Was it the Ghaznavids or the Saffarids?
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Possibly both at different times. Since obviously there were Muslim Afghans but also Pagan Afghans that coexisted until the Ghaznawids. I think the Ghaznawid helped complete the transition.Originally posted by Sarbani View PostWas it the Ghaznavids or the Saffarids?
There was a Ghorid leader named "Muhammad' who the Ghaznawids called a kafir, but that could have been a maligning of a rival than an actual description of their faith. Who knows though?Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 03-25-2018, 12:09 PM.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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As far As I have read All Pashtuns were muslim by the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi, obviously many were muslim before him too but the whole process took a few hundred years, considering Islam came to Afghanistan during the time of the Ummayads.Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View PostPossibly both at different tribes. Since obviously there were Muslim Afghans but also Pagan Afghans that coexisted until the Ghaznawids. I think the Ghaznawid helped complete the transition.
There was a Ghorid leader named "Muhammad' who the Ghaznawids called a kafir, but that could have been a maligning of a rival than an actual description of their faith. Who knows though?
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Well Ghaznawids Chroniclers speak of non-Muslim Afghans too so I don't know.Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View PostAs far As I have read All Pashtuns were muslim by the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi, obviously many were muslim before him too but the whole process took a few hundred years, considering Islam came to Afghanistan during the time of the Ummayads.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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Not really. In the Baburnama he talks about some of the Afghan tribes he encountered as being infidels and others heretics. It is more likely that Pashtuns as a whole fully transitioned into being Muslims during the 1600s.Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View PostAs far As I have read All Pashtuns were muslim by the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi, obviously many were muslim before him too but the whole process took a few hundred years, considering Islam came to Afghanistan during the time of the Ummayads.
During Ghaznavi's time is too early. Not even Egypt or Iran were 'Muslim' at that time. About half of Iran was still Zoroastrian during Ghaznavis time and likewise Egypt's Coptic population was still a slight majority in that era.Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!
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The first ruler of the Ghaznavid was Sabuktagin. I don't think he converted us all to Islam, but his son Mahmud likely completed the process. Would you agree with that?Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View PostNot really. In the Baburnama he talks about some of the Afghan tribes he encountered as being infidels and others heretics. It is more likely that Pashtuns as a whole fully transitioned into being Muslims during the 1600s.
During Ghaznavi's time is too early. Not even Egypt or Iran were 'Muslim' at that time. About half of Iran was still Zoroastrian during Ghaznavis time and likewise Egypt's Coptic population was still a slight majority in that era.
Also, do you know how much of an impact the Saffarids had on the religious affiliation of Pashtuns?
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"In 1192 AD, according to Farishta, the army assembled by Muizz al din Muhammed bin Sam consisted of Turks, Tajiks and Afghans, and his opponent Pithorai (Prithoi Rai) assembled a force of Rajput and Afghan horsemen. Thus, in this great war Mussulmans and Hindu Afghans are represented as fighting on both sides, which probably indicates that they were not yet completely converted to Islam"
E.J. Brill's First Encyclopaedia of Islam, 1913-1936 By M Th Houtsma, T W Arnold, A J Wensinck Edition: reprint, illustrated Published by BRILL, Page 151 1993
Seems in the 12th century most of Pashtuns were not Muslims yet. I read somewhere that it was under the Ghaznawids when Tajiks became fully Muslims. I guess the Ghaznawid rule was a turning point for Islam for all Eastern Iranians.
Five centuries after the Islamic conquest and still the region wasnt fully Islamized. Those m*rons who claims Islam was imposed by force should get themselves a brain. Eastern Iranian lands have always been the stronghold of Iranian identity. Point to be noted."For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "
-Ferdowsi.
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Babur probably met some Pagan nuristanis and though they were pashtuns lol.Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View PostNot really. In the Baburnama he talks about some of the Afghan tribes he encountered as being infidels and others heretics. It is more likely that Pashtuns as a whole fully transitioned into being Muslims during the 1600s.
During Ghaznavi's time is too early. Not even Egypt or Iran were 'Muslim' at that time. About half of Iran was still Zoroastrian during Ghaznavis time and likewise Egypt's Coptic population was still a slight majority in that era.
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Hindu was the word for any infidel who worshipped idols, to the Turkic muslims all idol worshippers were Hindu.Originally posted by jama0112 View PostSeriously, i'm confused. So we were hindus before we turned muslims, or is hindu just another term for kafir? Because i always hear that pahstuns were always zoroastrians and buddhists, before we onverted to islam?
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