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  • #46
    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
    muslims also kill innocent muslims. infact number wise muslims have killed a lot more of their kind then Jews
    Are you on crack!??
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

    -Old Pashtun proverb




    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
      Are you on crack!??
      look at all the muslim armies, how many innocent muslims they have killed

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      • #48
        orthodox jews are against the Zionist Israeli army, they dont serve in the army. To them Israeli state is against Judaism

        Clearly explained why Orthodox Jews refuse to serve in IDF - YouTube

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        • #49
          ^Those guys are probably posing as jews so you never know.

          And why would you ask for our opinions on jews on a predominately muslim website, what kind of answers did you honestly expect? Do you have cahoots for a jewish girl or something?
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #50








            جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
            G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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            • #51
              Jews and Muslims have historically had a very good relationship, both culturally and economically. The recent problems in regards to Palestine/Israel are a land dispute- both Palestinians and Israeli have roots in that land.

              Anti-Semitism (Jewish) is largely a Western construct which has been cleverly pushed upon a largely naive Muslim political elite for the last 80 years. The West has used Israel's security as a means to forward their own economic interests, but have never been genuine about it. At the same time, Europeans have published such nonsense books as the Protocols of Zion, and these books have been flooded into Muslim nations. The reason is the same as for the Holocaust- to find a scapegoat to take the blame for the actions of what actually are modern day global criminal military industry complex trying to rob the resources of other non Western nations. This narrative has it that the Jews are to be blamed for everything from wars to disease and social degradation when the real perpetrators are the same people who committed genocide against the Aboriginals in Australia/New Zealand, Native Americans in the Americas, slavery, and nearly all other social ills of the last few hundred years. One is also supposed to believe that 6 million Jews did not die, but that it is a lie. Holocaust did not happen. Jews made it up. To engage in such nonsense is not productive to a peaceful world.

              As the Spanish Inquisition was overseeing the persecution of Jews, Ottoman Caliph Bayezid sent ships to the Spanish ports to receive the persecuted Jews, and give them sanctuary in Ottoman territory. The Ottoman Caliphs always gave sanctuary to Jews, giving them full citizenship.

              During the Holocaust, Bosnian Muslims helped hide Jews from the Germans. Billionare George Soros family was hidden by Bosnian Muslims. In return for that, he gave a billion dollars to help the Bosnians during the genocide perpetrated against them by Serb Christians.


              My opinion of the Jews is that they have struggled for thousands of years, survived the persecution in all forms whether it be the pogroms, Holocaust, etc. There is no way you can not admire it.

              If you are not for yourself, then who will be for you.
              Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 12-05-2013, 11:51 PM.

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              • #52
                Jews are good but there is something about them that they like gold coins.

                Gold coins and money.

                One of the most multi-billion dollar companies are owned by jews, even the porn industry is owned by them. Google, yahoo, facebook and even gamming consoles are owned by jews.

                They are money makers.

                That's exactly why Hitler disliked them, because he thought that they are extremely good in business and its because of them Germany suffered in WW1.

                He also didn't like them because they made fun of him when he was changing his clothes in public, a bunch of jews passed by and laughed at hitler's uni ball, because he lost his left ball in WW1 after being shot at it. The jews made fun of him (when he was not in power) and he felt their hate towards Germans since they were so rich and arrogant businessmen.
                جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                • #53
                  ^ from what I have learned, there are two types of Jews, the secular Zionist ones and the Orthodox religious ones. All those things you mentioned are usually owned by the Zionist ones, because they are not even religious to begin with.

                  Within Israel there is actually a huge struggle happening between Zionists and Orthodox. Israel in the future could even breakup from within because of this.

                  Zionism is a secular Jewish identity which is indeed very evil and it was created to basically carry out revenge against the world.

                  Orthodox Jews are very religious and stick to their faith/culture, not engaging in this nonsense. The world and muslim world should differentiate between these two types of jews

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    ^ from what I have learned, there are two types of Jews, the secular Zionist ones and the Orthodox religious ones. All those things you mentioned are usually owned by the Zionist ones, because they are not even religious to begin with.

                    Within Israel there is actually a huge struggle happening between Zionists and Orthodox. Israel in the future could even breakup from within because of this.

                    Zionism is a secular Jewish identity which is indeed very evil and it was created to basically carry out revenge against the world.

                    Orthodox Jews are very religious and stick to their faith/culture, not engaging in this nonsense. The world and muslim world should differentiate between these two types of jews
                    Just as how the world doesnt really differentiate between regular muslims and the al-qaida ones same goes for Orthodox and Zionists. No matter how much you try telling that Al-Qaeda or Taliban are not real muslims, the world will mostly judge you out the same way muslims judge jews as to be evil or enemies of Islam and Allah.

                    Zionist movement is supported by the United states because United states itself was founded on Judaic-Christian values and they believe in the messiah and they know all about Dajjal, bephomet, lucifer, illuminati and freemasonry more than us. The U.S. will always support Isreal because within U.S., the US constitution's big daddy's are jews. Jews control America, it's hard to believe since majority are Christian but the fact is that it's controlled by Multi-billion dollar strong and prominant Jewish figures who will always protect Isreal.

                    If you look closely you'll see that almost every American dollar bill has the Star of David which is the symbol of Judaism, they have this illuminati pyramid with an eye along with hundreds of hidden symbols in them. Google it.

                    The U.S. knows very well about Isreal and it's importance of the arrival of the Mahdi and the Dajjal, and that's the number 1 reason why they have occupied that tiny tiny Land to make sure that it's under their control before anyone's arrival (Dajjal or the Mahdi), they have alot more knowledge than us. They're holding that land ON PURPOSE.


                    Have you watched the Arrivals? If not, you're missing out a lot bro.
                    Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 12-06-2013, 12:46 AM.
                    جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                    G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                    • #55
                      ^ Yeah true. The americans/europeans have hijacked the Jewish and even Christian faith for their own purposes and evil plans, just like Al Qaida and other terrorists have hijacked Islam. They are all part of the evil world plan

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                      • #56
                        Never met any. I wouldn't hate someone just because he happens to be a Jew. But it's a different story if the person supports israel's occupation and the inhumane treatment of Palestinians.
                        Pakistan Zindabad.
                        Baz Washen Pakistan.
                        Zama Khaista Watan Pakistan.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Shah-i-Kot View Post
                          Jews and Muslims have historically had a very good relationship, both culturally and economically. The recent problems in regards to Palestine/Israel are a land dispute- both Palestinians and Israeli have roots in that land.

                          Anti-Semitism (Jewish) is largely a Western construct which has been cleverly pushed upon a largely naive Muslim political elite for the last 80 years. The West has used Israel's security as a means to forward their own economic interests, but have never been genuine about it. At the same time, Europeans have published such nonsense books as the Protocols of Zion, and these books have been flooded into Muslim nations. The reason is the same as for the Holocaust- to find a scapegoat to take the blame for the actions of what actually are modern day global criminal military industry complex trying to rob the resources of other non Western nations. This narrative has it that the Jews are to be blamed for everything from wars to disease and social degradation when the real perpetrators are the same people who committed genocide against the Aboriginals in Australia/New Zealand, Native Americans in the Americas, slavery, and nearly all other social ills of the last few hundred years. One is also supposed to believe that 6 million Jews did not die, but that it is a lie. Holocaust did not happen. Jews made it up. To engage in such nonsense is not productive to a peaceful world.

                          As the Spanish Inquisition was overseeing the persecution of Jews, Ottoman Caliph Bayezid sent ships to the Spanish ports to receive the persecuted Jews, and give them sanctuary in Ottoman territory. The Ottoman Caliphs always gave sanctuary to Jews, giving them full citizenship.

                          During the Holocaust, Bosnian Muslims helped hide Jews from the Germans. Billionare George Soros family was hidden by Bosnian Muslims. In return for that, he gave a billion dollars to help the Bosnians during the genocide perpetrated against them by Serb Christians.


                          My opinion of the Jews is that they have struggled for thousands of years, survived the persecution in all forms whether it be the pogroms, Holocaust, etc. There is no way you can not admire it.

                          If you are not for yourself, then who will be for you.
                          What do you think about these verses of the Holy Quran and wars of Muhamamd(p.b.u.h) on Jews. Do you think this is also a western concept.

                          Dont you think that those who befriend Jews are against Quran.

                          Also Quran claims that Jews will be always a failure but now Israel is a big success, the only developed secular democracy in Middle east while Arabs are ruled by dictators are backward and under developed!

                          I do not know why Quran is so harsh on poor Jews. Read the following and you will feel surprised that Quran is talking in such a harsh tone

                          References to Jews in the Koran | Jewish Virtual Library

                          Few examples.

                          [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

                          [5.41] O Apostle! let not those grieve you who strive together in hastening to unbelief from among those who say with their mouths: We believe, and their hearts do not believe, and from among those who are Jews; they are listeners for the sake of a lie, listeners for another people who have not come to you; they alter the words from their places, saying: If you are given this, take it, and if you are not given this, be cautious; and as for him whose temptation Allah desires, you cannot control anything for him with Allah. Those are they for whom Allah does not desire that He should purify their hearts; they shall have disgrace in this world, and they shall have a grievous chastisement in the hereafter.

                          [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

                          [5:57] O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among those who were given the Book before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.

                          [5.60] Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.


                          [5.64] And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                            [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
                            This verse is not for Jews but for everyone that wages war on the Prophet (saw) and Allah. What's so harsh in this? This was revealed to the Prophet (saw) at his time and Allah ordered the Muslims that if someone tried to impose harm on you or either on the Rasool (saw) you must respond back by fighting them.

                            If someone enters your hosue and puts a gun on your childs head and rapes your wife infront of you, what would you do?

                            Would you rather:

                            1) Invite him to a tea-party

                            or

                            2) Beat the shiit out of him?

                            It's common sense, it's not really harsh. If someone tries to harm you, you will respond back in self defence, there is nothing harsh in this, read the verse again it says "Those who", it doesnt say anywhere to pick a random jew and cut his head off and watch his blood flow and explode fire works to celebrate it.

                            Don't be a nutjob bro.
                            جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                            G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                            • #59
                              I'm generally fond of Jews but I am against Zionism.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #60
                                Like a Saudi mufti once said;

                                "A Jew can drown in the spit of an Arab."
                                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                                -Old Pashtun proverb




                                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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