Western atheism

[Elite Pakhtun]

Thanks to us you Paki fools are Muslims today. Our ancestors raped yours. Show some respect, cockroach.

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Most Pashtuns are in Pakistan. Many in Pak voluntarily converted as well. Stop trying to steal credit. You get 1/3rd of a "thanks to us".

Must be a product of the NDS propaganda campaign. I bet NDS is still trying to read tea leaves as part of their intelligence operations. They're probably learning from the pidgeons used by RAW (that's why RAW was so scared of a pidgeon... their cover had been blown).

[Kakar-Wardak]

I am not really bothered with the athiest crusade, these fools in their love for this life have forgotten that only children preserve a culture, they talk their recycled arguments whilst we produce the next generation.

In other words just play the waiting game and wait for these old farts to die.

[Damir9000]

URSS is gone. We are talking about the modern mainstream atheism.

Its not about White atheists but about non-Whites. Most of you guys behave like you were Dawkins or Hitchens. I know some former Afghans Muslims who have rejected Islam but they still Afghans, they speak Farsi, they still have those familiar values, and so on.

But on the other hand there all these atheists like you, who reject every single aspect of our culture and identity. You are a mentally colonized person.

BTW don't know about gansters. We don't have them here in Europe. You want now to be a black gangster too?

Yeah let's forget about USSR because it shatters your point.

Nobody behaves like Dawkins or Hitchens, they are simply great intellectuals & educators.

You don't even know me to say what my values are.
And I have met enough Afghans to say their values are nothing special.
Just at the state of Afghanistan right now.

Gangsters ? lol
I was talking smart/education shaming that happens in Black Ghetto communities.

The only person who has a colonized mind is yourself. You still can't let go that Arab culture.

[Kabulistan]

Yeah let's forget about USSR because it shatters your point.

Nobody behaves like Dawkins or Hitchens, they are simply great intellectuals & educators.

You don't even know me to say what my values are.
And I have met enough Afghans to say their values is nothing special.
Just at the state of Afghanistan right now.

Gangsters ? lol
I was talking smart/education shaming that happens in Black Ghetto communities.

The only person who has a colonized mind is yourself. You still can't let go that Arab culture.

Atheism is a flawed concept. Dawkins is a fool who thinks he is ''intelectual''. Every atheist and his mom think they are an ''intelectual''. lol

I don't like or dislike Arabs, but Islam is bigger than that. It's not an Arabic concept anyway, it declares so in the Quran itself (being the final purest version of Abrahamic faiths). Just because it originated with an Arab prophet, doesn't mean it belongs to his tribe or race, and people are not slaves of Arabs for following Islam for their own benefit. Fact is Islam is beneficiarry on many levels. People who adopted Islam benefited from Islam on many levels.

Also Arab culture and Islam are two different things. Islam can be applied anywhere by any people. Arab culture is restricted and unique to Arabs.

[Damir9000]

Atheism is a flawed concept. Dawkins is a fool who thinks he is ''intelectual''. Every atheist and his mom think they are an ''intelectual''. lol

Overall atheism has negative impacts on societies with conservative values. I disapprove of it.

I don't like or dislike Arabs, but Islam is bigger than that. It's not an Arabic concept anyway, it declares so in the Quran itself (being the final purest version of Abrahamic faiths). Just because it originated with an Arab prophet, doesn't mean it belongs to his tribe or race, and people are not slaves of Arabs for following Islam for their own benefit. Fact is Islam is beneficiarry on many levels. People who adopted Islam benefited from Islam on many levels.

Also Arab culture and Islam are two different things. Islam can be applied anywhere by any people. Arab culture is restricted and unique to Arabs.

Atheism isn't a flawed concept. It's not a philosophy.

Dawkins is smarter than any Muslims I met or heard.

How is the Quran/Islam the final purest version of Abrahamic faiths?
Islam is just another ripoff. The Romans did it, Arabs did it too.

If Islam is so beneficial, why are Islamic countries so backward & poor
while secular countries, like Japan thrive?

It's blatantly obvious that Islam is a product of old Arab culture.

[Firdousi]

Yeah let's forget about USSR because it shatters your point.

Nobody behaves like Dawkins or Hitchens, they are simply great intellectuals & educators.

You don't even know me to say what my values are.
And I have met enough Afghans to say their values are nothing special.
Just at the state of Afghanistan right now.

Gangsters ? lol
I was talking smart/education shaming that happens in Black Ghetto communities.

The only person who has a colonized mind is yourself. You still can't let go that Arab culture.

Dude, don't be stupid. The way atheism was understood in the URSS was much different than the way you Westernized fools understand it today.

Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class

-Lenin.

Do you realize in the URSS religion was just a tool for the bourgeois? For commies you got to lose not only your faith but also adopt Communism. Same like modern Western atheism.

You are too stupid. Offense intended lol

[Firdousi]

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Most Pashtuns are in Pakistan. Many in Pak voluntarily converted as well. Stop trying to steal credit. You get 1/3rd of a "thanks to us".

Must be a product of the NDS propaganda campaign. I bet NDS is still trying to read tea leaves as part of their intelligence operations. They're probably learning from the pidgeons used by RAW (that's why RAW was so scared of a pidgeon... their cover had been blown).

I meant Desis. They were systematically raped by our ancestors so now they name their rockets after our forefathers lmao

[Firdousi]

I know a lot of "muslim: Afghans who drink alcohol party and have sex with belgian girls and even use drugs sometimes. But still go to friday prayer and will curse you in 7 language if you call them kafir or not following Afghan culture.

The so called belivers of Islam are not that much diffrent than atheist, but atleast atheist are not hidng and are not hypocrites, what most so called muslim Afghan are.

So what? Muslims are hypocrite. Captain obvious strikes here lol

Human beings are munafiq by nature. Just because you are an atheist it doesn't mean you are not hypocrite or you love being a womenizer. What kind of stupid logic do you follow, dude?

This guys proves how mental colonization works: "Muslims got flaws? Ok then lets become Westerners then!"

You are perfect example of an Uncle Tom. Coconut lol

[Kabulistan]

Atheism isn't a flawed concept. It's not a philosophy.

Dawkins is smarter than any Muslims I met or heard.

How is the Quran/Islam the final purest version of Abrahamic faiths?
Islam is just another ripoff. The Romans did it, Arabs did it too.

If Islam is so beneficial, why are Islamic countries so backward & poor
while secular countries, like Japan thrive?

It's blatantly obvious that Islam is a product of old Arab culture.

Your too stupid. Secularism has very little to do with how financially prosperous a country is. There are countless examples of not so prosperous secular countries all over the world, even in Europe.

Japan's history is a complicated matter, and requires its own thread. the rise of Japan depended on other factors than simply secularism. In short, they are where they are today, because USA helped them massively post WW2. I would dwelve on it further, but I don't have time right now.

One can reverse it, and ask you why are Mexico, Romania, Portugal, Thailand etc. poorer than USA, despite all being secular countries?

Obviously there are other factors at play than role of religion.

[Damir9000]

Dude, don't be stupid. The way atheism was understood in the URSS was much different than the way you Westernized fools understand it today.

Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class

-Lenin.

Do you realize in the URSS religion was just a tool for the bourgeois? For commies you got to lose not only your faith but also adopt Communism. Same like modern Western atheism.

You are too stupid. Offense intended lol

Like I said before.

Atheism isn't a philosophy. It's just the lack of belief in religion/God.
They have many different views & values etc...
There are communists, liberals, conservatives, humanists etc...

There is no Atheism book or rules.

Just because I am an Atheist doesn't mean I hold the same ideas as another Atheist.
The only Idiot is you for not understanding.

[Damir9000]

Your too stupid. Secularism has very little to do with how financially prosperous a country is. There are countless examples of not so prosperous secular countries all over the world, even in Europe.

Japan's history is a complicated matter, and requires its own thread. the rise of Japan depended on other factors than simply secularism. In short, they are where they are today, because USA helped them massively post WW2. I would dwelve on it further, but I don't have time right now.

One can reverse it, and ask you why are Mexico, Romania, Portugal, Thailand etc. poorer than USA, despite all being secular countries?

Obviously there are other factors at play than role of religion.

They are still doing better than any other Muslim country.

Just look at the Saudi Arabia & the Gulf States they are so rich, but yet have not contributed anything of value.

Religious Governments impede progress from Galileo to today.

How many centuries has it been since the "Islamic Golden Age" ?

[SpiritualBeast]

They are still doing better than any other Muslim country.

Just look at the Saudi Arabia & the Gulf States they are so rich, but yet have not contributed anything of value.

Religious Governments impede progress from Galileo to today.

How many centuries has it been since the "Islamic Golden Age" ?

Islam and Europe's history are different matters. your point is futile. Islam's pasts prove religion is not against progress. Islam encourages scientific progress. It's funny whenever this fact is presented, it's completely ignored ''but Islam is violent, barbaric and backward, cuz that's they show me on Fox News''...this is the only argument Islamophobes can provide and you can sense this is an emotion (often racist, I even remember yourself used racist slur toward Middle Eastern people in one thread) based stance born out of ignorance, racism and xenophobia.

How can a civilization that promotes and has an illustrious history of scientific progress be ''violent, barbaric and backward''?

We Muslims need to educate ourselves about our past, in order to build a better future. The regions inhabited by Muslims have been hotbeds of civilizations throughout the ages. The Islamophobes are ignorant of all history outside of Europe, afterall elementary history education is very Eurocentric in the West. All of this is to support White Supremacy/Western hegemony.

It doesn't matter how many centuries it has been. Ancient Greece was center of the world at one point, today they are pretty much irrelevant. Over the course of history, Muslims have contributed thinges of value, if they did it in the past, they can do it in future again. Clearly history proves Islam didn't hinder scientific progress. Nothing wrong with Islam itself.

THe point with Japan vs Mexico or Romania, was not all secular countries are like Japan, something you keep avoiding. If its secularism, then why is there an imbalance, when they are all secular? Clearly proves secularism has little relevance.

[Firdousi]

Like I said before.

Atheism isn't a philosophy. It's just the lack of belief in religion/God.
They have many different views & values etc...
There are communists, liberals, conservatives, humanists etc...

There is no Atheism book or rules.

Just because I am an Atheist doesn't mean I hold the same ideas as another Atheist.
The only Idiot is you for not understanding.

Thank you for proving me right and proving yourself wrong.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Jordan Peterson - The Problem With Atheism - YouTube

[Nekrofrost]

This post is dumb af(it must be hella dumb if its coming from me). Altho to some extent i agree that modern atheism is liberal garbage it isnt true for the most part. Its like saying all muslims are terrorists and like the other member mentioned, leftists of the west dont follow this kind of atheism most the time nor do any other atheists in non western countrie.