Islam reform needed urgently

[زده کوونکی]

Got it. You support Liberalism and thats fine. But at this point its pretty obvious that Liberalism didn't work, don't work and will not work in the Islamic world. You can't seed coconuts in Iceland and expect it to bear fruits.

All these Western.imported ideologies have proved to do more bad than good to Islamic societies. The Islamic world is driving by its own dynamics not by Western standards. West defeated Islam during Colonialism and imposed fake nation states and secularism. Now the Islamic world is getting rid of that going back to its real and true nature.

It may not work, thank God I'm not in charge of anything or I really would end up ruining lives. Any attempts at a secular re-education of the Islamic world will definitely take more than a few centuries before we see any tangible positive results.

Since the modern era, the West is all-powerful. I agree it wasn't always so and in the future it may not be so either - maybe the East will rise next or maybe the Middle East, who knows. But let me enjoy my decadent Western civilization while it lasts

[زده کوونکی]

Marrying your own cousin is allowed in the Western world. In India people even marry dogs, so marrying your own cousin isnt a big deal I guess.

Anyway this issue has been debated several times so its pointless to go back to it once again.

I don't think its allowed in every Western country, maybe where you are. Please show proof of somebody actually attempting to marry a dog.

Yes it is a boring issue.

[زده کوونکی]

Islam is the greatest unitary tool ever to have existed. Forget EU, forget European nationalism. there is no other way you can unite people from 100 different continents into one collaborating force.

Also it has 1400 years of history, that's not something to brush off easily. Safe to Islam is here to stay, and will only grow and expand into new territories.

Islam cannot be reformed, as it would be against Islam, since Quran clearly states eternal status. Islam is constant everywhere at all times.

Only people who say reform or abolish Islam, are some inferiority filled **** stained Indian dotheads who are desperate for white people's validation/pat on the back. lmao

It's a manipulation. People are only united as Muslims for the wrong reasons. It's like joining a gang - once you're in you'll fight for it until the end or at least until your fellow gang members start to turn on you.

For example, if me and you are face to face to right now debating and I offend you by making "blasphemous" remarks. How much money do you want to bet that you will turn into a physical fight or perhaps even homicide depending on your "aqeeda" or "love" for the Holy Prophet pbuh

[Firdousi]

It may not work, thank God I'm not in charge of anything or I really would end up ruining lives. Any attempts at a secular re-education of the Islamic world will definitely take more than a few centuries before we see any tangible positive results.

Since the modern era, the West is all-powerful. I agree it wasn't always so and in the future it may not be so either - maybe the East will rise next or maybe the Middle East, who knows. But let me enjoy my decadent Western civilization while it lasts

You are full of wrong assumptions, buddy. Just because I oppose Western influence in the Islamic world it doesn't mean I hate the West. Actually I have a lot of admiration for the West and there are many good things we should really import into our countries: separation of powers, legal certainty, meritocracy, technology, reason, science, medicine, and so on. Also Western secular humanism is really great and so is Western egalitarianism.

But the West has become extremely toxic. Their attempts to destroy gender roles, families, traditional values, manhood,.. along with feminism, selfishness, arrogance, social atomization, moral relativism, cynicism, demographic sterility, will eventually destroy their own societies.

[Firdousi]

I don't think its allowed in every Western country, maybe where you are. Please show proof of somebody actually attempting to marry a dog.

Yes it is a boring issue.

Yes, it is.

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[MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION] s sister marrying a dog here. Thats why I refused to bang her lol

Woman Marries Dog In Traditional Ceremony In India - YouTube

[زده کوونکی]

All relgions have good and _ucked up **** in them. However the problem with muslims is that they impose this stuff on others, because their religion says them to do it. In Pakistan, Saudi and so many muslim countries non muslims have wiped out basically, yet in the west muslim enjoy full freedom to whatever they want. Islam and muslims need to modernize and need to respect fellow human beings, all these things I have listed should be banned

I agree 100%. As of late, the negative aspects of religion seem to outweigh the positive. Minorities in the Muslim countries - may God help them!

[زده کوونکی]

There was a survey in England that showed how 25% of Mirpuri Punjabis are actually retarded because of cousin marriages, same is probably true for all muslims who are engaging in this

I know and its really fkced up. All Muslim communities worldwide are involved. Even among my relatives unfortunately. In India, the Hindus look down on us for this one particular aspect and I don't blame them. In Oman, I have seen people with "khaufnaak" facial features due to inbreeding.

I'm not judging people who wanna bang their cousins btw. If I had attractive hot cousins around my age I probably would want to as well - I know its bad but sex in general is a very grey area.

Ross tries to kiss his cousin - YouTube

[زده کوونکی]

No, I sent you a pic of your tajik mom and sister in my bed. Tajik women are coming to India droves for you know what, go search the net

Women of the former USSR are good looking and desperate.
Bollywood entices them. Kazakh, Kygryz, Uzbekistani and Tajikistani women head for India but few end up benefitting, more end up in trouble.

BTW easiest way to marry White - find a Ukranian or Belarusian.
They have good character as well as physiques. Ask people I know. A Kakar married a Ukranian and they live happily ever after.

[SavageCurry]

Who is talking about individual? These things are listed in quran and hadiths and they need to taken out completely

I don't know what allows dotheads to think they are superior to Muslims and therfor in position to tell us how to live our lives.

Karachi your culture and civilization is the absolute lowest of the low.















Fix your own **** first, no pun intended.

[SavageCurry]

There was a survey in England that showed how 25% of Mirpuri Punjabis are actually retarded because of cousin marriages, same is probably true for all muslims who are engaging in this

yet Indians are the most retarded people in the world:







Find me antything like this in Pakistan or anywhere in the Muslim world. Castrate yourself you donkey and allow us Pakistanis to plant our superior seed in your women.

[زده کوونکی]

Yes, it is.

400 Bad Request

[MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION] s sister marrying a dog here. Thats why I refused to bang her lol

Woman Marries Dog In Traditional Ceremony In India - YouTube

Hahah India never fails to amaze me.

[زده کوونکی]

The whole worlds wants Islam to reform you idiot panju, even your arab masters saudis are trying to reform, while you are licking their ass

Yes exactly. Even if the Saudis can manage straighten up in the future, these "Paindus" will still be stuck in the dark ages.

[SavageCurry]

I am no Hindu am I? I have clearly said all religions have ****ed up things, but these hindus are not imposing these things on others like you people, this is why I respect them much more then you tatti panjus

Also muslims drink Camel Urine too you moron, in fact in Madinah it is almost like a ritual

here: Driking Camel pee for allah - YouTube

who gives a **** what you are you whitewashed dothead. you are still a derivative of ****india. go fix your ****India before fixing elsewhere as that's worse off than most muslim countries.

[زده کوونکی]

You are full of wrong assumptions, buddy. Just because I oppose Western influence in the Islamic world it doesn't mean I hate the West. Actually I have a lot of admiration for the West and there are many good things we should really import into our countries: separation of powers, legal certainty, meritocracy, technology, reason, science, medicine, and so on. Also Western secular humanism is really great and so is Western egalitarianism.

But the West has become extremely toxic. Their attempts to destroy gender roles, families, traditional values, manhood,.. along with feminism, selfishness, arrogance, social atomization, moral relativism, cynicism, demographic sterility, will eventually destroy their own societies.

Lol it's good you don't hate the West. Of course it is far from perfect but I think it could serve as maybe a cautionary tale for our people in the future.

I agree with you there. I hate how these days a man cannot just be a man and a woman cannot be a woman - there's like 1000000000 different labels for gender "identities" that are just unnecessary in my view.

It was bad enough when they divided people into "gay" "straight" "bisexual" or transsexual but now is even worse - what the fck is LGBTQ++ and what's the difference between a man and a cis man? I know a "trans man" is still technically a woman although heaven forbid you say that to them!

We should be more like classical antiquity in this regard. In Ancient Greece, Rome, and the Muslim world, they had it right - man is a man is a man who can fck whoever he wants lol that's how I think it should be.

Feminism is something I have no civil words for. I think the rights of men are more in danger nowadays.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Who is talking about individual? These things are listed in quran and hadiths and they need to taken out completely

You did in fact that was yoiur original spiel, your issues with the text was already refuted numerous times months ago. Research what we wrote in those threads.

You really should leave this place. Find an Anti-Islam forum that agrees with you and you can pat each other on the back.