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  • #3
    Zaytuna is not a Muslim college. It is a Sufi College. They teach people shirk in Zaytuna

    Qasida Burda is shirk. And Zaytuna chants its all the time.
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    • #4
      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
      Zaytuna is not a Muslim college. It is a Sufi College. They teach people shirk in Zaytuna

      Qasida Burda is shirk. And Zaytuna chants its all the time.


      Are they kafir?

      Mujib wrora, why are you misleading us?
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
        Are they kafir?

        Mujib wrora, why are you misleading us?
        No. They are muslims. But misguided Muslims. They preach a particular branch of Sufism that promotes such ideas as the Hindu Advaita ( wahdatul wujood) and they chant songs that are in fact SHIRK. Such as Qasida Burda.
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        • #6
          How could they be Muslim when they are teaching shirk? Is not shirk the only sin that is NOT forgiven?
          Last edited by MeemWawMeemNoon; 07-23-2010, 09:59 PM.
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Sangar View Post
            No. They are muslims. But misguided Muslims. They preach a particular branch of Sufism that promotes such ideas as the Hindu Advaita ( wahdatul wujood) and they chant songs that are in fact SHIRK. Such as Qasida Burda.
            sangar wrora why are so much against sufism, it was born in afghanistan.

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            • #8
              Ahhh the great Zaytunaaaaaa! I've heard lots about it.

              I plan to teach here one day -- and one day soon, ka khairee.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                How could they be Muslim when they are teaching shirk? Is not shirk the only that is NOT forgiven?
                You cant just make general takfir on anyone who is misguided. I have not seen any scholar making takfir on people such as Hamza Yusuf.

                Neither do any scholar except some declare other Sufis and Imami shi'a as kaafir.

                In order to be declared a kaafir, you have to negate fundamental aspects of religion. Such as believing in a new prophet.


                But theoratically speaking, who practices shirk is outside the fold of Islam. But it is better for us not to go about declaring everyone a kaafir. Because unfortunately a large number of muslims have been misguided into believing in all these weird ideologies. And it up to us as Muslims to correct our beliefs and go back to the original version of Islam and eradicate our communities from shirk.

                A good step towards this mission is to confront charlatans and demagogues such as Hamza Yusuf and Faraz Rabbani. They are the advocates of these false beliefs and ideologies. And they are the ones who wrap up their deviance in nice and fancy words and sugar-coat their false ideology with labels such as "traditional Islam".

                But everybody can see through their lies. And alhamdulilah the correct dawah to Islam is spreading. And the educated and progressive Muslims flock to Quran & Sunnah.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by afghan View Post
                  sangar wrora why are so much against sufism, it was born in afghanistan.
                  Really? Then we should be really ashamed.

                  I hate Sufism. Because Sufism are spreading false version of Islam. They have incorporated Hinduism and Buddhism into our religion.
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
                    Ahhh the great Zaytunaaaaaa! I've heard lots about it.

                    I plan to teach here one day -- and one day soon, ka khairee.
                    Teach> I would say they will appoint you as the president.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                      You cant just make general takfir on anyone who is misguided. I have not seen any scholar making takfir on people such as Hamza Yusuf.

                      Neither do any scholar except some declare other Sufis and Imami shi'a as kaafir.

                      In order to be declared a kaafir, you have to negate fundamental aspects of religion. Such as believing in a new prophet.


                      But theoratically speaking, who practices shirk is outside the fold of Islam. But it is better for us not to go about declaring everyone a kaafir. Because unfortunately a large number of muslims have been misguided into believing in all these weird ideologies. And it up to us as Muslims to correct our beliefs and go back to the original version of Islam and eradicate our communities from shirk.

                      A good step towards this mission is to confront charlatans and demagogues such as Hamza Yusuf and Faraz Rabbani. They are the advocates of these false beliefs and ideologies. And they are the ones who wrap up their deviance in nice and fancy words and sugar-coat their false ideology with labels such as "traditional Islam".

                      But everybody can see through their lies. And alhamdulilah the correct dawah to Islam is spreading. And the educated and progressive Muslims flock to Quran & Sunnah.

                      Dearest brother, what is worst, to believe in another prophet or to associate partners with Allah?
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • #13
                        great
                        i wil for sure visit this place..
                        i wana get admission here :D

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                          Dearest brother, what is worst, to believe in another prophet or to associate partners with Allah?
                          I am not qualified to answer this question. Anything I say will probably be incorrect.
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                          • #15
                            Deep inside you know the answer.

                            Let me ask you a question: Do you believe that Zakir Naik is a kafir?
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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