r) and Hadrat Muwaih (r)and so they brought thier Fitnah from Najd in Saudi Arabia to Iraq as well Moreover Salim b.Abdullah Ibn Umar was fully aware that Najd in Saudi Arabia is the Original Place of Fitnah as the Najd Hadith was Narrated by his own Father Abdullah Ibn Umar (ra) that is why in the above Hadith of Sahi Muslim he clearly says that hisfather Abdullah Ibn Umar (ra) Fitnah will come from EAST (NAJD) INSTEAD OF IRAQ while adressing the Hypocrite Kufans of Iraq who participated in the Mytrdoom of ImamHussain (ra), if by any mistake he would have thought that the fitnah will come from Iraq he would have plainy said that the original Fitnah would come from Here (Iraq) instead of adressing that fitnah would come from a diffrent place than Iraq that is EAST (NAJD) Salim b. ‘Abdullah b. ‘Umar as saying: O people of Iraq, how strange it is that you ask about the minor sins but commit major sins? I heard from my father ‘Abdullah b. ‘Umar, narrating that he heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying while pointing his hand towards the EAST( Najd) : Verily. the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another.



I think I have made my point ad prooved beyond doubt that Iraq is NOT najd.

[unknownprince]

Its so funny how you can tell who is Shiite on the forum, haha, they make it so obvious.