Islam reform needed urgently

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Muslims are killing and doing sucide bombings so they can bring sharia and practice these ugly things. How can one not insult them?

This is an old argument you've made which was debunked. If you want to bark at people, you clearly don't want change but just to stroke your own ego.

[maneatinglizard]

This is the only way Islam can survive in the future, nobody wants to follow these things anymore, this is not the 7th century anymore

If this were true, then no one has to do anything. Islam would just die on its own, and then you get your fantasy of the whole Muslim world turning into a bunch of low-T white wannabes.

In reality, Karachi realizes that this isn't happening. The Western world's economic dominance is crumbling, and the Muslim world is continuing to struggle against attempts at neutering it. Islam continues to grow, through both high birth rates and conversion.

Basically, Karachi threw his lot in with the losers, just as they started to falter, and is now angry over the fact that he made the wrong choice.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

When has it been debunked? Are you telling me that muslims are not doing these things? Most of your ugly Islamists are fighting for these world over. So they could practice this 7th century way of life

You don't pay attention and are stuck in your own echo chamber , that might be one reason. But you're just here to spew the same barking. So maybe you need a perma ban

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Yes muslims are having babies like rats I agree and the conversion is only happening with the uneducated people world over. But what is the point of all this? Why are idiot muslims focusing on quantity over quality? Even if half of world becomes muslim, you guys will still remain at bottom of every ladder, even then few million jews will still be able to defeat you in everything.

Like Maneatinglizard said, if you're so confident, you'd let Islam die off on its own, your antics just reveal that you know your own narrative is untrue, hence this panic mode.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I dont want Islam to die. Just want muslims to practice good things of Islam and burn all these ugly things, so no one practices them again

Everything is ugly or good, depending on the ugliness and goodness of the individual.

I think you need to be an environment more suited to your views.

[زده کوونکی]

I feel that the time has come for all religions but especially Islam to be either reformed (bare minimum) or better yet, retired altogether - I know I can get beheaded for saying things like that so I aim to cause minimal offence while commenting here.

I have absolutely nothing against the so-called "folk Islam" and traditional beliefs/cultural spirituality of the Indo-Afghan region such as visiting shrines, religious music/dance, amulets, use of substances like cannabis/hash, etc. and would like these to be preserved for their cultural value. One intellectual on TV (forgot his name) referred to this as the "Vedic Islam", a term I'm sure how to feel about tbh.

However, I cannot endorse any school of thought that penalizes one for being himself. I cannot be expected to obey such draconian laws and I want to live my life the way I chose. In my current worldview, there is no power higher than the adult human male until I have proof of a higher/Supreme creator being, I cannot believe in God. I don't know if I 100% subscribe to theory of evolution but how else can we explain how man came to be? Seems more likelier than an invisible giant fashioning Adam out of clay and Eve from his ribs.

Regardless of how man first appeared, evidently, he is the highest form of life.
If you want to get in to racial details, specifically the White Nordic male is superior - you can't deny it when presented with evidence, but generally all men are equal as a whole and nothing is above us. Every nation of man has its own unique characteristics but when united, no force is stronger than humanity; which should be the only religion.

[Firdousi]

I feel that the time has come for all religions but especially Islam to be either reformed (bare minimum) or better yet, retired altogether - I know I can get beheaded for saying things like that so I aim to cause minimal offence while commenting here.

I have absolutely nothing against the so-called "folk Islam" and traditional beliefs/cultural spirituality of the Indo-Afghan region such as visiting shrines, religious music/dance, amulets, use of substances like cannabis/hash, etc. and would like these to be preserved for their cultural value. One intellectual on TV (forgot his name) referred to this as the "Vedic Islam", a term I'm sure how to feel about tbh.

However, I cannot endorse any school of thought that penalizes one for being himself. I cannot be expected to obey such draconian laws and I want to live my life the way I chose. In my current worldview, there is no power higher than the adult human male until I have proof of a higher/Supreme creator being, I cannot believe in God. I don't know if I 100% subscribe to theory of evolution but how else can we explain how man came to be? Seems more likelier than an invisible giant fashioning Adam out of clay and Eve from his ribs.

Regardless of how man first appeared, evidently, he is the highest form of life.
If you want to get in to racial details, specifically the White Nordic male is superior - you can't deny it when presented with evidence, but generally all men are equal as a whole and nothing is above us. Every nation of man has its own unique characteristics but when united, no force is stronger than humanity; which should be the only religion.

You are contradicting yourself. Firstly you want Muslims to stop being Muslims while at the same time you want to live your life by your own rules and preach individual freedom for everyone except for Muslims.

Seems like you just want to impose your own individual desires on religious people. Its the typical individualist/liberal arrogance: you are free to do as you please as long as you do as I desire.

[Firdousi]

I dont want Islam to die. Just want muslims to practice good things of Islam and burn all these ugly things, so no one practices them again

This guy once sent me a PM asking me to bang his sister.

[زده کوونکی]

You are contradicting yourself. Firstly you want Muslims to stop being Muslims while at the same time you want to live your life by your own rules and preach individual freedom for everyone except for Muslims.

Seems like you just want to impose your own individual desires on religious people. Its the typical individualist/liberal arrogance: you are free to do as you please as long as you do as I desire.

Our brand of folk Islam is fine as a culture but what I mean is, there is no need for a "religion" as such. I believe that every body is free to live as they please - if someone wants to blow themselves up in the name of God, that's fine, just go do it away from innocent people and away from my property.

Well of course I am arrogant because I'm smart enough not to get tangled in the web (of deceit) haha

[زده کوونکی]

Karachi reform needed urgently.

-Cuckoldry.
-Inbreeding.
-Stupidity.
-Bigotry.
-Hatred of Muslims.
-Self-hating doctrine.
-Many absurd and hilarious aspects of Desi irrational behavior.
-Cow piss drinking complex.

This is the only way Karachi can survive in the future. Nobody wants to befriend or marry a cockroach like this anymore. This is not India, but Pashtun Forums. Behave yourself LOL

Just an observation: Islam is like the only "modern" religion that lets you marry a cousin - which in Hinduism, or the Western world, is not allowed.

And the only problem I have with India is that I enjoy red meat.

[زده کوونکی]

This guy once sent me a PM asking me to bang his sister.

Really? She hot?

[Firdousi]

Our brand of folk Islam is fine as a culture but what I mean is, there is no need for a "religion" as such. I believe that every body is free to live as they please - if someone wants to blow themselves up in the name of God, that's fine, just go do it away from innocent people and away from my property.

Well of course I am arrogant because I'm smart enough not to get tangled in the web (of deceit) haha

Got it. You support Liberalism and thats fine. But at this point its pretty obvious that Liberalism didn't work, don't work and will not work in the Islamic world. You can't seed coconuts in Iceland and expect it to bear fruits.

All these Western.imported ideologies have proved to do more bad than good to Islamic societies. The Islamic world is driving by its own dynamics not by Western standards. West defeated Islam during Colonialism and imposed fake nation states and secularism. Now the Islamic world is getting rid of that going back to its real and true nature.

[Firdousi]

Just an observation: Islam is like the only "modern" religion that lets you marry a cousin - which in Hinduism, or the Western world, is not allowed.

And the only problem I have with India is that I enjoy red meat.

Marrying your own cousin is allowed in the Western world. In India people even marry dogs, so marrying your own cousin isnt a big deal I guess.

Anyway this issue has been debated several times so its pointless to go back to it once again.

[زده کوونکی]

I wont hate Islam if these things are removed. There are good things in Islam no doubt, but there are many things that are outdated and dangerous that need to be changed. Islam needs to become modernized rather then be a cave men religion

Bhaiya ji let it be. You can't force your views, however enlightened, on these people because if you upset them, they will hunt you down and possibly even kill you. I wouldn't be surprised if your life has already been threatened via PM haha

[SavageCurry]

Only people who say reform or abolish Islam, are some inferiority filled **** stained Indian dotheads who are desperate for white people's validation/pat on the back. lmao