Oldest Quran pages dating back to the time of the Prophet found in UK

[Damir9000]

Not sure how this is relevant, but Ink when binding with parchment has certain colloidal properties. So they'd have to carbon date not just the parchment but the ink bonded with the parchment fibers.

But carbon date of the ink doesn't say when the Ink was actually used to write.

[Damir9000]

But it lends evidence that it was very UNLIKELY the case. Unless you want to develop a conspiracy theory. There would be no prior motive to forge one part and keep others in tact, since they had no clue that in the future Carbon Testing would exist.

I mean even we take the conspiracy theoristic approach, That would mean that these people had visions of the future. That in itself would be impressive and something to explore

People do it all the time when writing & printing a book.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

But carbon date of the ink doesn't say when the Ink was actually used to write.

It would because the concentration would tell us When the ink was used.


Which was my original point....That's why they use carbon dating.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

People do it all the time when writing & prining a book.

But they wouldn't just pick some arbitrary part to keep in tact or to forge most of it then keep one part in tact.

Can you show a case where of forging arbitrary parts and keeping the rest in tact? Or keeping a specific part and forging the rest?

[Damir9000]

It would because the concentration would tell us When the ink was used.


Which was my original point....That's why they use carbon dating.

So you're talking about the other debris that were trapped in the ink while writing?

[Brown Skinned Savage]

So you're talking about the other debris that were trapped in the ink while writing?

No the concentration of Carbon Radio-Isotopes. Did you ever learn about Half-Life decay in school?

[Damir9000]

No the concentration of Carbon Radio-Isotopes. Did you ever learn about Half-Life decay in school?

been a long time. please go ahead.

[Damir9000]

But they wouldn't just pick some arbitrary part to keep in tact or to forge most of it then keep one part in tact.

Can you show a case where of forging arbitrary parts and keeping the rest in tact? Or keeping a specific part and forging the rest?

Just because the parts of this Quran that were found correspond with today's Quran. It doesn't mean automatically the missing parts will also.
This finding only says the a parts of the Quran remain unchanged.

Unless they have a different copy from the same time that possesses the rest of the Quran. Only then could they say it remained unchanged.

Editing can happen in a short amount of time.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

been a long time. please go ahead.

I already explained it, but since It decays at a certain rate the Moles Of The Carbon Isotope would be at a certain concentration at a certain period of time.

If they used "old ink" to scribe it later, the ink would have sublimated. Since ink storage wasn't very good for that time. The Colloidal suspension of ink in parchment prevents it from doing that due to what's called Van Der Waals forces.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Just because the parts of this Quran that were found correspond with today's Quran. It doesn't mean automatically the missing parts will also.
This finding only says the a parts of the Quran remain unchanged.

Unless they have a different copy from the same time that possesses the rest of the Quran. Only then could they say it remained unchanged.

Editing can happen in a short amount of time.

But your suggestion would be very unlikely because it would mean they had fore knowledge on what to cherry pick and what not to.

Care to show a case where they kept arbitrary in tact with certain parts forged in tact or arbitrary parts forged with certain parts in tact

[Damir9000]

I already explained it, but since It decays at a certain rate the Moles Of The Carbon Isotope would be at a certain concentration at a certain period of time.

If they used "old ink" to scribe it later, the ink would have sublimated. Since ink storage wasn't very good for that time. The Colloidal suspension of ink in parchment prevents it from doing that due to what's called Van Der Waals forces.

I concede on this point. It's getting beyond my knowledge of ink & chemistry.

[Damir9000]

But your suggestion would be very unlikely because it would mean they had fore knowledge on what to cherry pick and what not to.

Care to show a case where they kept arbitrary in tact with certain parts forged in tact or arbitrary parts forged with certain parts in tact

who is "they"?

[Brown Skinned Savage]

who is "they"?

Whoever you may think hypothetically may have forged some document.

[کیش]

No the concentration of Carbon Radio-Isotopes. Did you ever learn about Half-Life decay in school?

easy there. that "Damir" guy, yeah well, you know, like doesn't speak this kind, of like language, man. like slow down a bit there, guy, man.

[Manzareh]

Lol when kafirs all of a sudden become conspiracy theorists lol