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  • Pakistan: The True Heir Of Indus Valley Civilization

    No,Wonder its true.Pakistani are indeed the indigenous people of Indus valley civilization.

    Indus Valley civilization was even ahead of many other civlizations such as of iraq or Egypt.And nothing comparable in the region

    Claims About Pakistan being a successor state of Islamic Kingdoms of south asia is false.Pakistan rather is the Succession of Indus Valley civilization and Anything that fall under the ancient Indus valley civilization Geography are pakistani.

    By: Khan A. Sufyan

    December 25, 2012

    The vision of Pakistan’s founder Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in the 1940s did not only constitute creation of a Muslim political entity at the expense of India’s Hindu domination. It was also embedded in thousands of years of historical and geographical realities. These aspects clearly emerge from Jinnah’s interviews given to foreign correspondents where he described the geopolitical importance of Pakistan. The two nation reality also did not emerge only because of the differences between Hindu and Muslim peoples. It was an outcome of thousands of years of historical, geographical and genetic distinction between the peoples of Indus Valley Civilization and those occupying the Gangetic plains.



    The existence of Indus Valley Civilization emerged though the ruins at Harappa in Punjab, Pakistan which were first described by Charles Masson in 1842, in his “Narrative of Various Journeys in Balochistan, Afghanistan, and the Punjab.” Though the site was visited by General Alexander Cunningham in 1856, who later headed the archeological survey of northern India, it was in 1921-22 that the excavations began which unearthed the great civilization buried under the sand for thousands of years.

    The irony of it all was that it was General Alexander Cunningham who allowed East Indian Railways which was constructing railway line between the cities of Lahore and Karachi, to use the ancient bricks recovered from these sites as track ballast for the 150 kilometers of nearby stretch and thus destroyed much of the city of Harappa (3300 BC – 1300 BC). Mohenjodaro (2600 BC – 1900 BC) in Sindh, Pakistan was excavated by 1931. Mehrgarh (7000 BC -. 2500 BC) in Balochistan, Pakistan was discovered in 1974 and the excavations continued from 1974-86 and again from 1997-2000. Rehman Dheri (4000 BC) in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was excavated from 1976-1980. Based on recent evidence and analyses, archeologists and historians have proclaimed that Indus Valley Civilization is over 9000 years old, making it one of the oldest civilizations of the world.

    The South Asian subcontinent is principally divided into two major geographical regions; the Indus Valley and its westerly inclined tributaries, and the Ganges Valley with its easterly inclined tributaries. In his book, “The Indus Saga and the Making of Pakistan,” Aitzaz Ahsan identifies the geographical divide between these two regions as the Gurdaspur-Kathiawar salient, a watershed which is southwesterly inclined down to the Arabian Sea. This watershed also depicted the dividing line between the peoples of Indus Valley Civilization and those of Gangetic plains and also corresponds almost exactly with the current day Pakistan-India border.

    Historically, only the Mauryas, Muslims and the British amalgamated these two regions as a unified state. For most of the remaining history, when one empire did not rule both the regions as a unified state, the Indus Valley Civilizational domain was always governed as one separate political entity.

    Rather than an unnatural creation as propounded by many, Pakistan much more than the Gangetic plains, is an appropriate and modern embodiment of thousands of years old Indus Valley Civilization. The historical, geographical and its people’s organic linkages with Arab, Persian, Turkic and South Central Asian populace also clearly differentiates it as a distinct and definite independent identity as compared to the rest of India.

    The discovery of Indus Valley Civilization in the run up to 1947 independence of Pakistan and India provided Indian nationalist Hindus an opportunity, to embed their Vedic Hindu cultural identity in a civilization, which was one of the oldest civilizations on earth and also predated emergence of Islam. However, the later identification of emergence of Vedic Hindu cultural traditions between 1500 – 600 BC, discounted such linkages. Also, the fact that Indus Valley Civilization’s cultural moorings were discovered mainly in the Indus River Valley, and partly in Ghaggar-Hakra basin and in the Doab, these cultural moorings did not find an extension into the central and lower Ganges Valley in the eastern and central Indian plains. The presence of fortified cities, town planning and drainage system, depiction of specialized epic art form and the architecture of burnt bricks, sea trade, use of seals, weights, measures and script and the custom of burying the dead in cemeteries, presented clear differentiation because of the absence of such depiction in Vedic Hindu literature and culture.

    Many adherents of Indian Hindu nationalist ideology believed that India was and is a primarily Hindu nation and has Hindu religious culture in continuity from Vedic Aryans. The mosaic of cultures of the past evolving into composite Indian Hindu culture through the process of history was not based on archeological evidence but what they essentially believed in. In many cases distorting and manipulating or even forging the mute archaeological evidence through depiction of fire places as fire altars, waste pits as sacrificial pits in Harappan era sites and the imaginary reading of Sanskrit legends, was quoted in order to suit their pseudo-ideological and opportunistic interests.

    Between 1900-1300 BC the civilization declined and there were no more references to Meluhha (Mesopotamian name for Indus Valley Civilization landmass) in Mesopotamian finds. However, the people who made up this great civilization continued living in places like Mehrgarh, Harappa, Mohenjodaro and other settlements long after that.

    The legacy of Indus Valley Civilization lives on in present day Pakistan. Amongst some of the aspects that can still be traced to this legacy are the trade and commerce routes developed by the mentors of this great civilization. Ships from Meluhha regularly sailed from locations near modern day city of Karachi for the ports of Babylon. And they evidently made stops all along the way, as indicated through discovery of seals found in Oman, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain as well.

    The city of Peshawar lies on what is thought to have been one of their main overland trade routes. That route is now a major highway that constitutes the eastern approach to the Khyber Pass and links the northwestern Indus River Plain to the highlands of Afghanistan and Central Asia. An old branch of the route runs from Peshawar, south into rugged tribal territory, through the Pakistani cities of Kohat and Bannu and the foothills of the Suleiman Mountains down across the Gomal Plain to the early historical site of Rehman Dheri.

    After the decline of this civilization, the religion and language of which has still not been deciphered, at different times these people followed Vedic Hindu culture and traditions, also adopted Buddhism and in the end embraced Islam and are now overwhelmingly Muslim.

    The core spread of Indus Valley Civilization primarily lay in Pakistan. The three major cities and many other sites which represent the core of Indus Valley Civilization are all located in Pakistan. However, the Indians still refer to India as the “Home of Indus Valley Civilization,” which is surprising and indeed a misnomer. India needs to realign its history and should seek its identity in its own legacy instead of claiming something to which they do not belong to.

    It is the people of Pakistan who represent one of the oldest civilizations on earth. Indus Valley Civilization’s legacy is linked to Pakistan and this fact cannot be denied. The people of Pakistan thus rightly claim to be the true heirs of Indus Valley Civilization.


    About the author:
    Khan A. Sufyan

    Khan A. Sufyan is a security analyst on South Asia and has advised government, semi-government and private organizations and institutions on national and international security issues, as well as participating in number of national and international seminars and presented papers on various regional and global security issues.
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    The Indigenous People of Indus Valley Civilization Aka the Pakistanis are the real composer of Ancient Rig veda book Which was later included into Hinduism some centuries back.

    Hinduism was formed after the merger of Many South asian religion's including that of IVC.

    Rig veda text shows Monotheism unlike the modern Polytheist hinduism becasue Hinduism has alot of other Religion enteries aswell.

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    • #3
      I think the original Sindhis are the fathers of all Indian and Pakistani people since they are descended from Indus Civilization.
      [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

      All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

      God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
      God bless the man who invented drones.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
        The Indigenous People of Indus Valley Civilization Aka the Pakistanis are the real composer of Ancient Rig veda book Which was later included into Hinduism some centuries back.

        Hinduism was formed after the merger of Many South asian religion's including that of IVC.

        Rig veda text shows Monotheism unlike the modern Polytheist hinduism becasue Hinduism has alot of other Religion enteries aswell.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilization
        Please show me something about Monotheism in Rig Veda.

        This is very interesting.
        [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

        All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

        God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
        God bless the man who invented drones.

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        • #5
          "The historical, geographical and its people’s organic linkages with Arab, Persian, Turkic and South Central Asian populace also clearly differentiates it as a distinct and definite independent identity as compared to the rest of India."

          lol, these guys are forever trying to create some imaginary distinction from their Indian brothers
          Last edited by Adam; 03-13-2014, 03:28 PM.
          Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun
          I still remember those pieces of garbage asking US presidents, when they visit, stuff like "why can't we (India) teach them (Pakistan) a lesson?". Morr kus de ughaym.. f*cking indiot garbage. I f*cking hate them so f*cking much. Afkoonis jumping on indiot d*ck is f*cking annoying too.

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          • #6
            Per two nation theory , pakis do not own non-muslim history of subcontinent so they have no relevance with indus valley civilization.
            [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
              I think the original Sindhis are the fathers of all Indian and Pakistani people since they are descended from Indus Civilization.
              Sindhi and Punjabi both under the mehrgarh civilization of Balochistan are the ancestors of 120Million Pakistanis(Punjabis and Sindhis+saraiki) and 400-500Million Western(Gujarat,Maharasthra) and North India as a whole upto parts of UP.

              In short Pakistanis are the ancestors of More than 40% Indians
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                Per two nation theory , pakis do not own non-muslim history of subcontinent so they have no relevance with indus valley civilization.
                two nation theory is proven wrong with the creation of Bangladesh.

                The present Day geography of Pakistan always was a independent identity.

                All the indians east to the central india were in South india until the last 1500Years.This is the reason the central india has no history at all.It is also called the bare history region of India and accounts for 45% of Indian land mass.

                Everything that Fall under IVC belongs to pakistan.

                IVC was established along with the Indus river

                Indus river course

                93% in Pakistan
                5% In india
                2% In Tibet,China
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Adam View Post
                  "The historical, geographical and its people’s organic linkages with Arab, Persian, Turkic and South Central Asian populace also clearly differentiates it as a distinct and definite independent identity as compared to the rest of India."

                  lol, these guys are forever trying to create some imaginary distinction from their Indian brothers
                  Do you have any proof which confirms that the People of Indus valley civilization were Indians?

                  If not than useless contribution of yours is not required in this thread
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                  • #10
                    Considering that buddhism was the ancient religion of almost 60-70% Pakistanis.

                    The Govt should declare Buddhism as the state religion of Pakistan along with Islam.

                    We should not forgot what we were even after accepting Islam

                    Buddhist history and Proud
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                    • #11
                      What about Gandhara civilization which prevailed in today's Pashtunland.

                      There seems to be a difference between Indus Valley and Gandhara civilizations. Pashtuns were not part of Indus Valley civilization.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        Considering that buddhism was the ancient religion of almost 60-70% Pakistanis.

                        The Govt should declare Buddhism as the state religion of Pakistan along with Islam.

                        We should not forgot what we were even after accepting Islam

                        Buddhist history and Proud
                        Is there even any Buddhist in Pakistan?
                        [SIZE="6"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"] اگا بیکارین سوال جست کنی گورا ترا بیکارین جواب مل ات[/COLOR][/SIZE]

                        All I have to say to Afghani snakes is:

                        God bless Bush, Obama, USA, NATO, USSR, Osama, Taliban, Ahmed Shah Massoud, British, ISI, Northern Alliance and whoever else kills Afghans everyday.
                        God bless the man who invented drones.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                          Is there even any Buddhist in Pakistan?
                          Doesn't matter to this kid, he says alot of wacky things
                          Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun
                          I still remember those pieces of garbage asking US presidents, when they visit, stuff like "why can't we (India) teach them (Pakistan) a lesson?". Morr kus de ughaym.. f*cking indiot garbage. I f*cking hate them so f*cking much. Afkoonis jumping on indiot d*ck is f*cking annoying too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dila Teer Bija View Post
                            Is there even any Buddhist in Pakistan?
                            Buddhism origin is in South asia but they are hardly few millions in whole of South asia(Including India).
                            Buddhism failed in south asia because of strong presence of Vedic religion and rather spread into the South east asia.

                            But essentially all the Present day pakistani or atleast the majority are Buddhist by roots and lately converted to Islam.Including the pashtuns




                            Statue of Buddha in Swat,KPK

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                              What about Gandhara civilization which prevailed in today's Pashtunland.

                              There seems to be a difference between Indus Valley and Gandhara civilizations. Pashtuns were not part of Indus Valley civilization.
                              Gandhara can't be compared with IVC since IVC is much older.Even older the vedic civilization while Gandhara started later after vedic civilization

                              Though some sources consider both of them similar.Because Indus valley civilization People later accepted Buddhism and Gandhara region People were also buddhist.

                              NOTE:Buddhism expanded into Indus valley civilization region under the sword of Ashoka and Maurya Empire

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