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  • #31
    I personally know many of the famous Sufis that people like you idolize and look up to in the West - Habib 'Ali al-Jifri, Muhammad al-Yaqubi, Nooh Haa Meem Keller, Zulfikar Ahmed...who else is there? You name them and I've sat with them

    And from all this T concluded the Ahl al-Tasawwuf and Sufis to but the most corrupt individuals that I've ever met, they made Islaam into a corporation and their greed had no limits
    Liers, I gurantee you have not met or sat with these peole. You can't even spell their names, 'Nooh"???#?$#? Only a wahabi spells this way, like Aboo....don't lie man..seriously!

    What was so corrupt about them? what did they do that was corrupt?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
      Whatever the scenario becomes, if you can't prove tasawwuf from Qur'an or authentic ahadeeth, than there's no relationship between it and Islaam

      As Allaah says He has explained in detail, there's no ambiguity about Islaam, everything is in front of us
      of course you can prove it, these ulama do not make this up. You just don't read enough.

      You know I can't take your words seriously anymore, "I don't waste time reading biographies of scholars"...so how do you learn then??? how do you know what you are learning is correct or not? Enough of your BS!!

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      • #33
        Biographies of scholars are not a source for Islaam, nor learning their biographies is rewarding, I hope you knew that

        It's obvious that you're not on a normal level, that's the result of Tasawwuf, makes you unsane and see things that aren't there
        Last edited by Guest; 09-25-2010, 04:40 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
          Biographies of scholars are not a source for Islaam, nor learning their biographies is rewarding, I hope you knew that

          It's obvious that you're not on a normal level, that's the result of Tasawwuf, makes you unsane and see things that aren't there
          shows your lack of knowledge again, how old are you? what is your IQ level?
          What are scholars? they are the heirs of the prophet SAW. Who are these scholars? they range from anyone after the prophet SAW, Abu Bakr ,Umar, Uthman, Ali, and the rest of the sahaba (raa)...

          how does Shariah work? Quran, Sunnah, qiyas...

          Where is Quranic tafsir derived from? Saahaba, salaf,etc..
          Where is hadith Derived from? Sahaaba, salaf, etc..
          How did the the greats like imam Bukhtari and Muslim collect ahadith? by looking at the lives of the sahaba/tab`ieen that translated these hadith, hence the isnad was established.

          Oooopss..you lose again.

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