Gay-friendly 'mosque' opens in Paris

[afghan]

BBC News - Gay-friendly 'mosque' opens in Paris

A prayer room described as Europe's first gay-friendly mosque is opening on the outskirts of Paris.

The new centre is run by Ludovic-Mohamed Zahed, a gay Islamic scholar, married to a gay man, and the founder of Homosexual Muslims of France.

Mr Zahed regularly attends the Grand Mosque in Paris, but says he wants to create a more "inclusive" place for gay, lesbian and transgender Muslims.

He says many of them felt uncomfortable praying in established mosques.

"Many gay men don't go to the mosque because they don't want to be recognised," says Mr Zahed.

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Ludovic-Mohamed Zahed
"They don't want to be ostracised because they wear earrings or because they're effeminate or they're transgender, something that's pretty obviously rejected in many mosques in France," he says.

[gadoonwal]

A westren agenda to be imposed on muslims accross the globe.
This is another attack on holy islam.
Now gays will lead muslims.
come on.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

LOL

I try not to get conspiratorial; but I would not be surprised that it was some type of french intelligence scam to stir up the Militant who are entrenched in France LOL

[Khilji]

LOL

I try not to get conspiratorial; but I would not be surprised that it was some type of french intelligence scam to stir up the Militant who are entrenched in France LOL

why are you laughing?you are a camel riding sufi ,maulana rumi lover by yourself you belong in this gay tempel little bacha berish

Bacha Bazi Gay Hazara Shia Farsi Cult Secterian Stuff - YouTube

crazy Sufi darwesh in kurdistan - YouTube.flv - YouTube

[DaZahroJaam.]

why are you laughing?you are a camel riding sufi ,maulana rumi lover by yourself you belong in this gay tempel little bacha berish

Bacha Bazi Gay Hazara Shia Farsi Cult Secterian Stuff - YouTube

crazy Sufi darwesh in kurdistan - YouTube.flv - YouTube

I am confused. Why are you offended??

[Khilji]

[MENTION=5800]DaZahroJaam.[/MENTION]

the sufi cultists are known for their homosexuality their love for bacha bazi this homosexuel mavlana rumi and this dude "RevolutionThroughReason" claims to be a half kandahari half yemeni sufi actually the perfect tempel for him and his warm brothers
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[DaZahroJaam.]

okay but I don't see the connection between what this bachabaz said and the way you replied. Are you suggesting that you are one or are a sympathizer of militants entrenched in France who might end up funding yourself roaming around or lured by this gay masjid??
Like, I don't understand why you are upset. What inspired you to speak the tryth against this bachabaz??

[Kushan Prince]

This story is about an year late, i opened a thread about about it last year.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/religion/34072-3.htm

[DaZahroJaam.]

@DaZahroJaam.

the sufi cultists are known for their homosexuality their love for bacha bazi this homosexuel mavlana rumi and this dude "RevolutionThroughReason" claims to be a half kandahari half yemeni sufi actually the perfect tempel for him and his warm brothers
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1
before deciding you have strong beliefs against a concept, understand it well. pedophilia and homosexuality are two very different things.

2
besides being a sufi, rumi was also a writer. writers can write from the point of view of anyone and anything. they can write to admire the beauty of men, women, cows or walls. that is what they are good at and what their profession is. they write about things that don't necessarily exist, therefore, it can not be used to determine their beliefs and or sexuality, unless they clearly specify it otherwise.

3
homosexuality is a very complex matter. you are not one and by the grace of allah, no one in your family seems to be one either. regardless of the complexity of the matter and the fact that this does not affect you personally in any way , you strongly believe it's not wrong and are doing everything in your power to make that be known.
islam has a very simple and straight forward rule about spreading lies and assumptions that could possibly affect someone's reputation in society, too. you have not seen rumi or revelutionthroughreason engage in such acts and as obvious as it is to you and i, you have taken it upon yourself to go ahead and very easily suggest that they are both not only homosexuals but also pedophiles.

why can't you apply the same dose of conviction and honesty in to practicing your religion in subjects that do affect and involve you directly? why can't you be a proper muslim and as passionately too in a case that involves some effort in to showing a little decency and understanding in your part?? should being a proper muslim become inconvient in matters that involve effort on one's own part?

[Khilji]

1
before deciding you have strong beliefs against a concept, understand it well. pedophilia and homosexuality are two very different things.

2
besides being a sufi, rumi was also a writer. writers can write from the point of view of anyone and anything. they can write to admire the beauty of men, women, cows or walls. that is what they are good at and what their profession is. they write about things that don't necessarily exist, therefore, it can not be used to determine their beliefs and or sexuality, unless they clearly specify it otherwise.

3
homosexuality is a very complex matter. you are not one and by the grace of allah, no one in your family seems to be one either. regardless of the complexity of the matter and the fact that this does not affect you personally in any way , you strongly believe it's not wrong and are doing everything in your power to make that be known.
islam has a very simple and straight forward rule about spreading lies and assumptions that could possibly affect someone's reputation in society, too. you have not seen rumi or revelutionthroughreason engage in such acts and as obvious as it is to you and i, you have taken it upon yourself to go ahead and very easily suggest that they are both not only homosexuals but also pedophiles.

why can't you apply the same dose of conviction and honesty in to practicing your religion in subjects that do affect and involve you directly? why can't you be a proper muslim and as passionately too in a case that involves some effort in to showing a little decency and understanding in your part?? should being a proper muslim become inconvient in matters that involve effort on one's own part?

for me is pedophilia homosexuality abnormal vulgaer not acceptabl of course is both everywhere in the world.my english is realy to bad to replay to all of your stuff but that is my view of these 2 things.it would be also great to stop this child marriage that is in my eyes to normal in the asia region specialy in afghanistan that has maybe nothing to do with this topic or your replay but thats to the pedophilia.rumi was a writer thats cool what ever he was he was a homosexuel sufi for the sufis is rumi a big shiat and rumi he even dont hide it and promotet it threw his poems that he was a proud gay etc so for me is a sufi nothing more than his beloved rumi. that rumi had a sexueal relationship with his students is well known.bacha bazi is the beloved practice of sufis not just in the north by the warlords.

[randolph85]

disgusting.

[EvilPakistani]

There's already a Gay mosque in san francisco and another in DC, in my opinion it's really disgusting, you can't be gay and muslim at the same time.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

crazy Sufi darwesh in kurdistan - YouTube.flv - YouTube

Daaaa fuqqqqq................................

what the hell is this?

[Catya Sher]

I agree with Randolph and "EvilPakistani".

Now, WHERE is this atrocity of a "mosque" in
San Francisco ?
I had not heard about its existence at all.

Do you have any details, such as which nationalities
mainly frequent the sordid place ? One cannot
call it a mosque.

Whoever said the Paris version is a French plot is probably exactly RIGHT !

And, good for you, Kushan Prince, for getting this -
TRULY TERRIFYING - scoop earlier than anyone here !

[Kushan Prince]

I agree with Randolph and "EvilPakistani".

Now, WHERE is this atrocity of a "mosque" in
San Francisco ?
I had not heard about its existence at all.

Do you have any details, such as which nationalities
mainly frequent the sordid place ? One cannot
call it a mosque.

Whoever said the Paris version is a French plot is probably exactly RIGHT !

And, good for you, Kushan Prince, for getting this -
TRULY TERRIFYING - scoop earlier than anyone here !

Hey all i'm saying is that its pointless to upload year old stories that hold no weight anymore